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tneva82 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah there is literally no reason to do this other than pettiness.

Or, you know, to differentiate the two settings. Which are different.

30K is more than just a source of stuff for you to use in 40K. 40K gets its own factions and models. AoS gets its own factions and models. Nobody bats an eye, but as soon as the 40K players can't have everything, ever, at all times and in all ways, the toys go out the pram.

Maybe because we wanna play with these cool models in a game that is actually played.

Good. So you can play them in 30k It's played and it's superior rule set. Win-win!

Yeah it's modified 7th we've all been there.

Does my using fw units in 40k really detract from your enjoyment of hh?

Seriously share the wealth. All gw wants to give heretics in 40k is goofy looking daemon engines.

Gadzilla666 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah there is literally no reason to do this other than pettiness.

Or, you know, to differentiate the two settings. Which are different.

30K is more than just a source of stuff for you to use in 40K. 40K gets its own factions and models. AoS gets its own factions and models. Nobody bats an eye, but as soon as the 40K players can't have everything, ever, at all times and in all ways, the toys go out the pram.

Maybe because we wanna play with these cool models in a game that is actually played.

Good. So you can play them in 30k It's played and it's superior rule set. Win-win!

Yeah it's modified 7th we've all been there.

Does my using fw units in 40k really detract from your enjoyment of hh?

Seriously share the wealth. All gw wants to give heretics in 40k is goofy looking daemon engines.

Honest opinion, Leave the HH vehicles in hh and concentrate on the 40k specific FW index armies.
These are made to fit into 40k and offered a lot more coverage then just even more CSM/ SM stuff.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah there is literally no reason to do this other than pettiness.

Or, you know, to differentiate the two settings. Which are different.

30K is more than just a source of stuff for you to use in 40K. 40K gets its own factions and models. AoS gets its own factions and models. Nobody bats an eye, but as soon as the 40K players can't have everything, ever, at all times and in all ways, the toys go out the pram.

Maybe because we wanna play with these cool models in a game that is actually played.

Good. So you can play them in 30k It's played and it's superior rule set. Win-win!

Yeah it's modified 7th we've all been there.

Does my using fw units in 40k really detract from your enjoyment of hh?

Seriously share the wealth. All gw wants to give heretics in 40k is goofy looking daemon engines.

Honest opinion, Leave the HH vehicles in hh and concentrate on the 40k specific FW index armies.
These are made to fit into 40k and offered a lot more coverage then just even more CSM/ SM stuff.

In other words r&h?

Gadzilla666 wrote:

In other words r&h?

DkoK and corsairs.
but yes. also i never said i was unbiased, but when a faction just outright get's deleted instead (cough corsairs cough) then i take issue.

Also i never said i was unbiased. Doesn't change the fact that the FW stuff allready in 40 k is just mostly in a bad position aswell.
Or do you want it to be just another fellbalde?

Not Online!!! wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote:

In other words r&h?

DkoK and corsairs.
but yes. also i never said i was unbiased, but when a faction just outright get's deleted instead (cough corsairs cough) then i take issue.

Also i never said i was unbiased. Doesn't change the fact that the FW stuff allready in 40 k is just mostly in a bad position aswell.
Or do you want it to be just another fellbalde?

Touche. Ok maybe gw needs to fix the fw stuff already in 40k before worrying about adding new things.

That doesn't stop me from using fw infantry models.

Sevatar makes a killer chaos lord.

Gadzilla666 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote:

In other words r&h?

DkoK and corsairs.
but yes. also i never said i was unbiased, but when a faction just outright get's deleted instead (cough corsairs cough) then i take issue.

Also i never said i was unbiased. Doesn't change the fact that the FW stuff allready in 40 k is just mostly in a bad position aswell.
Or do you want it to be just another fellbalde?

Touche. Ok maybe gw needs to fix the fw stuff already in 40k before worrying about adding new things.

That doesn't stop me from using fw infantry models.

Sevatar makes a killer chaos lord.

I think the writing is on the wall and FW is only going to move further away from fully FW 40k armies of any sort. I don't think anyone should expect renewed support... I think while FW will continue to add to 40k it will predominantly be what does overlap with HH. Its been a while since we saw an exclusively 40k FW release... we had the Ta'unar and Astraeus in 2017 and the Seraptek in 2018.... and everything else for 40k has straddled 40k and HH. Those models would have been started before the reorganization. As far as FW and 40k go, there has been something of a disconnect where the main studio handles the 40k rules for FW models... and FW focuses on everything for HH and the other specialist games. To me that means the default expectation: don't expect 40k rules or models.

Cyrixiinus wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah there is literally no reason to do this other than pettiness.

Or, you know, to differentiate the two settings. Which are different.

30K is more than just a source of stuff for you to use in 40K. 40K gets its own factions and models. AoS gets its own factions and models. Nobody bats an eye, but as soon as the 40K players can't have everything, ever, at all times and in all ways, the toys go out the pram.

Maybe because we wanna play with these cool models in a game that is actually played.

Good. So you can play them in 30k It's played and it's superior rule set. Win-win!

Nothing against HH having their own stuff, but it is very obvious that make rules sets for 2 system you massively open your customer base. I don't have any interest in 30k but the new daemon fellas would be awesome for me in 40k, but at that price point they're not worth it as proxies for something without their own unique profiles.

