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 Geifer wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
Mandragola wrote:
Yeah there are lots of nice stratagems, which is awkward if you're playing an army with no cheap units to build battalions.

One thing I took from the stream was they said the minimum size for a jetbike unit is 3. That's a bit awkward isn't it? If you want to make a captain you are left with two bikes you can't easily use. I guess you could get two boxes and make a captain and squad of 5.


Dang, I was hoping the minimum unit size would be 1. That way I could have had one unit of 2, and a leader. Looks like it's plan B. I have a FW jetbike that's been sitting around collecting dust. Time to see if I can convert it to have a hurricane bolter. At least it will look different if I take the relic jetbike.


As a side note, do you think the Shield Captain and Shield Captain on Jetbike will be different entries? I'm guessing so. If not you could have something silly like a Captain on foot with a lance.


Isn't there an option in the main rules for having one understrength unit of a type if you don't have the points/models to hit the minimum size? I thought I read it somewhere, but I play so rarely that it's been a good few months.

May not be ideal, but if all you want to commit is one box and you want that captain, that'd be a legal way of doing it.

And it was FAQed that this can only be used in an Auxiliary Support Detachment, costing you a Command Point.


Oh, alright. Time for a new edition, isn't it? With all the things being FAQed already.

Nah. It's a decision GW have made to keep updating the rules, in the search of balance and clarity. It's not ideal but to be honest I can't see a way around it. I'd sooner they FAQ'd stuff than leave us with broken rules for 5 years, as used to be the case.
   
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 MadMuzza wrote:
I made this video summing up some of the big lore key points that were discussed.





Is there a breakdown of the key points from this video anywhere?
   
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I really want to see the point costs. It seems to me that customers are going to live or die on the efficiency of Melta missiles, lacking any other anti armor option
   
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Connecticut

Weight of fire on the Hurricane Bolters is likely the best option overall, imo.

6-9 Bikes pump out 72-108 BS2+ Shots at 12", which with fly and a 14" move they can very likely get within.

Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.

I have a problem.

Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.

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 Cephalobeard wrote:
Weight of fire on the Hurricane Bolters is likely the best option overall, imo.

6-9 Bikes pump out 72-108 BS2+ Shots at 12", which with fly and a 14" move they can very likely get within.

I think I agree with this. The plan seems to be to gun down chaff, then chop up big things in melee. Actually it looks like it might work reasonably well.

Lots will depend on the price of the missile launchers.
   
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stratigo wrote:
I really want to see the point costs. It seems to me that customers are going to live or die on the efficiency of Melta missiles, lacking any other anti armor option


There are some other ways to deal with armor. There are relics that can get the job done (S10 grenade launcher, orbital bombardment). Dreadnoughts can do it at range, as can land raiders. Valoris is Strength 10 with A LOT of attacks. Wardens and terminators also have Strength 8.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Preorders are up. The dice look niiiice.
   
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 Cephalobeard wrote:
Weight of fire on the Hurricane Bolters is likely the best option overall, imo.

6-9 Bikes pump out 72-108 BS2+ Shots at 12", which with fly and a 14" move they can very likely get within.


Does seem pretty good, with a biker captain, probably on the relic bike.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Preorders are up. The dice look niiiice.


I NEED those dice. They are extremely cool and nice looking! And easy to read, not like the Tzeentch or Nurgle ones. And that Collector edition codex with the Jetbikes? Beautifull.
The Allarus Custodian sprue look actually like a real sprue not the strange character-sized sprues of the Deathsrouds.. It could have been 3 sprues but they are nicely packed.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Hmm, Valoris doesn't come with a helmet option. Kinda annoying.
   
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God damn the graphics for the pre-order is amazing. I really hope Warhammerart get to produce a canvas of that art.

Did not expect the Termies to be cheaper than the regulars, cas I need to buy a load.

I want that banner Termie to act as my Ministorum Priest's bodyguard, let the Guardsmen know the Emperor is with them!


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They've made the lion pelt seperate.....

Thank you GW.....thank you.

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Denison, Iowa

Is there a link? It's not coming up on the US site for me.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Is there a link? It's not coming up on the US site for me.

As usual, it's preorders for New Zealand.

Sorry I should have been a bit more specific.
   
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Australia

It's only on the NZ site which have pre orders up, it's not on the Australian site yet either.


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The terminators work out to be the same price as the primaries aggressors, (not the easy build kit).

And the HQ is the same price as the primaries librarian

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Denison, Iowa

you know, if they ever did release easy to build custodes I'd snatch them up quickly. I think it might be the fastest, cheapest way to build a 40k army.


