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 zedmeister wrote:
Squats returning? Oh yes!

Slam sector is a go!

Hell yea

I feel like I'm being trolled, but will definitely get any squats that come out. Eldar on imperial worlds were a thing in the fluff with Shafers last chancers, as one on the convicts got busted for joy riding an eldar diplomats personal transport.

 Galas wrote:
If they didn't only copy pasted it, but edited it, then that means they have plans to that part of the fluff.

I guess (they also changed 'a special spire' to 'a spire specificially', but well...). When looking at the setting video you can see some hives only mentioned in the Confrontation articles (and the Space Marine novel).

Like 'The Skull':

No one knows what fearful things have made their home amid the ruins, and even the nomads and scavvies fear to go near them.

 Galas wrote:
If they didn't only copy pasted it, but edited it, then that means they have plans to that part of the fluff.

Could still very well be an oversight/typo. That said, people are using the new airborne Dwarves for 40K...

T

I'm sure FW will be releasing a "Ratling Miner" hired gun at some point. It was mentioned in the White Dwarf that they are doing quite a few new hired guns

I have a feeling Necromunda will be bringing 20+ years of nostalgia up to date with an almighty bang!

Beastmen?

SQUATS!?

Oh my...

So will SWA and Necromunda be compatible?? or easy to convert??

Both start with teams of 1000 points and more or less everything matches up...

A las gun used by imperial guard will work differently from a ganger's las gun so that works out

Just curious about the the legacy rules will say..

 Genoside07 wrote:
So will SWA and Necromunda be compatible?? or easy to convert??

Both start with teams of 1000 points and more or less everything matches up...

A las gun used by imperial guard will work differently from a ganger's las gun so that works out

Just curious about the the legacy rules will say..

Yes and No, the rule for the weapon can be converted based on their Necromunda and 8th profile.

Thing is most of the Killteam from SWA are overkill when you pit them against a Ganger team. Bolt gun/pistol and carapace armor which is a low/mid tier item in SWA is a rare collectible in Necromunda. Thing like Power Armor/ Holosuit which is common equipment for killteam is straight up relic/artefact collectible in Necromunda. Not to mention lots of "common" gun like Tau carbine, Necron blaster or Skitarii rifle that can rip any ganger to shreds.


The only team that fit in Necromunda setting is GSC team. Other team should stick to where they belong. Altho you could make a SW : Underhive with only killteam fighting eachother, in the end Harlequin and Nid will still wipe the floor with everyone

I don't think the "power" of SWA is anything near Necromunda.

Yeah, Goliaths now are as big as Space Marines, but... yeah. They are both totally different "feels".

Goliath just used lot of roid to get big. they're no match for the multi-organ gen-hanced mutant clad in Power armor.

Oh boy, my local sister player is going to bust a gasket.

I for one would love a plastic Squat Gang, it'd be great for special Guard Squads/Genecult customization.

In terms of efficiency, we may actually see Squats and Beastmen get gangs in time. Because both can be fielded as Abhuman Helots in one of the HH lists.

As beautiful as everything looks, why a Beastman as the first side release? That's fairly self-indulgent on the studio/sculptor's part when more logical, longed-for things could have been done first. Let's hope this isn't like Moffat Doctor Who, when an uber-fan takes the reigns and everyone is hopeful, but their bizarre, over-thought, under-clever head-canon becomes the new actual canon... Like, release the classic gangs before going off piste, surely?

C'mon chaps, get agrip.

One (Copy/Paste) line doesn't make a line of Squats iminent or even likely. I mean Necromunda went 20 odd years without a Squat gang release. I for one won't get my hopes too high.

But the new format might make for a decent angle for an Engineer or Prospector...

Sooo did I miss the window for the exclusive card? I can't see any reference to it on the UK store =/

zamerion wrote:
Squats and eldars in necromunda!! (thanks to battle bunnies)

That is some ancient fluff, interesting if they bring that back but that will go against GW's "The Squats never existed" policy.

That is some ancient fluff, interesting if they bring that back but that will go against GW's "The Squats never existed" policy.

Which is nonsense - they exist in the fluff sections of both 7th and 8ed rulebooks - same as cat people and various other abhumans.

The only team that fit in Necromunda setting is GSC team. Other team should stick to where they belong. Altho you could make a SW : Underhive with only killteam fighting eachother, in the end Harlequin and Nid will still wipe the floor with everyone

Yes and no - you can make high end gangs that can work in the underhive - see Spyers - they just have to work differently to normal gangs.

