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Jeez. Not to beat a dead horse... but the paintjobs coming out of FW nowadays are just awful. The style is jarring and does no justice to the sculpts. I wish they would get just like a single 'Eavy Metal person to move over and do them.

They outsource the paint jobs to a guy who posts on FB quite often, he's Italian I think... he has a very distinct painting style indeed. I like it on some models and not so much on others.

Does the guy on the right have a pony tail growing out of his mouth?

I think it is meant to be a braided beard, but it does look odd. Maybe the face is gurning? I suspect it will look better in person when you can view it from multiple perspectives and the image isn't blurry.

 Haighus wrote:

Weight is an issue- stength does not negate momentum. Even with infinite strength, if the chainsword is too heavy, the Marine will swing round it somewhat when he tries to swing the saw. Hence why I mentioned that the power armour is very heavy- this counters the weight of the chainsaw and actually would allow a Marine to wield a heavy melee weapon much better. Human chainswords would have to be considerably lighter.

Lighter, you say?



Ironically enough the bolt pistols here look a lot less ridiculous than on most IG art due to being thin like actual guns...

Not seen this posted in this thread as yet. From the latest Community post:

Finally, the New Year’s Open Day saw some very exciting news for Legio Custodes players – rules are on the way for using your models in Warhammer 40,000 alongside the new plastic Adeptus Custodes.

Ugh, are these ugly masks thanks to Abnetts terrible Burning of Prospero? When is that book going to stop hurting people lol

 zedmeister wrote:
Not seen this posted in this thread as yet. From the latest Community post:

Finally, the New Year’s Open Day saw some very exciting news for Legio Custodes players – rules are on the way for using your models in Warhammer 40,000 alongside the new plastic Adeptus Custodes.

Was mentioned on the custodes thread but guess it works here. Now what about reverse? 30k rules for the new units? Terminators, basic armour elite guys and jetbike. Want an excuse to buy them.

tneva82 wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Not seen this posted in this thread as yet. From the latest Community post:

Finally, the New Year’s Open Day saw some very exciting news for Legio Custodes players – rules are on the way for using your models in Warhammer 40,000 alongside the new plastic Adeptus Custodes.

Was mentioned on the custodes thread but guess it works here. Now what about reverse? 30k rules for the new units? Terminators, basic armour elite guys and jetbike. Want an excuse to buy them.

-Valoris: Use as a tribune.
-Elite dudes: Use as Hetareon
-Awesome bikes: Use instead of awful bikes.

Only useless ones are terminators, even then they might be cheaper and a viable conversion base.

changemod wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Not seen this posted in this thread as yet. From the latest Community post:

Finally, the New Year’s Open Day saw some very exciting news for Legio Custodes players – rules are on the way for using your models in Warhammer 40,000 alongside the new plastic Adeptus Custodes.

Was mentioned on the custodes thread but guess it works here. Now what about reverse? 30k rules for the new units? Terminators, basic armour elite guys and jetbike. Want an excuse to buy them.

-Valoris: Use as a tribune.
-Elite dudes: Use as Hetareon
-Awesome bikes: Use instead of awful bikes.

Only useless ones are terminators, even then they might be cheaper and a viable conversion base.

Elite ones don't show all with weapons.

And bike weapons don't match so not usable. 30k bikes are shooty units. These are h2h units. Wee bit different...

Besides these are way too overblinged to work as standard bike unit. More like elite bikes like Hetareon vs basic custodian squad.

And you forgot terminators who again don't match 30k equilavents at all for weapons.

tneva82 wrote:
Elite ones don't show all with weapons.

And bike weapons don't match so not usable. 30k bikes are shooty units. These are h2h units. Wee bit different...

Besides these are way too overblinged to work as standard bike unit. More like elite bikes like Hetareon vs basic custodian squad.

And you forgot terminators who again don't match 30k equilavents at all for weapons.

If you're saying that the elites don't have alll Hetareon weapons, they still have a visually distinct look, good for converting weapons onto. And they come with a variant poleaxe version of the guardian spear, so there's something for their commonly used paragon blade right there.

Both bikes are a rider with a spear and an underslung gun. If you can't swap out an underslung gun on a bike I have nothing to say to you on the matter.

And no, I mentioned the terminators. Listed them seperately because they'll obviously be a little extra work and are conditional on being enough of a relative bargain to justify the conversion effort.

Swapping gun possible? Yes. EXCEPT THERE'S NO WEAPONS SOLD! What? You expect me to buy FW bike kit AND plastic version and use those weapons on plastic dumping rest of bike? Expensive bikes for sure! For overblinged bikes to be standard bike unit.

Guess it works if you are swimming in cash but waaaaay outside my budget. I just keep the FW bikes then and use them. Works better as basic bike unit anyway.

tneva82 wrote:
Swapping gun possible? Yes. EXCEPT THERE'S NO WEAPONS SOLD! What? You expect me to buy FW bike kit AND plastic version and use those weapons on plastic dumping rest of bike? Expensive bikes for sure! For overblinged bikes to be standard bike unit.

Guess it works if you are swimming in cash but waaaaay outside my budget. I just keep the FW bikes then and use them. Works better as basic bike unit anyway.

I'm ignoring the "overblinged" and "basic bike" comments for Custodes because as little sense as that makes to me it's a subjective issue.

The other though... You can't imagine having the parts for fancy variants on heavy Bolters and Lascannons? You can't imagine working something out for the heavy hairdryer death ray?

