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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I don't think slowed progression is necessarily a bad thing.

One of my criticisms of Necromunda is that it tended to reward early success, even when that was achieved through sheer luck.

The rate starting Gangs levelled up could be staggering. Couple of flukey rolls on the advancement table, and suddenly you're noticeably harder than other gangs after just a game or two. And barring truly disastrous games, it was hard to lose that top dog position.

It probably was too fast in the old game. I feel it's gone too far the other way though now.

 Geifer wrote:

WholeHazelNuts wrote:

Oh. That looks like one big goat man. Thanks for the picture.

I'm pretty sure it's an optical illusion and the minis at the front of the picture are on a higher glass shelf. So he looks huge. But he's regular sized, not Doombull sized?

Yeah, the guys "around" him are clearly on the shelf below, but he's on the same 32mm base as the Goliaths but without the squat build.

I mean, I'm not saying he's huge or overdone or anything. Just wanted to know how he compared to Fantasy Beastmen, since this is really the first new Beastman we got in what, a decade?

 streetsamurai wrote:
Best i can do for now since im in a hurry

Thank you. That does the job.

tzaangors are beastmen

stratigo wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

WholeHazelNuts wrote:

Oh. That looks like one big goat man. Thanks for the picture.

I'm pretty sure it's an optical illusion and the minis at the front of the picture are on a higher glass shelf. So he looks huge. But he's regular sized, not Doombull sized?

Yeah, the guys "around" him are clearly on the shelf below, but he's on the same 32mm base as the Goliaths but without the squat build.

I mean, I'm not saying he's huge or overdone or anything. Just wanted to know how he compared to Fantasy Beastmen, since this is really the first new Beastman we got in what, a decade?

 streetsamurai wrote:
Best i can do for now since im in a hurry

Thank you. That does the job.

tzaangors are beastmen

Yeah, but Tzeentch doesn't count.

Started to build my gangers. 1 unique sprue per gang is not enough. They really should have put a second one in there

I hoped this game do well enough for GW to consider doing a plastic upgrade kit, with more hair and weapons.

Right now Goliath only have 4 unique mohawk. I'm thinking about making a custom mohawk, should be easy enough.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I don't think slowed progression is necessarily a bad thing.

One of my criticisms of Necromunda is that it tended to reward early success, even when that was achieved through sheer luck.

The rate starting Gangs levelled up could be staggering. Couple of flukey rolls on the advancement table, and suddenly you're noticeably harder than other gangs after just a game or two. And barring truly disastrous games, it was hard to lose that top dog position.

With no underdog bonus to earnings or experience, I feel like an early advantage will be even more sustainable.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Started to build my gangers. 1 unique sprue per gang is not enough. They really should have put a second one in there

We're lucky to get specialist games back, we're lucky to get core gangs in plastic. Everyone would like to see more but this way its much more viable for them economically


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Chopstick wrote:
I hoped this game do well enough for GW to consider doing a plastic upgrade kit, with more hair and weapons.

Right now Goliath only have 4 unique mohawk. I'm thinking about making a custom mohawk, should be easy enough.

Id greatly prefer to see plastic upgrade kits but I heard they will be resin. If so I might pass on them

Downside to doing the upgrade sprues in plastic would be an even longer waiting period than we have now.

 BrookM wrote:
Downside to doing the upgrade sprues in plastic would be an even longer waiting period than we have now.

If theyd already planned them along with the necromunda gang sprues then no. If they saw it as an opportunity only reently then yes. The problems with resin upgrade packs will be keeping up with potential high demand, as plastic machines can just be left running churning out sprues day and night. The other is QC

Thing is though, GW's schedule for cranking out plastic sprues is quite booked up as it is, so tossing in last minute upgrades is impossible for them.

Sadly we are stuck with resin upgrade kits, which are again sadly victim of iffy casting quality, but at least FW did a massive upgrade on their customer support services, emails sent to them are actually replied to now and replacement parts are sent out in a timely fashion, unlike back then.

Six months..

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Started to build my gangers. 1 unique sprue per gang is not enough. They really should have put a second one in there

We're lucky to get specialist games back, we're lucky to get core gangs in plastic. Everyone would like to see more but this way its much more viable for them economically


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Chopstick wrote:
I hoped this game do well enough for GW to consider doing a plastic upgrade kit, with more hair and weapons.