You can also have kill team sweeps (Guard, Marines, Arbites, Sisters), Inquisition probes, hive purges and the like as special scenarios where the gangs just try to survive and escape the area before the superior forces kill them.

Oh my mistake, I thought they were dead and done. Been out of the hobby for quite a while now.

Did a whole set of rules for Eldar in the Underhive. Worked really well. Did Tau as well. Difficult to justify, but still.

Sorry for the little offtopic, but, Isn't strange that we don't know what's new this week?

No next week article on warhammer community, no prices filtered by retailers..

Maybe made to order week?

Mate ran an Eldar Ranger gang, using the profiles in the Outlanders book.

Didn't get many in his gang, and they seemed to be captured with alarming regularity, but man they were a force to be reckoned with.

zamerion wrote:
Sorry for the little offtopic, but, Isn't strange that we don't know what's new this week?

No next week article on warhammer community, no prices filtered by retailers..

Maybe made to order week?

They need to prepare for all the preorder of Necromunda.

My FLGS was called by his GW rep yesterday to put in final orders for Necromunda next week. He was a bit pushy as the store only wanted six copies (he's not buying into hype as big any more after the previous boxed games are all still on his shelves, even Shadespire, while played, still packs his shelves) and none of the bundles on offer, as they don't really offer anything extra, not unless you order a ton of boxed sets and the like.

IIRC if you order sixteen boxed sets or a bunch of other bundles you'd get holographic gang leader cards or something.

Yaaaaaaaay..

It was a bit worrying to hear him phone in his order and realise that most of the stuff is going to be picked up by me soon.

TheTrueMooseman wrote:
Sooo did I miss the window for the exclusive card? I can't see any reference to it on the UK store =/

Choose the box set, and the card is in the shopping basket. I tried it this morning.

timd wrote:
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Whoa, they actually mentioned "Squats"? Very strange, since they are not supposed to exist with that name any more.

T

They were mentioned with that name in 6th edition 40k (and possibly 7th and 8th, too).


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 Breotan wrote:
Looks like they're using this new edition to bring things back more in line with the old Rogue Trader stuff.

Andy Hoare has already said he's been raiding the vaults for background material for this new edition (for example, that Beastman's plasma pistol - he apparently dug out old casts of the Adventurers range to come up with that design). There's Hive Worlds mentioned in the new edition that have only previously been mentioned in the rules booklet included in the Citi-Block floor plans set for Rogue Trader and the Judge Dredd RPG (which contain the very first gang skirmish rules - even before Confrontation).

Rogue Trader indeed Andy H's posts on the Oldhammer forum

I'm The product manager for the Necromunda release, and I'm as much as an Oldhammerer as anyone on this board, having started the Tales from the Maelstrom blog with Gadge and others back around 2006. I've made the new edition as oldhammer friendly as possible and a couple of people from this very forum have playtested it, so I truly hope it's received in that spirit

http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=89327#p89327

http://forum.oldhammer.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=89372#p89372

http://talesfromthemaelstrom.blogspot.com/

Nice spot, not been to that forum for a while.

Also, nice comment:

Specialist Games products are entirely aimed at veterans mate

... move along, noting to see here.

I think old Grognard's everywhere need to embrace if not Necromunda the game, Necromunda the miniature's range.

Remember, Specialist Games may have better funding these days (that much is obvious. Just compare the production values!), but stuff has to sell if we're to get more.

Now I'm not arguing those fans of Oldhammer should slavishly buy everything produced for Necromunda. But, if something even vaguely tickles your fancy, do see if you can fit it into your budget.

If GW 'proper' sees us going mental for stuff like Beastmen, Squats and other oddities of yesteryear, it's more likely we'll see more of the same coming in.

And it doesn't need to be purchases either. Engage with the design team. Tell them what you've loved, liked, meh and hated about recent releases. As long as it's constructive (gushing and aimless whining are equally redundant as feedback), I'm sure it'll be welcomed.

They're starting to give us what they think we want. So far, we're grateful for that - but don't forget to give them that steer.

Honestly I'd only be happy seeing stuff like Squats come back if they actually make them interesting. All the other "fantasy" factions have come a long way since the early days, just cramming the awful original "WHFB Dwarfs, but also Hell's Angels for some reason" in isn't going to cut it, they need updated - nostalgia only goes so far, especially since not everyone is equally enamoured of this or that part of the old fluff.