The only expensive part to replace is the heavy hairdryer, a volkite culverin is probably the best replacement.
£13.50 from forgeworld for 5.
Presuming you only want the death rays, you're sorted there and then.
I guarantee the total for 3 bikes is less than £90.
Cheaper than FW, you get (mostly) plastic over resin.

ArtIsGreat wrote:
Ugh, are these ugly masks thanks to Abnetts terrible Burning of Prospero? When is that book going to stop hurting people lol

Never, we few that dislike the book are damned to eternal suffering.

changemod wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Swapping gun possible? Yes. EXCEPT THERE'S NO WEAPONS SOLD! What? You expect me to buy FW bike kit AND plastic version and use those weapons on plastic dumping rest of bike? Expensive bikes for sure! For overblinged bikes to be standard bike unit.

Guess it works if you are swimming in cash but waaaaay outside my budget. I just keep the FW bikes then and use them. Works better as basic bike unit anyway.

I'm ignoring the "overblinged" and "basic bike" comments for Custodes because as little sense as that makes to me it's a subjective issue.

The other though... You can't imagine having the parts for fancy variants on heavy Bolters and Lascannons? You can't imagine working something out for the heavy hairdryer death ray?

Yeah right slap heavy bolters on which then...Look like heavy bolters. GG! And then to add to confusion you would have multiple models on board with clearly different looking weapons with same weapon rules.

Maybe you like proxying. I don\t.


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DaemonJellybaby wrote:
The only expensive part to replace is the heavy hairdryer, a volkite culverin is probably the best replacement.
£13.50 from forgeworld for 5.
Presuming you only want the death rays, you're sorted there and then.
I guarantee the total for 3 bikes is less than £90.
Cheaper than FW, you get (mostly) plastic over resin.

So you proxy volkite weapons so you have somewhere volkite weapons that are volkites and elsewhere volkite weapons that aren't volkites and somewhere the real gun.

Naaah some people don't like proxying and such a confusing where you have volkites as volkites, volkites as death ray and death ray as death ray is way too confusing.

Cheaper it might be but also inferior. Quality is sometimes worth paying. It's not like custodians is army you need tons of model so might just as well make sure they are GOOD LOOKING. Plastic ones are yes cheaper but look wise also inferior.

As a person who has literally been waiting years for 40K rules for FW's Mechanicum stuff, I find it hilarious that people are now crying for HH rules for main GW stuff.

And yes, they obviously should make such rules, but FW is pretty gak at providing rules for non-marine stuff.

Meanwhile, can you guys take just about all of that to a separate thread?

Thanks.

Looks like the Hell Blade has been returned to us:

Don't see any new releases yet on my end, but they've put up the next big thing you can win:

See that model is very much in my "would love one but can never justify buying one" pile. Seriously for such a new army Tau got some fantastic models out of forgeworld!

 Overread wrote:
See that model is very much in my "would love one but can never justify buying one" pile. Seriously for such a new army Tau got some fantastic models out of forgeworld!

Only in 40k could a 16 year old army be referred to as new

Vorian wrote:

 Overread wrote:
See that model is very much in my "would love one but can never justify buying one" pile. Seriously for such a new army Tau got some fantastic models out of forgeworld!

Only in 40k could a 16 year old army be referred to as new

Pfft well new compared to Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Necrons, Sisters and all the others

Seriously considering the ages you'd expect Tau to have fewer things from FW, yet they've got one of the more diverse ranges.

It's also a complete sod in the game.

Well, it was in 7th Ed anyway, not sure about 8th.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's also a complete sod in the game.

Well, it was in 7th Ed anyway, not sure about 8th.

Somebody took one or two of those (I forget how many you could fit into 1k in 7th) along with a Warhound in a 2k doubles tournament at Warhammer world that was ranked by number of best game ratings, needless to say they came nearly last.

Damnit, the weeks of no new FW releases are incredibly frustrating - especially as an ardent BB fan, and there are so many star players, goblin special weapons, and existing team booster packs still needed. >.<

Killed it in two rounds with four Grav Cents last edition. Of course, theybhad Tigurius and Draigo with them...

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's also a complete sod in the game.

Well, it was in 7th Ed anyway, not sure about 8th.

Somebody took one or two of those (I forget how many you could fit into 1k in 7th) along with a Warhound in a 2k doubles tournament at Warhammer world that was ranked by number of best game ratings, needless to say they came nearly last.

I'm mostly just bitter that my Ordinatus Phallocannon consistently underperformed in that Apocalypse game.

Could I roll a 6? Could I nowt!

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's also a complete sod in the game.

Well, it was in 7th Ed anyway, not sure about 8th.

Somebody took one or two of those (I forget how many you could fit into 1k in 7th) along with a Warhound in a 2k doubles tournament at Warhammer world that was ranked by number of best game ratings, needless to say they came nearly last.

When someone drops two Supremacy Suits and a Warhound on you, they should also just reach across the table and slap you with their wallet.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's also a complete sod in the game.

Well, it was in 7th Ed anyway, not sure about 8th.

Somebody took one or two of those (I forget how many you could fit into 1k in 7th) along with a Warhound in a 2k doubles tournament at Warhammer world that was ranked by number of best game ratings, needless to say they came nearly last.

I'm mostly just bitter that my Ordinatus Phallocannon consistently underperformed in that Apocalypse game.

Could I roll a 6? Could I nowt!

In an apoc or a full on competitive game I'd have no problems with it. My Ordiantus normally works well against everything but troops, it just doesn't generate enough wounds reliably enough.