Right now Goliath only have 4 unique mohawk. I'm thinking about making a custom mohawk, should be easy enough.

Id greatly prefer to see plastic upgrade kits but I heard they will be resin. If so I might pass on them

Not necessarly. If that extra sprue would have brought in more sales than it cost (or that an extra sprue from another kit would), it would have been better for them economically.

It is a safer way for them, but not necessarly a better one

It really depends on what weapons are going to be added to each gang. All we know for now is Escher getting a needle rifle.

Went digging through my hall closet to find unbuilt Necromunda things (my Cawdor).

Located the unbuilt Pitslave Gang, the remaining not-Dalaques, Brakar the Avenger, Karl Jericho and Scabbs still in the blister and a Scum blister from 1995!

Guess I better get building for our test of the new game next weekend.

I went digging in my old stuff, and found all the unassembled Brats, Bounty Hunters and Arbites from Confrontation. Now, where did I put the baggie of plastic arms...

That needle rifle in the art does look pretty cool. Not sure how effective it will be on the tabletop but...options are nice.

I do hope Goliaths get resin arms for autoguns and a heavy stubber though. Because they are doing these in resin they can probably produce them a lot quicker than plastics. But look at it this way...we have it a lot better than chaos dwarf fans, their entire range is in resin at the moment. I'll take plastics with limited options over an expensive full resin range any day.

Ork boyz shoota bit do appear to fit the goliath.

I also expect the GSC hybrid autogun would fit as well.

Some knifework may required.

You'll also probably spend less on those kit than buying FW sprue. Although it would be cool to have house-produced weapons.

And that mosquito needle gun, ugh....pass.

Hoping for more plasma for the Escher myself, though a heavy stubber would also be nice, we need more weaponry that can spray lead without much discretion.

Not a fan of Plasma in newmunda. Plasma Pistol i get it, it never run out of ammo in melee. Plasma for shooting, not really. Especially the "Click" card straight up disable the gun.

Even with an ammo cache, it never worth try to reload the gun with no bonus unlike non-scarce weapon.

Upcoming house Orlock is the house of Bullets and dakka

Chopstick wrote:
Plasma Pistol i get it, it never run out of ammo in melee.

I have some bad news, buddy...

 lord_blackfang wrote:


I have some bad news, buddy...

Are you referring to new pistol in melee rule? or something else that I missed, because I knew about the new rule. Wasn't the case for Plasma pistol because it has better profile, even at 1 attack it still obliterate most target.

Have you seen the new Orlocks
im all over these

Yes, it's last week news....

 Breotan wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
What I'm loving about these tiles is that you can easily see where you can put 3D terrain elements if you want to play the "normal way".

Is putting terrain on a table difficult without tiles to guide you?

Not at all, but I've been playing these games for over two decades now. For newer players, or players who don't want to build/buy a gaming table, the tiles can serve as a modular game board that they can use as a base for building upwards. Plus they look pretty good, so there's that too.

My plan is to get a hot wire cutter (30 quid) and make the walls (also corresponding to the tiles) from 2" foam (more or less free).

Haha wow could that needler be any more RT-retro? Pure Buck Rogers raygun vibe. Lovely.

Chopstick wrote:
Not a fan of Plasma in newmunda. Plasma Pistol i get it, it never run out of ammo in melee.

You might want to re-check the rules for pistols in melee; you still roll the firepower dice for them.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Not a fan of Plasma in newmunda. Plasma Pistol i get it, it never run out of ammo in melee.

You might want to re-check the rules for pistols in melee; you still roll the firepower dice for them.

Just checked, yeah in the Advance shooting section. that'd make rapid fire pistol really good in CC

Thanks though

 lord_blackfang wrote:
My plan is to get a hot wire cutter (30 quid) and make the walls (also corresponding to the tiles) from 2" foam (more or less free).

This is an idea our group had discussed.
If you do this, please post pictures.

If you want to make straight walls skip the hot wire cutter and just use a snapoff blade knife carefully. A cutter will wiggle around.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
If you want to make straight walls skip the hot wire cutter and just use a snapoff blade knife carefully. A cutter will wiggle around.

There are table saw style hot wire setups with guide rails and stuff.