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 GuardStrider wrote:
All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

a replacement maybe? GKs are pretty bleh this edition

I mean technically you do get back any points you might have been using on a land raider if you go all bike.

BrianDavion wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

a replacement maybe? GKs are pretty bleh this edition

I am fond of my GK, plus I can't afford a new army right now

 GuardStrider wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

a replacement maybe? GKs are pretty bleh this edition

I am fond of my GK, plus I can't afford a new army right now

fair eneugh, great thing about custodes, like GKs. is the low model count means you can really afford to lavish attention on all your troops etc.

 Crazyterran wrote:
So, since the Jetbikes have an hq character, and every custodes unit has obsec, is there any reason to run anything other than jetbikes? I mean... really?

from a fluff point, not realy if you want to.
from a meta point, moust likely there will be plenty of reasons!

plus why would you not add some of the even cooler toys from FW?

Bolter your way to victory, charge the big things. With S6 the worst you will wound is on 5s.

Of course. We will see if its points efficient, but god damn its going to look cool.

Edit: I might, but most of the vehicles that arent contemptors are quite plain. I will porbably use the swords and bodies from the elite kit and shields from the normal one to make my paragon blade/shield Hetaeron, then use Tartaros power fists for the Solarite Gauntlets. Probably wont be 40k legal, but i already own like 50 Custodes on sprue still.

If Solarite Gauntlets get rules in 40k via FW, i know what my dudes are wielding...

BrianDavion wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

a replacement maybe? GKs are pretty bleh this edition

I am fond of my GK, plus I can't afford a new army right now

fair eneugh, great thing about custodes, like GKs. is the low model count means you can really afford to lavish attention on all your troops etc.

Yeah. Right now I can afford 1,maybe 2 of the upcoming units ,Which is why I was thinking what sort of detachment would fit best with my GK army, right now I am waiting for the rest of the previews and rule releases to see. At least since I already have Land Raiders I can use the Custode Profile for them.

To be honest I don't think Custodes and GKs complement each other all that well. They are pretty similar, and Custodes are probably just better all round.

I do think GKs should probably ally with someone though. The problem I always see with them is that they want to deep strike everyone, but aren't allowed to. A spearhead of LRBTs would probably go a long way to helping out the firepower issues that both GKs and Custodes are likely to experience.

Mandragola wrote:
To be honest I don't think Custodes and GKs complement each other all that well. They are pretty similar, and Custodes are probably just better all round.

I do think GKs should probably ally with someone though. The problem I always see with them is that they want to deep strike everyone, but aren't allowed to. A spearhead of LRBTs would probably go a long way to helping out the firepower issues that both GKs and Custodes are likely to experience.

Yeah, I know that's why I said in the 1st post

 GuardStrider wrote:
All this previews really make me want an excuse to field Custodes but since I am a Grey Knight player, they overlap so much that I don't see how Custodes can complement a GK army. Maybe as a Storm Shield "tarpit"?

I just want to field some and I was trying to see how could they fit, I already have some AM allies with my GK, for some extra bodies and CP.

... beats gk & dw

100pts per model on average.
Nice.
Can they beat 25 guardsmen each?

Apparently they can. Supposedly they tested how well a trio of terminators can perform against 30 orks, and they killed the mob while only losing 1.5 terminators.

Keep in mind that orks are tougher than IG, so they can probably do it.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Apparently they can. Supposedly they tested how well a trio of terminators can perform against 30 orks, and they killed the mob while only losing 1.5 terminators.

Keep in mind that orks are tougher than IG, so they can probably do it.

Then again ork boyz aren't all that hot. 45 IG troopers would be better than orks. For one they can shoot rather than cc. Going to CC with terminators isn't probably smartest idea(well unless you charge. 30 boyz likely kill 3 terminators anyway) while shooting works better. And not being in one unit means morale isn't issue.

3 terminators also might cost more than 30 boyz.

But GW testing against punching bags isn't that useful to know. You can get everything look good by adjusting test scenario.

Well, so far I am looking at a box of Terminators to make Characters, the Custodes General guy, two more boxes of regular Custodians, and at least two boxes of jetbikes. Maybe a Contemptor or two and maybe a Land Raider (I don't actually have a regular Land Raider). So this is going to be a fairly expensive model purchase.

Honestly, due to the all gold, this might be the first army I have every model built.

Edit: Though if it is true that can run Custodes is squads of only three, maybe only one more box of regular Custodes and make one into a Vexilus Praetor and run three Squads of 3. Something to ponder at least. I like the regular Custodes.

I have to say, despite not being a big fan of this "type" of army(supposedly a tiny force in the fiction, supposedly rarely seen, and supposedly on those rare occasions almost always deployed as individuals or small groups in support of more mainstream Imperial forces, yet somehow only ever seem to show up as big((by their standards)) honking armies) and rather disliking the new 40K lore, some of the models are pretty sweet, and I'm hoping the codex ends up having at least a *decent* amount of info on the Custodes in the period between the Heresy and the start of all this nuPrimarch nonsense.