You only have to look at the number of debates sparked by Leviathan Dreads in 40k to realise if a 30k unit is competitive in 40k they'll sell lots.

Out of curiosity, do you guys actually know that that unit can be represented by any model with a specific base size? Or that that holds true for the entire army list? Or that having it in 40k would be redundant to the existing 40k daemon list because it's literally designed so that you can use 40k daemon models in it, as well as Sigmar models and third party models?

As I clearly stated I have no interest in 30k, no I didn't nor does it matter to me that I can use 40k daemons to represent generic 30k daemons. Nor is it unreasonable to want a unit with a different rules/niche for 40k, as it wouldn't be redundant, it would literally be adding in a new unit option.

As it stands I arent buying the 3 daemons beasties. Give them some kinda rule and I might buy them. Which is better for FW?

Okay, that is enough of this tangent. If you wish to discuss further whether 30k releases should get 40k rules or vice versa please do so in its own thread and not continually bump the N&R.

Gorgon is back with one hell of a price rise!

What's the new price?

215 Euro.
oof
Also the Deathkorp platoons there aswell.

They brought out the same model with a higher price?

LOL!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They brought out the same model with a higher price?

LOL!

I wait until they "rerelease" the R&H upgrade sprues, 12£ before. Then probably 20£ on top of the cadians. Also you want autoguns and assault weapons, that'd be another 20£



70£ for a 40 pts squad

I wish that they re-released the DKoK passengers for the Gorgon, they were really cool

For reference what was its old price?

 Overread wrote:
For reference what was its old price?

It's in the Dec '18 catalogue as been £125 (page 61).

beast_gts wrote:

 Overread wrote:
For reference what was its old price?

It's in the Dec '18 catalogue as been £125 (page 61).

casual 50£ pricehike

Not Online!!! wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Overread wrote:
For reference what was its old price?

It's in the Dec '18 catalogue as been £125 (page 61).

casual 50£ pricehike

It's not casual! They have to do it because, er, because, errr...

 zedmeister wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Overread wrote:
For reference what was its old price?

It's in the Dec '18 catalogue as been £125 (page 61).

casual 50£ pricehike

It's not casual! They have to do it because, er, because, errr...

The most earnings they had since, well ever?


Also is it just me or did they hike the predator variants?

I am still waiting on the hiked upgrade sprues for R&H, if the gorgons can come back then they surely want to make the fodder of the fodder army even more overly expensive then ever!

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also is it just me or did they hike the predator variants?

They're all £57 in the Dec '18 catalogue, and are now either £60 or £63.

beast_gts wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Also is it just me or did they hike the predator variants?

They're all £57 in the Dec '18 catalogue, and are now either £60 or £63.

Shame, i really considered one Hellforged one.. Shame.
Same with the decimaotr, 2£ on the body and 50 pence?`? for the guns.

beast_gts wrote:
They're all £57 in the Dec '18 catalogue, and are now either £60 or £63.

That looks like the standard yearly increase for everything forgeworld.

A.T. wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
They're all £57 in the Dec '18 catalogue, and are now either £60 or £63.

That looks like the standard yearly increase for everything forgeworld.

They probably don't want to be outdone by GW in profitability, but how they are going to top 3 man 50 CHF squad, is beyond me

 zedmeister wrote:
Gorgon is back with one hell of a price rise!

Spoiler:

I'm excited for the guard players, but i've never run anything outside Catachan (IKs) - can someone please explain why this is a good unit?
It's best weapons (dual mortars?) look to be heavy, so as a transport it's hitting on 5s (assuming it moved), and why exactly do you need to transport your entire army in a single T8/5++ unit?
Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, with most competitive lists nowa days aiming to take out a knight in one turn i can't see how this is going to end well.

MiguelFelstone wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Gorgon is back with one hell of a price rise!

Spoiler:

I'm excited for the guard players, but i've never run anything outside Catachan (IKs) - can someone please explain why this is a good unit?
It's best weapons (dual mortars?) look to be heavy, so as a transport it's hitting on 5s (assuming it moved), and why exactly do you need to transport your entire army in a single T8/5++ unit?
Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, with most competitive lists nowa days aiming to take out a knight in one turn i can't see how this is going to end well.

Who said the unit was good?
It has 30 wounds and a transport capacity of 50.
You roll the thing across the battlefield at full speed and dump an entire platoon in your opponents face.

Well, looks like that price hike hasn't deterred anybody as the bloody thing has sold out and is now temporarily out of stock!

How long was it gone for? Could other things be coming back?

pm713 wrote:
How long was it gone for? Could other things be coming back?

Probably gone for about 2-3 years, maybe longer. Sold out some time after Book V: Tempest came out probably because the Militia list allowed you to take these as a Dedicated Transport. It has a lot more use and application in 30k than 40k.

Not Online!!! wrote:

215 Euro

OMG! And I thought it was expensive before!

180+ comments and nobody appears to be mentioning the price hike on the FB announcement.

Don't know if that means there really are a lot of people ignorant of it, that don't care about it or there's some judicious comment pruning happening.

As usual, selling out doesn't mean much without knowing the numbers available in the first place.

 zedmeister wrote:
Well, looks like that price hike hasn't deterred anybody as the bloody thing has sold out and is now temporarily out of stock!

Not indicated anywhere; Total that Was in Stock: 5