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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oh my....Deadpool, potentially part of the MCU.

Yes sir, I'll buy that for a dollar!


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Disney seemingly happy to leave the Deadpool films as R-Rate

So that's something at least.

Honestly the most exciting thing about that is we might see Deadpool's version of Colossus and Negasonic in a proper X-Men movie if Marvel choose to make those(and Deadpool might get access to more X-Men to take the piss out of), rather than them being locked away in R-rated land while the "proper" X-Men movies get lost up their own arse with all the timey-wimey stuff.

Who knows!

With Dark Phoenix already in the can and awaiting post-production then release, it strikes me that Disney may not be rebooting X-Men any time soon.

But, if they can do for FF4 what they did for Spider-Man, I'd be right up for that. Whilst I'm not exactly up on my FF4 lore, they have always struck me as the most 'family friendly' of Marvel's stable. That could be how Disney choose to explore?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Remember that Constantin did make an F4 movie just to keep the rights, so it's not outside of the realm of possibility.

Not sure what you mean by that?

Disney's press release specifically mentions having the FF back now, so...?

And yes, The Incredibles The Fantastic Four *could* be the most 'family friendly' property, but their best use is as a high-tech exploration Science Heroes type of thing, as well as being a family.

SO much awesome in the FF catalog...

So now Disney will own the distribution rights for all 3 of the original Star Wars movies.

They better release remastered versions of the original theatrical cuts. Lucas' tears will be delicious when they outsell his "NOOOOOO" inserting, Hayden Christensen retconning, Ewok music replacing abominations by a bucketload.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Does no one worry that House of Mouse will have a monopoly on entertainment at the rate they are gobbling up other companies? That would not be a good thing, believe me.

They don't own Warner Brothers, Paramount, Universal, Sony, Lions Gate or a dozen smaller companies, so no, not really.

I stole this from elsewhere on the web: Since Disney now own Fox, and Fox owns the Alien franchise, and Xenomorphs are hatched from a Queen, are Xenomorphs now part of the pantheon of Disney Princesess?

Maybe we'll get Alien sequels wot aren't bobbins?

I think Ripley or the Newborn are more likely candidate for Disney Princess...

 feeder wrote:
I stole this from elsewhere on the web: Since Disney now own Fox, and Fox owns the Alien franchise, and Xenomorphs are hatched from a Queen, are Xenomorphs now part of the pantheon of Disney Princesess?

Not Xenomorphs.

Facehuggers. For Facehuggers are begat of the Queen, and thus legally Princesses.

It is completed guys...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Does no one worry that House of Mouse will have a monopoly on entertainment at the rate they are gobbling up other companies? That would not be a good thing, believe me.

They don't own Warner Brothers, Paramount, Universal, Sony, Lions Gate or a dozen smaller companies, so no, not really.

They don't own them yet, but in the future, who can say?

I do like the idea of the X-men going into the MCU, although the MCU is already glutted with characters as it is. That and maybe a good Fantastic 4 movie. I didn't hate the first one, but I haven't seen the Silver Surfer one or the reboot one, which I've heard were awful.

FF2 (Silver Surfer) is a bit better then FF1, so you should defintiely check it out.

The re-booted FF movie should be avoided at all costs.

And bringing the X-men into the MCU can help in terms of upping the level of the overall cast, rather than having too many low B and high C level characters showing up!

After having thought about it, I think I agree with the idea that mutants really don't have a place in the MCU, generally speaking. They're going to have to do a lot of retconning to make it happen at a minimum.

I think they really have 2 options: they can either abandon the current X movies after New Mutants, which wouldn't be a bad idea since they've gotten pretty lame outside of Hugh Jackman and do a full, integrated reboot; or
They can go the Spider Man: Homecoming route, pretend they were there more or less all along, and (please) do no origin stories at all.

I don't think either applies to Deadpool since his schtick can be slid into the current movies pretty easily.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Does no one worry that House of Mouse will have a monopoly on entertainment at the rate they are gobbling up other companies? That would not be a good thing, believe me.

I think if you're worried about this you don't realize just how enormous Time Warner is.

M'kraan Crystal, Gateway, Magik... Cable.

Dr Strange, Adam Warlock, Scarlet Witch

There's plenty of ways to allow crossover travelling while keeping the universes separate.

Heck, I really want Cable from Deadpool 2 to end up being the thread that connects all the various X-universes together. - EG, have a scene of him meeting Laura from 'Logan' and bringing her to James McAvoy's school...

Here's an interesting article regarding this merger:
https://stratechery.com/2017/disney-and-fox/

It's possible that Disney is going the Netflix route and offering their won streaming services with their own properties.

 whembly wrote:
Here's an interesting article regarding this merger:
https://stratechery.com/2017/disney-and-fox/

It's possible that Disney is going the Netflix route and offering their won streaming services with their own properties.

They are. It's been in the works for awhile. Set to release next year with a live action series set in the starwars universe.

I'd be shocked with this if they didn't just redo hulu. There is no reason to create something brand new when you own 66% of a major distributer.

 Ouze wrote:
After having thought about it, I think I agree with the idea that mutants really don't have a place in the MCU, generally speaking. They're going to have to do a lot of retconning to make it happen at a minimum.

I think they really have 2 options: they can either abandon the current X movies after New Mutants, which wouldn't be a bad idea since they've gotten pretty lame outside of Hugh Jackman and do a full, integrated reboot; or
They can go the Spider Man: Homecoming route, pretend they were there more or less all along, and (please) do no origin stories at all.

