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 MattKing wrote:
Could we get a separate topic for the actual news and rumors about custodes? I'm sure there are other people here who are also tired of sifting through 20 pages of metagame arguments every time a new dex is released.... I just want to talk about the shiny banana-men.

I agree. So please move the balance discussion to another threat.

jotace wrote:
Anyone knows at what GMT hour will the preorders be up?

I need those dice + Limited Codex

they usually go live about 10AM UK time

Awesome. Has anyone noticed that the scale seems a bit wonky? the terminators look smaller then the regular custodians while the bikers look a bit bigger. I wonder how compatible terminator / primaris bits are with the new models.

So question regarding pre orders, am I okay with waiting til they are live US time or should I be buying off another country to try and snag a collector's edition or dice (not committed to the edition yet)

I don't think you can buy things from other countries and have them shipped to you via GW.

Otherwise that'd be a fancy way of abusing their insane mark up for some countries.

 MattKing wrote:
Awesome. Has anyone noticed that the scale seems a bit wonky? the terminators look smaller then the regular custodians while the bikers look a bit bigger. I wonder how compatible terminator / primaris bits are with the new models.

The Allarus terminators are Custodes sized. But smaller than the massive Aquilon terminators. Bit of a shame, but they're cheaper than I expected as a result xD

 carabine wrote:
So question regarding pre orders, am I okay with waiting til they are live US time or should I be buying off another country to try and snag a collector's edition or dice (not committed to the edition yet)

They have certain amounts for each region, so they won’t be sold out by the time preorders go up in the US.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 carabine wrote:
So question regarding pre orders, am I okay with waiting til they are live US time or should I be buying off another country to try and snag a collector's edition or dice (not committed to the edition yet)

They have certain amounts for each region, so they won’t be sold out by the time preorders go up in the US.

Okay so they'll only be sold out seconds after going up in the US. And what time do preorders go live US. Never done this early grab before with GW.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Or they can learn from their unbalanced cherry picking mess that was army building during 6th/7th edition and give pure single codex builds some kind of advantage to counteract the versatility of Imperial soup ones. I'm not jumping to the defense of 8th (never played it) but I see these kinds of rules as a response to the previous buffet style meta of army lists that needed an excel spreadsheet to make sense of the faction and detachments.

Yeah but that 'buffet style meta' hasn't gone anywhere, given how many 'soup' armies are out there.

They're not fixing the core problem.

But they're giving pure armies a benefit of their own to partly counteract that. It's baby steps admittedly but it's still progress.

 carabine wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 carabine wrote:
So question regarding pre orders, am I okay with waiting til they are live US time or should I be buying off another country to try and snag a collector's edition or dice (not committed to the edition yet)

They have certain amounts for each region, so they won’t be sold out by the time preorders go up in the US.

Okay so they'll only be sold out seconds after going up in the US. And what time do preorders go live US. Never done this early grab before with GW.

Usually about 1pm Eastern

Anyone want to speculate on the colour of the dice?

I'm guessing a marble gold affect like the Goliath gang dice, but gold with red pips.

Although, they might also be a combo of red, black and white, but that might be too similar to the blood angel dice. Any thoughts dakka?

 nordsturmking wrote:

 MattKing wrote:
Could we get a separate topic for the actual news and rumors about custodes? I'm sure there are other people here who are also tired of sifting through 20 pages of metagame arguments every time a new dex is released.... I just want to talk about the shiny banana-men.

I agree. So please move the balance discussion to another threat.

It's as related as discussing pre-orders. Relax, it's a megathread. Room for all of us here!

I am so excited for tomorrow's reveal though. C'mon Terminators...

Audustum wrote:

 nordsturmking wrote:

 MattKing wrote:
Could we get a separate topic for the actual news and rumors about custodes? I'm sure there are other people here who are also tired of sifting through 20 pages of metagame arguments every time a new dex is released.... I just want to talk about the shiny banana-men.

I agree. So please move the balance discussion to another threat.

It's as related as discussing pre-orders. Relax, it's a megathread. Room for all of us here!

I am so excited for tomorrow's reveal though. C'mon Terminators...

We know a little about the terminators, what I wanna know is what the elite dudes do.

I hope Custodes have a special rule like the Bloodbrothers of Genestealer, to be able to ally with Sisters of Silence without losing their Regiment bonuses. If not, I can always put them in a Vanguard detachment with Rhinos and Celestine as HQ.

 Galas wrote:
I hope Custodes have a special rule like the Bloodbrothers of Genestealer, to be able to ally with Sisters of Silence without losing their Regiment bonuses. If not, I can always put them in a Vanguard detachment with Rhinos and Celestine as HQ.

