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2018/01/14 21:34:17
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
I'm really, really, really hoping the Saggitarum Custodes get rules soon for 40k, as they scare the living daylights out of tanks, and simply obliterate light infantry!
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2018/01/14 21:54:51
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
They've stated that HQ units besides Valoris come from the Terminator & Custodian Gaurd kits. I would've thought if there was anything else to be released they would have displayed it last weekend.
If we are lucky we may get more of the generic SM stuff like vehicles/fliers in the codex to fill out the army. At least until FW start making 40k rules for their stuff, then the cats out of the bag big-time.
2018/01/14 21:59:28
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm sure there's more things they didn't show. Has to be, at least to reasonably fill out a codex. One of each battlefield slot an army does not make.
There's no long term issue there, there's already a fairly substantial Custodes list of units in existence and they said there are plans in some timeline or other to get them rules.
2018/01/14 22:11:34
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
-Spear
-Sword and shield
-Sword and Misericordia(power knife)
If we're lucky we might get spear and shield as an option like the FW Custodes do, it's certainly a viable way to construct the model.
Meanwhile the terminator shield captain seems to have guardian spear and Castellan axe as options. Probably some kinda relic spear in the back of the 'dex too.
2018/01/14 22:29:06
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Thats not how gw works now. Options bad, easy snap fit good.
Yeah, it has been like that for a while, but this is a proper multipart kit, so I hope it will be different. (I really wish they had done the Primaris characters like this too...)
Grey Knights are in a similar boat with HQ choices, as all of them besides Librarians and the Special Characters are built from plastic power armour/terminator kits or converted, as well as the occasional older finecast scuplt.
They don't have any special options beyond what a regular GK can have, aside from Relics of course.
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2018/01/14 22:36:04
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Spartacus wrote: Grey Knights are in a similar boat with HQ choices, as all of them besides Librarians and the Special Characters are built from plastic power armour/terminator kits or converted, as well as the occasional older finecast scuplt.
They don't have any special options beyond what a regular GK can have, aside from Relics of course.
And yet that is more options than the Primaris characters have...
-Spear
-Sword and shield
-Sword and Misericordia(power knife)
If we're lucky we might get spear and shield as an option like the FW Custodes do, it's certainly a viable way to construct the model.
Meanwhile the terminator shield captain seems to have guardian spear and Castellan axe as options. Probably some kinda relic spear in the back of the 'dex too.
Well, we've all ready been shown Normal Custodes (non terminator) with an ax option, so I'd bet my left nut that the HQ's will have that as an option as well. Perhaps some of them can have the Vexillia as well.
It would be a smart move for GW to make a character upgrade clampack sprue. They've done it for everyone else, why not custodes?
2018/01/14 23:32:58
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
-Spear
-Sword and shield
-Sword and Misericordia(power knife)
If we're lucky we might get spear and shield as an option like the FW Custodes do, it's certainly a viable way to construct the model.
Meanwhile the terminator shield captain seems to have guardian spear and Castellan axe as options. Probably some kinda relic spear in the back of the 'dex too.
Well, we've all ready been shown Normal Custodes (non terminator) with an ax option, so I'd bet my left nut that the HQ's will have that as an option as well. Perhaps some of them can have the Vexillia as well.
It would be a smart move for GW to make a character upgrade clampack sprue. They've done it for everyone else, why not custodes?
definatly be a good thing. being able to clearly diffrentiate HQs from line troops is gonna be important
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/01/14 23:33:45
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
I'll love Custodes with Spear and Shield... they look so good... :(
But I suppose nobody would take then Sword+Shield. Just give the Sword +1 attack or something.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/01/14 23:41:45
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
It's been rumored that Custodes will be an elite army that is more than capable of taking out hordes. There are a few ways that they could do this:
1. More attacks per model
2. Make their shooting weapons have more shots
3. Make it so their damage is never wasted (IE, a 2 damage weapon that wounds once will still kill two one-wound models)
4. have them able to trade in high strength attacks for more, lower strength attacks (kind of like Typhus)
While all of these would help some, I'm willing to bet there will be combination of these.
2018/01/15 00:54:30
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
2018/01/15 01:01:39
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
Where have they said this?
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/01/15 01:16:46
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
Where have they said this?
From various people on YouTube and forums asking the Forgeworld people at the Open Day.
The new jetbikes are apparently a 40k built alternative for the Gyrfalcon bikes (too valuable to remove from stasis).
I'd be happy to be proven wrong and I don't remember what threads (Sorry. There is genuinely too much going on to remember). But it's been said by multiple people who were at the event.
However, the Orion was explicitly mentioned by FW people as an example of how Custodes can have better mobility in 40k, so there is that to look forward to!
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2018/01/15 01:57:41
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
It's stated in the heresy campaign books that the Custodes maintain multiple types of jetbike, and that the Gyrfalcon pattern are favoured not in general, but by the specific subset of Custodes that unit represents.
Bullock pattern such as Sammael's bike have also fallen out of use in the imperium at large, and are just as much precious archeotech as the other pattern.
2018/01/15 02:04:08
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
Where have they said this?