I don't think either applies to Deadpool since his schtick can be slid into the current movies pretty easily.

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I suspect the X-Men will be integrated once the current phase is over for the MCU when the film franchise will probably be getting a soft reboot anyway. A lot of the actor contracts are running out by then and the major narrative of the current phase concludes with the end of Infinity War.


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 Hulksmash wrote:
I'd be shocked with this if they didn't just redo hulu. There is no reason to create something brand new when you own 66% of a major distributer.

This. Why make a whole new service when they can repurpose one they have a majority share in?

If they integrate the X-Men into the MCU I'm not expecting them to keep the current crop of films as canon at all. I'm guessing Deadpool will be considering the money it makes, and the Mouse loves money, but it's been pretty removed from the X-Men films anyway. If they keep them separate they may continue with that's happened and just roll with it.

Interested to see how it all works but the MCU is already pretty crowded unless they are going to use Thanos to cull some characters

I really liked most of the Xmen films, they had some great stuff and hope their universe stays in some form rather than trying to crowbar them into the MCU.

I am also hoping they will keep Deadpool seperate so i never have to watch him.

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 Hulksmash wrote:
I'd be shocked with this if they didn't just redo hulu. There is no reason to create something brand new when you own 66% of a major distributer.

This. Why make a whole new service when they can repurpose one they have a majority share in?

So Disney can keep up appearances. Their own-brand streaming network gets Star Wars and all the other "family friendly" stuff, and they can keep producing anything more violent or raunchy than the House of Mouse is known for under the Fox brands and shunt it over onto Hulu so they don't have to pay Netflix a cut.

As usual, it's garbage for consumers but the commercial logic will probably work for them.

EDIT: Re the MCU - I'm fairly sure they'd always planned to cull some characters with Avengers 3 & 4. They got a lot of solid bargains in terms of talented unknown actors or existing names looking to kick their career back into gear, but the Marvel movies have turned them all into big names and now their initial contracts are coming up for renewal they'll be able to demand a much bigger piece of pie this time. Plus some of the actors have made rumblings that they're keen to move on and do something different, so even if Disney did offer to cough up bigbucks to keep them around I suspect Cap and Thor will be riding off into the sunset regardless. I think they might keep Stark around as the new Nick Fury, have him pop up like he did in Homecoming, since smaller parts will cost them less while still letting them stick RDJ on the poster for anything they think is a bit risky. Others might end up getting the chop too, and Thanos is an easy way to deal with all that in a way that doesn't completely reek of corporate maneuvering.

Well I was more thinking they'll explain it via the Infinity Gauntlet. Reality warping and all that. The comics do something like it every couple of years.

I could see a total reboot of the X-Men where the mutant gene starts popping up post Infinity War.

Shifting public opinion when instead of 8 guys all the way over in New York have super powers the kid down the street who used to beat up your son suddenly starts combusting things. Plus some mutants are ugly, and people hate that. Port all the characters over to that. Then they can move all their current expensive guys into mentor/bit roles and bring up a whole new cast of unknowns.

Just don't do anything the comic side has done story line wise in recent times and everything is good. If only DC did the opposite.

The FF can *easily* be inserted into the MCU - they were just off 'exploring' up until....'now'!

 Alpharius wrote:
The FF can *easily* be inserted into the MCU - they were just off 'exploring' up until....'now'!

I quite like the pitch Moviebob did in one of his videos a while ago - do another "period piece" for FF set in the 60's that culminates in some kind of timey-wimey anomaly with the big final sequence being them splash-landing a retro space shuttle in a river in a major American city in the modern day; not an origin story per se since the 60's stuff would just have them already as their hero team dealing with some baddie, but an "explanation story" for why there's an old-timey nuclear family-analogue wandering around in the 2020's-ish. Plus it sets up some fun "Mad Men meets modernity" shenanigans for future movies in the same vein as Cap's interactions with the Avengers(which I suspect will be missing going forward).

 Alpharius wrote:
The FF can *easily* be inserted into the MCU - they were just off 'exploring' up until....'now'!

Doesn't need to be something as exotic as exploring. While I'd hesitate to make it a Stark subsidiary, pretty much any company could have hired or contracted Reed (and Ben as a pilot?) to do some tests on an anti-alien satellite, Chitauri tech, weird rock or whatever. Cue Sue introducing Johnny, and something something superpowers. I think it would be amusing if rather some convoluted (and ludicrous) scenario to get the Sue and Johnny into direct exposure to 'cosmic rays' (particularly if in space), they get their powers from secondary exposure to Reed and Ben.

Dr. Doom could actually end up being introduced as a background character in a Dr. Strange sequel- a sorcerer Strange rescues from Mordu's murder spree, having openly manifested his power in a lab accident he blames on someone else...

 feeder wrote:
Since Disney now own Fox...

Point of order: Disney did not purchase Fox.

I would want a FF movie where the FF, as teens in the 60s/70s, do their experiment. Doom is there, but does not come along. Accident happens. Doom gets his cut on his cheek. They end up in the negative zone. Bad guy is Annihilus.

Time functions differently in the Negative Zone, they come back and it's the modern day. Doom has fully established himself in the modern day as full doom with all the magic and and tech and running Latveria. Post credit scene of Doom watching news reports of their return, shakes his armored hand "Richards!"