I'll probably end up grabbing the character and a box of the robed chappies at some point to use as a wee variety pick for HH or in case I ever do come to like the modern fluff. I always preferred the HH art where most of the spear-wielding guys had robes or at least kilts to the plastic kit - having something on the model to break up all that gold really improves them IMO. Still prefer the FW Terminators though.

Elites

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/18/adeptus-custodes-preview-part-3-elitesgw-homepage-post-2/

Love it!

Unleash the Lions on a large unit of Terminators DOES sound interesting.

Seems like you very much may have the option to choose between a Bike army or a Foot army.

begs the question if Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons ... and should it not be "Part 4"?

 Yodhrin wrote:
I have to say, despite not being a big fan of this "type" of army(supposedly a tiny force in the fiction, supposedly rarely seen, and supposedly on those rare occasions almost always deployed as individuals or small groups in support of more mainstream Imperial forces, yet somehow only ever seem to show up as big((by their standards)) honking armies) and rather disliking the new 40K lore, some of the models are pretty sweet, and I'm hoping the codex ends up having at least a *decent* amount of info on the Custodes in the period between the Heresy and the start of all this nuPrimarch nonsense.

I'll probably end up grabbing the character and a box of the robed chappies at some point to use as a wee variety pick for HH or in case I ever do come to like the modern fluff. I always preferred the HH art where most of the spear-wielding guys had robes or at least kilts to the plastic kit - having something on the model to break up all that gold really improves them IMO. Still prefer the FW Terminators though.

While I share your (morbid in my case) interest in the post-Heresy high jinks of the Custodes, I have my doubts that there is any going back from the Whoop Whoop Primarchs Are Awesome (Also: It Was Cawl All Along!) style of writing the studio currently produces. Just spreading my daily dose of love and be careful what you wish for.

Has there been any hint that the jetbikes may be taken without the stupid lances? The models are kind of pretty, but I just can't get behind the lance thing. The Warhammer Community article made it seem like lances are inbuilt. I really hope that's not true.

That is fantastic that they can spit!

I am really hoping there are plenty of helm options. As a personal preference I don't like open faced models.

 Fireball wrote:
begs the question if Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons ... and should it not be "Part 4"?

The Hetaeroi tend not to leave the Emperor's side in 40k. But who knows, the codex will tell

That was almost no info on the Wardens, which makes it sound worryingly like they really don't have a special gimmick beyond their FNP and a little more Wargear choices.

I'd love there to be some fluff about the Custodians still being around who took Alicia and her battle sisters to the Emperor to end Vandires reign.

Also be interesting to know the Custodian's view on the Church as a whole.

changemod wrote:
That was almost no info on the Wardens, which makes it sound worryingly like they really don't have a special gimmick beyond their FNP and a little more Wargear choices.

and more attacks.


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 Fireball wrote:
begs the question if Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons ... and should it not be "Part 4"?

I don't think Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons. Fluff wise Hetaerons don't leave the Emperors side.

OK, I stand by what I said above about these kinds of armies, but still, this:

If you’re looking for a particularly fun and thematic army, you could take a unit of 10, teleport them into battle, and assassinate a key enemy character before splitting up into different groups to hunt down the enemy.

...sounds extremely cool, and would make an excellent "NPC" army to be controlled by the person running a campaign during a big climactic multiplayer battle. Whether that kind of niche case is worth the moolah to buy 12 of these guys(because of course they're sold in odd numbers with an even numbered max squad size) is another thing, but it's an intriguing prospect.

I love the splitting terminators. Absolutely love it.

If theyre 70-80ppm, though, it's very unlikely you ever field a squad of ten.

Does sound very funky with Unleash The Lions.

Man, I am getting very tempted by this. Doddle to paint, super-cheap to collect. And, crucially, a smol enough army to be easily taken to and from on my commute, so I can go straight to the gaming club instead of heading home first.

hehehehhe.

Found the thing in the Custodes codex that will need to be FAQed within 2 weeks...

Vexilla 5++, Ministorum Priest, Astropath, 9 bullgryns.

Yaaaaaay...

 nordsturmking wrote:

changemod wrote:
That was almost no info on the Wardens, which makes it sound worryingly like they really don't have a special gimmick beyond their FNP and a little more Wargear choices.

and more attacks.


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 Fireball wrote:
begs the question if Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons ... and should it not be "Part 4"?

I don't think Custodian Wardens equal Hetaerons. Fluff wise Hetaerons don't leave the Emperors side.

I mean, I'll still buy them because I need Paragon Spear hetareons to fill out my 30k Custodes, but that's pretty disappointing.

Seems the 40k release is cool models, bland Wargear. The 30k port to spice them up can't come soon enough.