That could work. I was thinking Greyfax, a Custodes and a couple of contemptors to make a vanguard. Contemptors are great but they don’t get the bonus to their invulnerable saves so there’s less need for them to be in a Custodes detachment. I think you’d still be allowed to use stratagems on them, so long as you had one proper Custodes detachment.

Mandragola wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I hope Custodes have a special rule like the Bloodbrothers of Genestealer, to be able to ally with Sisters of Silence without losing their Regiment bonuses. If not, I can always put them in a Vanguard detachment with Rhinos and Celestine as HQ.

That could work. I was thinking Greyfax, a Custodes and a couple of contemptors to make a vanguard. Contemptors are great but they don’t get the bonus to their invulnerable saves so there’s less need for them to be in a Custodes detachment. I think you’d still be allowed to use stratagems on them, so long as you had one proper Custodes detachment.

Yes, that's correct. You can still Stratagem them.

An idea I had was to take an auxiliary detachment with Guilliman along with a battalion. Make him your Warlord and deploy him with Troop Custodes. He let's them re-roll 1's to hit and gives +1" to advances and charges to get them up and in faster.

As the Warlord he also gives +3 CP and the 5+ to recover any CP spent. You'd have 7 CP here with recovery. I think that s like 1120 minimum points from what is guessed so you'd have about 880 to add other stuff.


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changemod wrote:

Audustum wrote:

 nordsturmking wrote:

 MattKing wrote:
Could we get a separate topic for the actual news and rumors about custodes? I'm sure there are other people here who are also tired of sifting through 20 pages of metagame arguments every time a new dex is released.... I just want to talk about the shiny banana-men.

I agree. So please move the balance discussion to another threat.

It's as related as discussing pre-orders. Relax, it's a megathread. Room for all of us here!

I am so excited for tomorrow's reveal though. C'mon Terminators...

We know a little about the terminators, what I wanna know is what the elite dudes do.

I am curious about them too.

If they are simply normal custodies with one extra attack I'll be disappointed.

Assuming they're the Hetaeron guard (Under a different name because GW love to do that for some reason), I'd imagine +1A, maybe +1W. If not possibly some extra save or way to generate more attacks.

So, basically non-deepstriking terminators. Wow, the variety, lol.

 cuda1179 wrote:
So, basically non-deepstriking terminators. Wow, the variety, lol.

Well, they're the Companions. Close combat monsters, but there is only so much variety without digging into Forgeworld's stuff. But yeah, I hope they get some fancy rules to represent what they are :/

My guess is they'll be a bodyguard. ala deathshroud or honorguard

BrianDavion wrote:
My guess is they'll be a bodyguard. ala deathshroud or honorguard

Hmm.... now there is an idea. someone that can tank wounds for a character.

at 19 models at least two of those might be a Land raider and a Centemptor leaving 17 others open.

2 squads of 5 troops
1 squad of 3 Termies
1 squad of 3 jet bikes
1 HQ

Just speculating

 carabine wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 carabine wrote:
So question regarding pre orders, am I okay with waiting til they are live US time or should I be buying off another country to try and snag a collector's edition or dice (not committed to the edition yet)

They have certain amounts for each region, so they won’t be sold out by the time preorders go up in the US.

Okay so they'll only be sold out seconds after going up in the US. And what time do preorders go live US. Never done this early grab before with GW.

I don't think any of the limited edition stuff has sold out at all in 8th. I remember many years ago their stuff sold out would sell out within minutes for sure, but now not so much. The Death Guard Collectors box was on their store for a good month after release for example.

Eh. Opposite side of the coin, thousand son's dice sold out in less than five minutes. Better safe than sorry.

So… If Custodes remain 3 wounds apiece, how often do you think we’ll see a 100 point Farseer killing a 3 man unit in 1 psychic phase? It’s only a 1.7% chance for a normal one, and a 2.39% chance with a CP for a Biel-Tan Farseer, but, with CP re-rolls you could get lucky more often than not!

All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

So with the previews, it said if you wanted a bodyguard for your favourite Imperial character, is this implying we could have like a mixed Imperium army and then have one Custodes standing guard by your Commisar or something? Cas that would be pretty sweet if you could do that.

Ready to pounce on these termies.

So, since the Jetbikes have an hq character, and every custodes unit has obsec, is there any reason to run anything other than jetbikes? I mean... really?

 Crazyterran wrote:
So, since the Jetbikes have an hq character, and every custodes unit has obsec, is there any reason to run anything other than jetbikes? I mean... really?

Well yeah. Points. The standard custodes guys are really pretty good for 52 points. The jetbikes may or may not be good for their price. I expect the missile launcher ones will be very pricey.