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I really want to get into this but am having trouble with the price, particular it I need the expansion to play it with anything other than card board terrain. Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I am however loving the Goliath stuff. Are we to assume that Genestealer Cults will be in this? That would be a strong motivation for me to commit.

 jake wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
Seems like it's normally 10am or so on Saturday (maybe 9am now that the time changed?) for US pre-orders to open up.

Thanks. I guess I'm staying up.

Necromunda is up on order on GW's page.

Rules summary sheet is on the game website. Looks very, very good. A whole bunch of clearly defined actions, down to pushing a button on a console or opening a door. Impressed.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Rules summary sheet is on the game website. Looks very, very good. A whole bunch of clearly defined actions, down to pushing a button on a console or opening a door. Impressed.

I just want to fire flamers through ductways. Those pesky Genestealer Cultists and Ratskins are gonna get roasted!

 Strombones wrote:
Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

 Strombones wrote:
I really want to get into this but am having trouble with the price, particular it I need the expansion to play it with anything other than card board terrain. Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I am however loving the Goliath stuff. Are we to assume that Genestealer Cults will be in this? That would be a strong motivation for me to commit.

Andy Hoare said on WHTV that there’s a very good chance for Genestealer Cults. They already have fitting models after all.

I don't get why anyone would want to buy the pre-orders collection.

Doesn't it contain only replicas of stuff which is already included in the base game box?

If I buy the Underhive box + Gang Wars, what am I missing?

Bluebeard wrote:
If I buy the Underhive box + Gang Wars, what am I missing?

As far as I know, the two packs of gang cards would be all you are missing

 Strombones wrote:
I really want to get into this but am having trouble with the price, particular it I need the expansion to play it with anything other than card board terrain. Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I am however loving the Goliath stuff. Are we to assume that Genestealer Cults will be in this? That would be a strong motivation for me to commit.

Here are 3 options for Genestealer Cults:

1) Wait for official rules, play them fully legal.
2) Wait for (or create yourself) fan-made rules (this has already been done 15 years ago with previous versions)
3) Use Genestealer Cults models with the rules of some other gang

By all the 40k/GW models out there, Genestealer Cultists and Chaos Cultists are superb for Necromunda. There are almost no other autopistols, autoguns and heavy stubbers out there!

Yeah good point on the house rules. It doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to do, particularly considering the guys I play with play lots of Homebrew rules anyhow.

Who knows, maybe the Escher stuff will grow on me. Could always sell it too. Ok think I'll commit.

Skyven wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

I don´t understand the utter disdain for a type of female footwear. They are just kinky shoes and won´t harm you in any way.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Skyven wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

I don´t understand the utter disdain for a type of female footwear. They are just kinky shoes and won´t harm you in any way.

What are you saying about FEMALE footwear? I have here pics of a classic Goliath Gang that proves you wrong:

Baxx wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
I really want to get into this but am having trouble with the price, particular it I need the expansion to play it with anything other than card board terrain. Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I am however loving the Goliath stuff. Are we to assume that Genestealer Cults will be in this? That would be a strong motivation for me to commit.

Here are 3 options for Genestealer Cults:

1) Wait for official rules, play them fully legal.
2) Wait for (or create yourself) fan-made rules (this has already been done 15 years ago with previous versions)
3) Use Genestealer Cults models with the rules of some other gang

By all the 40k/GW models out there, Genestealer Cultists and Chaos Cultists are superb for Necromunda. There are almost no other autopistols, autoguns and heavy stubbers out there!

From the leeked tradeing post page Heavy Stubbers aren't avilable in the current rules. The only "generic" heavy/special weapons we get are Grenade Launchers and the plasma pistol if you count that.

Skyven wrote:

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

I just did the opposite; I converted such heeled boots for one of my old Escher models.

Oh, this is nice; Leaders and Champions have a Nerve roll bubble (12" for leaders, 6" for champs) where other fighters auto-pass, but only if the leader/champ passes first. Better still, a champion can use the boss's bubble themselves! So with proper positioning and a decent Cool on your leader, you can cover most of the board and keep the gang going even if you technically bottle it…

I await the new cult of the Redemption to dive in.

