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News coming from GW this weekend. Cannot wait.

I reaaaaally hope they'll announce the release date for out codex this weekend. I'm also suspecting that we'll see more new units or maybe some rule sneek peeks.

New GSC reveals.



Images are titled, Sanctus, Clamavus, Locus, and Magus, respectively.

I think that is unit names, not chapter tactics, as the girl is definitely a Magus.



We've seen the rest of the (non-terrain) models, though the Gunslinger has been given a unit name as well, the Kelermorph, and the moonbuggy got a name on the image title "Wolf Quad". For a second I thought that drill was gonna be some sort of mining Lord of War as was suggested here just recently, which would have been awesome.







My big takeaways from all this from a gameplay perspective:

this looks like the addition of FOUR new characters to the army. It's possible Kelermorph is an elite, but even so, our HQ slot is already FLOODED with key options, so I think this might make it even harder to pick which ones.

The Locus is almost DEFINITELY Cult of The Bladed Cog, and while we could assume that we were getting chapter tactics of some sort, this one in particular implies that ADMECH ALLIES MAY BE OPENED UP FOR GSC, maybe even just for this cult choice specifically, which could be incredible.

It also makes me think none of the GSC leaks were at all true, because not only have we famously been a target for fake leaks before, we're seeing about 6-7 new units here being added to the dex and not one of them was mentioned in the leaks which were otherwise pretty in depth.

I guess in a world of 8~ Primaris Lieutenants its not impossible - but explicitly having two Magus models with the same equipment seems kind of redundant. Could she be a special character? I suspect I am reaching.

I also agree that having all these as HQs seems a bit impractical, so I wouldn't be surprised if some were elites choices instead. Or there is some sort of special rule so they don't take up slots. Maybe they come together in a unit like a command squad - since wasn't there a guy with a table as well?

In any case they look great except the Sanctus, which I feel looks stupid. Its just a guy with some strange goggles and a knife. They had to stick a familiar on the model because it doesn't otherwise tie in with the rest.

 SHUPPET wrote:
It also makes me think none of the GSC leaks were at all true, because not only have we famously been a target for fake leaks before, we're seeing about 6-7 new units here being added to the dex and not one of them was mentioned in the leaks which were otherwise pretty in depth.

At the very least the one about the reduced brood brothers rule was fake, dude made it as an example of how easy the things were to fake and people then ran with it to other places without context.

yeah, guy with the table, this guy was spotted too. Looks like an apothecary type:


agreed, sanctus looks dumb. If he ends up being any good I'll just be using this guy:

Huh, so many new characters! I am almost certain that at least some of them will be "mini characters" in the elite section, instead of being all HQ choices (look at the Death Guard release. They too have many characters but those are divided into HQs and Elites).

They all look great. I love the apothecary, Locus and the female Magus. The Assassin looks odd. But to be honest "a guy with strange googles and a knife" fits the GSC thematicaly. Their assassins should have some neat gimmicks but not the best gear since all their ressources are looted etc. Or just convert the Dark Elf Assassin.

I also hope they end up as Elites. It's unlikely they're all worth using, but I cannot contain my excitement.

She can corrupt my genes any time. Er...

This model might look quite nice if the familiar is repositioned. I'd probably shift it to an entirely separate base.

Might be tempting to do a face swap too.

I'd honestly probably remove the familiar entirely. If it can't fit on the base properly it shouldn't even be there.

See what I mean...

To be fair if his rules were like WHFB assassins, so say you could swap him into a neophyte squad after charging/being charged then that could potentially be interesting.

The goggles are putting me off though.

No goggles...

this model is getting better by the post. Can someone give him a more obviously Genestealer face now (with no goggles)?

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I dunno, I think the goggles make him look very unique, and the familiar is so cute!

I love of the playstyle is a lot of mooks and cool characters. Itw will be unique.

Guys don't forget some armies get characters that don't eat force org slots. It's entirely possible that some of the advisors or whatever you want to call them will have a battlefield designation but not count toward filling them. This can be good and bad depending on how you designing armies.

I would guess a multiple of these are named characters for different cults. The assassin, magus, locus and gunslinger all seem pretty unique. I'd wager only the medic, vox caster dude and nexos are generic elite slot editions. Could be wrong though.

Imperial Guard have officers in elite slots. I am sure GSC could too.

 Fifty wrote:
Imperial Guard have officers in elite slots. I am sure GSC could too.

It's confirmed that all new characters are in the Elite slot

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Fifty wrote:
Imperial Guard have officers in elite slots. I am sure GSC could too.

It's confirmed that all new characters are in the Elite slot

Source?

 luke1705 wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Fifty wrote:
Imperial Guard have officers in elite slots. I am sure GSC could too.

It's confirmed that all new characters are in the Elite slot

Source?

It isn't "CONFIRMED!" confirmed but purportedly from the Open Day all that were shown at the Open Day barring the Magus(which is just an alternate build) and the Jackal Alphus(the dirtbike sniper) are Elites.

