[FFG] Star Wars: Legion (Miniatures Game)

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**judgedoug**

Why is it that no one in the universe knows how to focus a camera or hold their hands steady to take pictures?

**Manchu**

Storm Trooper Spec Weapons:

- bazooka
- LMG

Rebel Spec Weapons:

- gatling gun
- sniper rifle?
- light AT weapon?

**deleted20250424**

OK, someone snag it out of the case and run!

Although, they look like the IA minis so far in those pics.

**Aeneades**

A lot of the sculpts are from IA but with some variations. I wonder if they rescaled them slightly to avoid people using IA models.

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**Manchu**

Aeneades wrote:
Cards for Vader and Storm Troops on this twitter feed 1

https://mobile.twitter.com/teamcovenant

Can someone please post pics here for the workblocked?

**deleted20250424**

Found a link to some pics.

http://cannotgetyourshipout.blogspot.com/2017/08/gencon-stuff-and-star-wars-legion.html

**infinite_array**

Giving Stormtroopers "Precise" as an ability had to get some chuckles in the office.

**Arbitrator**

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/8/18/star-wars-legion/

The Stormtroopers look MUCH better without the low quality photo.

**Tamereth**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Eumerin wrote:
Not really. The equipment "exists", and has within the setting for some time. West End Games did an excellent job of filling out the various details of the setting when they had the RPG license.
So, like I said, they made crap up because the Rebels don't have any ground forces in the movies outside of infantry and Snowspeeders. Just like Force Commander had to (look how many 'first appearance' notes are next to the vehicle types; often they are the only appearance as well), and Galactic Battlegrounds and Empire at War.

Even one of my fav SW games of all time, Rebellion (had a different name in the UK), had to invent most of the Rebel ship types because they had nothing to match the existing Empire units.

The Clone Wars at least give us two fleshed out armies.

This is entily the issue, the rebels never had a ground army that we saw. The preview of the starter already includes something for them that's not film canon. The clone wars would make so much more sense for this.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Filing under M for 'Meh'

**Manchu**

on the table!

**deleted20250424**

If they were multi-part kits and not the IA+ versions, I'd be much more hyped.

I'll keep an eye on it going forward, but interest level is slowly dropping.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Aeneades wrote:
A lot of the sculpts are from IA but with some variations. I wonder if they rescaled them slightly to avoid people using IA models.

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BLEGH... FFG's proprietary dice fetish continues... "What's your Luke's damage profile? Oh, black-black-red"....

**Manchu**

OP updated with FFG announcement info!

**Azreal13**

Oh dear.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

So this is skirmish level..
Le sigh

**judgedoug**

Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

**Manchu**

This takes me back to how I felt when X-Wing was released. The prequels had really sapped me of SW enthusiasm but X-Wing brought me back to that excitement of being a kid playing with SW toys. Legion takes me right back again, now to the days of looking at the WEG miniatures game advertisments, knowing I would never be able to play those games. Ah but I will be playing this one!

**deleted20250424**

Yes, legitimate reasons like; game specific dice, soft miniatures, goofy bases, or the fact that game ALREADY EXISTS!!!!

are all terrible reasons to pass on it, now that they've seen it.

This is looking like a literal Imperial Assault Skirmish 2.0 (Now with twice as many dudes!) game.

I'm mostly getting turned off by the minis.

**Azreal13**

judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

The issue is that FFG essentially already make this game, and have done for several years. Unless somehow moving from tiles and squares to inches and tabletops radically changes people's attitudes, irrespective of any changes in mechanics, you've been able to play a one on one Star Wars battle game of this scale and similar scope for some time and, IME at least, nobody is. So unless something emerges that really changes the playing field, I just can't see much to get excited about.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Yeah... that preview article is grinding my enthusiasm to a screaming halt... proprietary dice crap, unit upgrades cards will be all over the place, weird movement tools instead of the simple and proven tape-measure....

... but as others have said, my FB feed is exploding with people who hate miniatures, begging for a chance to pre-order this. Good or not, its going to be HUGE.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Well, DAKKA being a wargamer forum, has a more picky audience (which is into wargames, not just boardgames), so people, while already being engaged with other wargames, expect higher standards to pull them over to a yet another wargame.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Models are meh at best.

Upgrade cards, forcing you to keep buying, even units you don't want, just to keep on top of the game.

Proprietary dice.

Already something not from the films.

Vehicles likely to be pricey, when FFG aren't exactly cheap.

It's a pass from me.

**Manchu**

Crossover products like this never fail to disappoint miniatures enthusiasts.

No fear - the game will do crazy business and probably bring more people to miniatures gaming than any product since (no coincidence) X-Wing.

**Arbitrator**

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Well, DAKKA being a wargamer forum, has a more picky audience (which is into wargames, not just boardgames), so people, while already being engaged with other wargames, expect higher standards to pull them over to a yet another wargame.

I mean to be honest, Games Workshop could put anthrax in every newly made box of models and about 50% of this board would defend it.

**Wonderwolf**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Models are meh at best.

Upgrade cards, forcing you to keep buying, even units you don't want, just to keep on top of the game.

Proprietary dice.

Already something not from the films.

Vehicles likely to be pricey, when FFG aren't exactly cheap.

It's a pass from me.

Yeah. This. Upgrade cards already in the preview. Here comes FFG's "do you have 3 identical heavy blaster upgrade cards from three different expansions to field them?" and "Luke's much better Lightsaber 2.0 is really what you want .. available only in the bounty hunter expansion".

Movement tools, stupid dice, etc..

I am out.

**Azreal13**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Models are meh at best.

Upgrade cards, forcing you to keep buying, even units you don't want, just to keep on top of the game.

Proprietary dice.

Already something not from the films.

Vehicles likely to be pricey, when FFG aren't exactly cheap.

It's a pass from me.

It was always going to be a pass from you, be honest.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

I wonder how will they deal with AT-ATs, snowspeeders, ect...
Battle at Hoth being (probs) the most loved one.
We can definatly expect AT-STs..

**Manchu**

Azreal13 wrote:
It was always going to be a pass from you, be honest.

Can be said for so, so many posters who will make sure to let us know anyhow. This is why I made that "face the facts" post.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Azreal13 wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
judgedoug wrote:
Star Wars miniatures game - will make a stupid amount of money. X-Wing and Armada combined, and then some. Everyone wants to play Darth Vader on the table.

but queue Dakka standard response to ANY announcement: "well if it was only some very specific XYZ I would have spent my life savings on it, but now I'll have to give it a pass"

Models are meh at best.

Upgrade cards, forcing you to keep buying, even units you don't want, just to keep on top of the game.

Proprietary dice.

Already something not from the films.

Vehicles likely to be pricey, when FFG aren't exactly cheap.

It's a pass from me.

It was always going to be a pass from you, be honest.

Not at all.

I throughly enjoyed the early days of X-Wing. The game is solid, just a shame about the constant need to buy more and more ship Keep OP With the Cardashians (do you see what I Did There? Awfully witty of me).

This seems to be going down the same route already, so I shan't be fooled twice.