 Galas wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

Skyven wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

I don´t understand the utter disdain for a type of female footwear. They are just kinky shoes and won´t harm you in any way.

What are you saying about FEMALE footwear? I have here pics of a classic Goliath Gang that proves you wrong:

Spoiler:

Hmm, not enough roided muscle on these dudettes to pass for Goliaths. I guess you made a mistake there. Those people in the pic are going to be the new AOS Daemonettes.

Except for the high heals and the Gang War book only containing so much content I think this is a pretty excellent release all round.

Wish there was just a rules bundle.

Prordered at the local store. They had their prerelease copy out last night. Models look pretty sweet, boards are nice. Looking forward to mashing the models into the collection. Diggas, =][= goons/gals, pit slaves. Will see about Gang War later.

 youwashock wrote:
Prordered at the local store. They had their prerelease copy out last night. Models look pretty sweet, boards are nice. Looking forward to mashing the models into the collection. Diggas, =][= goons/gals, pit slaves. Will see about Gang War later.

Aye. I went for the box and a load of terrain I'd been planning to buy regardless as the models are solid and have many uses, but I'm ignoring the rules stuff until something approaching a whole functional game is available not the stripped-down "vertical slice" version they're asking money for atm.

 Yodhrin wrote:
...but I'm ignoring the rules stuff until something approaching a whole functional game is available not the stripped-down "vertical slice" version they're asking money for atm.

That would be in the Gang War book which is available at the same time.

 Breotan wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
...but I'm ignoring the rules stuff until something approaching a whole functional game is available not the stripped-down "vertical slice" version they're asking money for atm.

That would be in the Gang War book which is available at the same time.

Except, as I and numerous other have already gone over in this thread, Gang War is missing big chunks of stuff that should be in it. If they put out all the missing stuff next weekend, I'll buy the rest of the rules then, but I won't pay for a product that's had core content stripped out because of GW's irrational paranoia about bitz sellers or whatever nonsense is motivating them.

Seriously, GW are trying to sell people a book of rules in the 40K setting that doesn't include fething chainswords and folk are defending that. This really is the worst timeline.

Hm, many good things are apparent in the Advanced rules section; loot crates can be busted open and maybe turn into ammo caches, which can be used mid game to add 2 to your ammo rolls and allow you to reload scarse trait weapons.

Booby traps can be deactivated (or set off prematurely) by shooting them if you spot them, of course.

You can run out of ammo for a pistol used in close combat (finally!) plus you max out at 1 pistol shot per close combat…

The general design is a massive improvement too; new toys generally come with their own unique special action type which slots easily into the established action economy so the whole system is pretty simple and slick but also highly detailed and easy to extend.

 Eldarain wrote:
Wish there was just a rules bundle.

+1. I imagine it will arrive eventually but not yet as they know some people will buy the box set mainly just to get the rules.

Has anyone seen the new models side by side with the old?

I just worry with the the size of new AoS/40k models that the new Necromunda models will make my old metal necromunda models look like hobbits.

They look as tiny as all second ed stuff looks compared to the modern stuff.

I'd love to see a pic of the new models next to a cadian, skitarii or genestealer cultist.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Skyven wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
Also I strongly dislike the Escher high heel thing, but hey I suppose it is a integral part of their look.

I have every intention of remodelling the feet to remove the high heels...

I don´t understand the utter disdain for a type of female footwear. They are just kinky shoes and won´t harm you in any way.

I have no issue with combat heels I play Nomads in infinity but these are just bad they throw the look of the whole model off.
They screw the proportions up when looking at he model from the front and look like hooves, which is probably a good copy of Blanche's scribbles.

Well here's a Cadian and Cultist next to my version of the same Leader spoilered in my previous post (apologies for the various stages of unpaintedness!) so you can get an idea