Jackal Alphus is purportedly an HQ as well as the Magus remaining in that slot.

Question about rules, does Bestial Vigour lower the damage from Smites also?

 SHUPPET wrote:


Images are titled, Sanctus, Clamavus, Locus, and Magus, respectively.

I think that is unit names, not chapter tactics, as the girl is definitely a Magus.

We've seen the rest of the (non-terrain) models, though the Gunslinger has been given a unit name as well, the Kelermorph, and the moonbuggy got a name on the image title "Wolf Quad".

Excellent! Added to the original post under upcoming. Once we know for sure where the units go (though we can take some educated guesses for the non-character options) I'll move them to the correct places in preparation for the codex thread.

I find it interesting they are making a separate release Magus, though it makes sense. Most GSC lists up to this point have been making fairly heavy use of them, so it adds an alternate sculpt to mix things up a bit and presumably a cheaper alternative than buying 3 Brood Coven boxes (maybe). Here's hoping they don't do away with the brood coven box anytime soon though, I do like the sculpts within.

 SHUPPET wrote:

this looks like the addition of FOUR new characters to the army. It's possible Kelermorph is an elite, but even so, our HQ slot is already FLOODED with key options, so I think this might make it even harder to pick which ones.

I think the Kelermorph is probably going to be an HQ, as most of the commanders in Kill Team are (main exception is Death Guard using their elite characters, but their actual HQ models would probably be too tough for most factions to deal with in the kill team setting). Still, having an abundance of HQ models isn't the worst problem to have (certainly compared to the opposite - see poor Admech, Drukhari, and Sisters).

I do think the Neophyte-based ones might (or likely will) end up as Elite choices though. Neophytes in the fluff aren't held in the same regard as the hybrids that overtly show Tyrannic influences. Still, we have two solid Elite options already and one that hopefully will be seeing a buff with the codex, so that slot is going to be fairly heavily contested as well.

 SHUPPET wrote:

The Locus is almost DEFINITELY Cult of The Bladed Cog, and while we could assume that we were getting chapter tactics of some sort, this one in particular implies that ADMECH ALLIES MAY BE OPENED UP FOR GSC, maybe even just for this cult choice specifically, which could be incredible.

Unfortunately, I think it is done up in the standard Cult of the Four Armed Emperor scheme with added purple robes. The Bladed Cog color scheme has red hazard suits with teal-blue cloth. (see here) while the Locus has visible gray shoulder pads.

Also worth noting, the Bladed Cog HATES admech with a passion as their primary oppressors. The 7th edition codex painted them as being more tech-savvy than your average cult due to being headquartered on a forge world, but there isn't anything to suggest they have access to Mechanicus war material (though they do apparently steal Russes directly off the production line).

Also a car/van version of the Goliath was in the preview video, which might be a Venom equivalent.

Araablane wrote:
Question about rules, does Bestial Vigour lower the damage from Smites also?

No, because mortal wounds are dealt one at a time for 1 damage each. The 5+ to negate a wound still works however. Also in the case of Smite remember the Spiritual Leader ability on the Magus if you happen to have one nearby as it allows the squad to attempt a deny itself rather than having to burn the Magus'
deny attempt.

Tastyfish wrote:
Also a car/van version of the Goliath was in the preview video, which might be a Venom equivalent.

I saw that, though if it is indeed a new vehicle I'd wager it is something closer to the new Ork Buggies than a Venom (Venom's 6-seater transport role is kinda filled by Rockgrinders at the moment). Paired with the Jackals I have to wonder if GW isn't planning a GSC expansion for the Speed Freaks game, since each player has what amounts to a unit of bikes and 1 vehicle.

Also a car/van version of the Goliath was in the preview video, which might be a Venom equivalent.

I'm pretty sure that our new toy will be more of the liking of a Battlewagon: check the proportions:



And:



The Neophytes looks tiny on the new one. So there may be some kind of artistic licence with the proportions, but i'm pretty sure this thing is at least as big as the Goliath, and bigger would not surprise me. Futhermore, i think the Goliath is doing well enough in the "light vehicle"category, and that we need way more some kind of big transport.

It also might be nothing, and is just a Goliath.

The guy drew the Aberrants behind the doctor model and they look like Carnifexes.

Please put spoiler tags on the pictures, they are a bit too big.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
It also might be nothing, and is just a Goliath.

The guy drew the Aberrants behind the doctor model and they look like Carnifexes.

I think those are more likely purestrains if anything. Aberrants don't have carapaces at all on their backs apart from the Hypermorph and none of them have 4 arms.

Granted, those could be something related to the Cult of the Twisted Helix. They got an icon in the 7th edition codex and a bit of fluff but never had a color scheme (Pauper Princes were similar actually - had an icon and color scheme but minimal fluff). Their specialty was genetic manipulation owing to being in control of what amounted to a pharmacy world, with lots of Aberrants and Metamorphs resulting from their tinkering. Making some proto-fex using DNA harvested from Purestrains isn't outside the realm of possibility.