Speaking of cheap, I was looking through my local store's bits box. I came across a bunch of arms from AoS Stormcast Judicators. Without the bow part of the crossbow, they look A LOT like Sagittarum guard rifles. It would make really easy conversions of custodes models.
   
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 cuda1179 wrote:
you know, if they ever did release easy to build custodes I'd snatch them up quickly. I think it might be the fastest, cheapest way to build a 40k army.


Speaking of cheap, I was looking through my local store's bits box. I came across a bunch of arms from AoS Stormcast Judicators. Without the bow part of the crossbow, they look A LOT like Sagittarum guard rifles. It would make really easy conversions of custodes models.


Oh yeah I wonder if those Rifle Custodes will be in the Codex. Those Judicator weapons would look AMAZING I bet.

BTW has it been revealed yet what 30k Custodes are in?

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None, currently.

Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.

I have a problem.

Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.

 Purifier wrote:
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Denison, Iowa

None of the 30k guys are in the Codex. Have to wait for the FW rules in a book or download. (praying for free download).
   
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 Calistro wrote:
It's only on the NZ site which have pre orders up, it's not on the Australian site yet either.


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The terminators work out to be the same price as the primaries aggressors, (not the easy build kit).

And the HQ is the same price as the primaries librarian


If they work out to 40 points a dude, then I could see a min cost AM brigade + 1000 points of custodes being viable. Custodes have pretty baller strategems but no way to get the CP to use them. You can make a cheapy but artillery stuffed AM brigade for 980 points.
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EDIT: or you can do what I do with my admech. Run 1200 points of the most powerful custodes models in a spearhead/vanguard. Then run two battalions on the side. (1) a soup battalion of needed supports, like scout marines, greyfax, celestine, culexus, etc. and (2) a CADIA battalion for your 5+/5+ CP farming and mortar fire. That gives you 10 base CP and 5+/5+ and scout marine area denial (cause custodes get stomped on by deep strike shenanigans).

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Actually I really don't like how the back of the torso looks on the 3D rotation of the Allarus guys.
   
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Ah right, hopefully it won't be a long wait then. I want another excuse to visit Warhammer World

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 unmercifulconker wrote:

Oh yeah I wonder if those Rifle Custodes will be in the Codex. Those Judicator weapons would look AMAZING I bet.

BTW has it been revealed yet what 30k Custodes are in?

I'm pretty sure that none of the 30K stuff is in the actual Codex, though they promised that FW will randomly generate some rules for some that stuff when they get round to it.

   
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Cheers brahs!

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Preorders are up. The dice look niiiice.


No jetbikes yet
   
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if you really want more CPs for custodes you could try and slide Gulliman in. it'd be thematic.

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Gathering the Informations.

Pandabeer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Preorders are up. The dice look niiiice.


No jetbikes yet

Well...yeah?

We knew what this week's preorders would be. Warhammer Community showed them on Sunday.

Jetbikes are probably next week.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Pandabeer wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Preorders are up. The dice look niiiice.


No jetbikes yet

Well...yeah?

We knew what this week's preorders would be. Warhammer Community showed them on Sunday.

Jetbikes are probably next week.


next week looks to be the jetbikes and veterans.

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changemod wrote:
Actually I really don't like how the back of the torso looks on the 3D rotation of the Allarus guys.


That was my first reaction, too. I think it's the round thingies for me, more specifically the rectangular holes in them. Look like Tau sept icons if you ask me.

I'll have to see them in the flesh before I'm sure what to make of them, but the backs seem fixed easily enough.

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Looking at the collector's edition again I think I'm gonna pass. For $200, I like the books and might pay but unfortunately I'm pretty sure the one I like better (the one with the miserocordia) is just a container for the stuff and the other book is the codex.

Also getting a closer look at the objectives, I now see how little finery is on them. I think instead I'll design out an objective that looks like a Galatus' shield and put engraved Roman numerals on them. Then have shapeways print them in steel (shapeway is such fun) I could have all the finery I want at that point. Shame the cost of custom printing them will be pretty much as much as the collector's edition itself (20-30 usd each). Guess it depends on how thick they are and how much I cut away.

The custodes dice look great and I'll probably direct order a set or two (don't wanna risk ordering local just to find out they're out)

Really disappointed with the Allarus sprues. They're so monopose it's hardly worth the effort. Sad thing is I just need the arms and weapons. Planning on converting them to fit onto a set of Aquilon (got some extra shoulderpads on eBay).

Probably going to get Trajann just because but I'll likely never use him. He's too expensive for what he seems to do (250 to a rumored shield captain cost of 120)

   
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Why is there an SoB one-click now? Who's gonna buy that?

NVM, it's for Celestine solo box. You think they realize how ridiculous it is to still be selling the old metals every time marketing makes them do something like this?

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