From various people on YouTube and forums asking the Forgeworld people at the Open Day.
The new jetbikes are apparently a 40k built alternative for the Gyrfalcon bikes (too valuable to remove from stasis).
I'd be happy to be proven wrong and I don't remember what threads (Sorry. There is genuinely too much going on to remember). But it's been said by multiple people who were at the event.
However, the Orion was explicitly mentioned by FW people as an example of how Custodes can have better mobility in 40k, so there is that to look forward to!
Ok thank, I believe you. I'm personally not a fan of FW's Custodes vehicles. But I really want to use their Dreadnoughts and the Saggitarum guard. I hope those will be availible in 40k.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/01/15 02:16:04
Subject: Re:The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
It's stated in the heresy campaign books that the Custodes maintain multiple types of jetbike, and that the Gyrfalcon pattern are favoured not in general, but by the specific subset of Custodes that unit represents.
Bullock pattern such as Sammael's bike have also fallen out of use in the imperium at large, and are just as much precious archeotech as the other pattern.
I know they have multiple patterns.
I'm specifically talking about the new jetbikes being 40k BUILT though, due to the fact that they are marked with symbols of the Mechanicus (Also, hurricane bolters points to them being newer creations), unless they retcon them. They wouldn't have that if they were taken from stasis, due to the fact that the Custodes arsenal of the Crusade and Heresy era was produced by bonded tech-clans and sub-contracted techwrights.
Either that or it's GW taking licence with the fluff and doing what they want, which is likely
Edit: Also, I know the Agamatus jetbike units only represent the Gyrfalcon mounted sodalities of the katafraktoi caste, but I think it's best that people not get their hopes up too much for everything being ported. The real reason the Agamatus wouldn't be ported would be due to having access to the heavier Adrathic weapons. Which is the element that is unlikely to be ported according to staff
str00dles1 wrote: did they confirm that FW Heresy Custodes models will all be used in 40k?
Nope. Is just some of the 30k units. Mostly dreads I'd imagine. Apparently the most advanced stuff isn't making the jump (The more advanced jetbikes, Adrathic weapons etc)
Where have they said this?
From various people on YouTube and forums asking the Forgeworld people at the Open Day.
The new jetbikes are apparently a 40k built alternative for the Gyrfalcon bikes (too valuable to remove from stasis).
I'd be happy to be proven wrong and I don't remember what threads (Sorry. There is genuinely too much going on to remember). But it's been said by multiple people who were at the event.
However, the Orion was explicitly mentioned by FW people as an example of how Custodes can have better mobility in 40k, so there is that to look forward to!
Ok thank, I believe you. I'm personally not a fan of FW's Custodes vehicles. But I really want to use their Dreadnoughts and the Saggitarum guard. I hope those will be availible in 40k.
You and me both. I'm scared my Sagittarum and Aquilons won't have rules because they have Adrathic weapons
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2018/01/15 02:53:42
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
The adeptus mechanicus existed as far back as just post heresy. No reason that all jetbike tech was lost at the same time either. Bullock pattern are smaller and probably easier to build/maintain than the gyrfalcon, so over time the majority of production could have been on that pattern. Or that the custodes never lost the pattern for jetbikes, with Sableclaw of the dark angels being the last known working jetbike in the astartes arsenals, not period.
Sagitarrum ought to have rules, since their adrastite weapon is just the disintegration gun from the imperial space marine, and index imperial 1 has a statline for that.
2018/01/15 03:08:01
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
MajorWesJanson wrote: The adeptus mechanicus existed as far back as just post heresy. No reason that all jetbike tech was lost at the same time either. Bullock pattern are smaller and probably easier to build/maintain than the gyrfalcon, so over time the majority of production could have been on that pattern. Or that the custodes never lost the pattern for jetbikes, with Sableclaw of the dark angels being the last known working jetbike in the astartes arsenals, not period.
Sagitarrum ought to have rules, since their adrastite weapon is just the disintegration gun from the imperial space marine, and index imperial 1 has a statline for that.
Haha
You misunderstand me I'm just saying you can tell the new jetbikes are 40k CONSTRUCTED due to the Mechanicus markings (I know the Admech existed back then. Well. As the Mechanicum until the Binary Succession solution during the Heresy).
The Custodes wargear has never been given the markings of the Mechanicum before (because they had very little need for help from them).
So for the new jetbikes to be given the cog symbol means that they've had to enlist the Mechanicus' help in returning to production of jetbikes. That's all I mean xD
And yes. The bullocks are much easier to maintain
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2018/01/15 04:22:15
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm sure there's more things they didn't show. Has to be, at least to reasonably fill out a codex. One of each battlefield slot an army does not make.
Codex skitarii, codex cult mechanicus, codex harlequins, and especially codex imperial knights all disagree.
2018/01/15 04:59:34
Subject: The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm sure there's more things they didn't show. Has to be, at least to reasonably fill out a codex. One of each battlefield slot an army does not make.
Codex skitarii, codex cult mechanicus, codex harlequins, and especially codex imperial knights all disagree.
You forgot one, from way back in 3rd edition...
Spoiler:
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