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Those issues are not issues with FW. Having rules and reasonable models to represent your army is just standard 40k etiquette. It's not the basis of anyone banning FW ether.

Those don't look anything like what they're trying to represent. At least make a concerted effort to come close. I can't believe they let that happen.

We don't know if those models were used in a competitive arena (which they should not0 or a casual game (which is fine) at the LVO. Both arenas exist there but it makes a big difference, to me, as to where those models were used. If they were actually allowed to be used in the competitive event then shame on the TOs. If they were used casually then who cares?

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
We don't know if those models were used in a competitive arena (which they should not0 or a casual game (which is fine) at the LVO. Both arenas exist there but it makes a big difference, to me, as to where those models were used. If they were actually allowed to be used in the competitive event then shame on the TOs. If they were used casually then who cares?

I think there's a question on how they were implemented - if these two are the only models like this, and the rest of the army is stock? Then yes, there is a problem.

If the entire army is converted into this theme, so different units can be distinguished, and (ideally) there is a sheet to explain which conversion is which? Then no problem in either space, for me.

I guess my very fluffy Salamanders wouldn't be ok. But I don't really play competitive or tourney. I do really think banning them if it's modeling for advantage or spamming anything.

If you have the model, rules (actual FW book) then no prob as GW has already stated that FW is 100%legit and my local GW store is cool w them as well.

Proxying in a tourney sounds stupid just like unpainted looks lame. I would imagine they would want FW since it increases the variety of models visually in it.

Locally (once again I play narrative/w open war) and everybody I've played against has had no problem with them. Even going as far as saying that they look nice and are part of one cohesive whole.

what you see is what you get and can be backed up by in bound print from the only legit source.