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Jack Flask wrote:
Wow, I'm a huge fan of the Imperial Fists and Dorn (I play an IF successor in 40k), but I have to say this model has left me speechless with disappointment.

Its as though they arbitrarily decided to throw out interesting elements of his armor from previous illustrations (the massive eagle pauldrons, gasping faces on his kneepads, etc), then downplay some of his most iconic elements into mediocrity (the eagle on his backpack is so small, his the Voice of Terra looks practically mundane, Storm's Teeth looks about the size of a normal eviscerator), and worst of all gave him such a horrible pose.

Maybe I'm an outlier, and I know for certain I'm biased, but I cant help but feel that design wise this is one of the worst primarch models Forgeworld has made so far.

I mean comparing it to previous art works is so hopelessly disappointing.

Spoiler:

I have to disagree. Anything that moves away from Blanche garbage is an improvement. No need for all the ridiculous bling. Most of the time its stupid and impractical.

I think the pose is fantastic as he doesn't look like he's dancing or fighting ghosts. He looks like a battlefield commander. Much like Creed. I think its one of the best primarchs yet. Vastly superior to Russ or Angron.

DORN!

Personally I think he should look a bit more youthful, but that’s more of a paintjob problem than a modeling problem.

Eh i think russ and angrons pose works well for who they are.

Dorn is a stoic man. as much as girlyman is also a tactician rather than a beat stick so both of them in a standing pose works really well.

I wouldn't mind a bit more EAGLE but i think it looks fine.

Hooray! Not only are all the people that have been patiently waiting (fnar) for Dorn now get him, he even comes with a free Warlord Titan base!

The wooden grip on the bolter is a nice touch.

Fantastic model. As a Templars fan, this model of our gene-sire is stellar.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I did expect the eagle thing on his back to be bigger.

Shouldn't the dead Marines near him be Alpha Legionaries?

No, he's still pissed about Curze beating him nearly to death, so he's venting out on the 8th legion. I would really love to see someone do a diorama where Dorn is shredded laying on the floor all mangled, with Curze crotch by smiling!

 BrookM wrote:
The wooden grip on the bolter is a nice touch.

I thought that it was Lolrus ivory from Inwit. Nice touch all the same.

The linked converted Dorn is clearly Guilliman still, as he still has the Ultima on the torso, lol.

I like this interpretation of Dorn - have we seen the Valdor model?

 DeffDred wrote:

Jack Flask wrote:
Wow, I'm a huge fan of the Imperial Fists and Dorn (I play an IF successor in 40k), but I have to say this model has left me speechless with disappointment.

Its as though they arbitrarily decided to throw out interesting elements of his armor from previous illustrations (the massive eagle pauldrons, gasping faces on his kneepads, etc), then downplay some of his most iconic elements into mediocrity (the eagle on his backpack is so small, his the Voice of Terra looks practically mundane, Storm's Teeth looks about the size of a normal eviscerator), and worst of all gave him such a horrible pose.

Maybe I'm an outlier, and I know for certain I'm biased, but I cant help but feel that design wise this is one of the worst primarch models Forgeworld has made so far.

I mean comparing it to previous art works is so hopelessly disappointing.

Spoiler:

I have to disagree. Anything that moves away from Blanche garbage is an improvement. No need for all the ridiculous bling. Most of the time its stupid and impractical.

I think the pose is fantastic as he doesn't look like he's dancing or fighting ghosts. He looks like a battlefield commander. Much like Creed. I think its one of the best primarchs yet. Vastly superior to Russ or Angron.

LOL! Blanche is the creator of the whole 40k aesthetic. You want to move away from that? Then you might wanna change setting or stick to the often generic videogame looking artwork we've got in most of the codexes lately...

 Elbows wrote:
Personally, I dislike the majority of the Primarchs (either due to sculpt or pose, often both). This is one of the few I think is very well done. It's almost shocking to me that it's not wildly swinging arms in a circle leaping off the kneepad of a Titan, grimacing with weapons twice the size of his body.

In a current aesthetic zone where GW is continually disappointing me with largely comically-overstyled stuff, this is a breath of fresh air.

That being said, I understand that the overwhelming majority of GW customers/consumers/fans are not exactly "less is more" types...so I understand why some people will be disappointed. I think my general opinion comes form law enforcement/military experiences where the real bad asses aren't the ones wearing t-shirts and tattoos to advertise it.

I agree. Rogal Dorn (alongside Horus and Roboute Guilliman) is primarily a commander, not a [/I]champion[/I], so the pose suits him. I quite like some of the other fighting poses, it's all in the context. Fulgrim looks a bit goofy on his own, but pair him up with Ferrus Manus as intended and suddenly that pose makes sense. Same goes for Leman Russ and Magnus.

 Big Mac wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I did expect the eagle thing on his back to be bigger.

Shouldn't the dead Marines near him be Alpha Legionaries?

No, he's still pissed about Curze beating him nearly to death, so he's venting out on the 8th legion. I would really love to see someone do a diorama where Dorn is shredded laying on the floor all mangled, with Curze crotch by smiling!

LOLWUT?!?

And I now hate John French even more.

Didn't think that was possible!

 Malika2 wrote:


LOL! Blanche is the creator of the whole 40k aesthetic. You want to move away from that? Then you might wanna change setting or stick to the often generic videogame looking artwork we've got in most of the codexes lately...

You need to tone down Blanche to get models that work in 3d. Blanche communicates clearly the wild energy and emotion of the setting, as though he were a madman living there.

If you want a model of this:


You'll need to tone it the flip down so that it has an internal aesthetic and balance and so that it can be reproduced by human sculptors in 28mm.

A direct reproduction of this:

would have been terrible.

The model looks far more grounded in Astartes power armour-which makes sense as Dorn is the most space marine of all primarchs (not a barbarian, not a monster, not a mage, not a cleric, not a smith, not a long haired nancy with wings, secret wings or dancers hips.)

He contrasts excellently with Guilliman, who also statically posed and modelled on Astartes armour, looks far more the statesman general than a warrior.

His sword looks like the master chainsword, his boltgun looks like the bolter-prime, being a second ed bolter with 1st-Ed and 3rd-Ed elements.

This is one of the best (if not the best) primarch models yet

 =Angel= wrote:
The model looks far more grounded in Astartes power armour-which makes sense as Dorn is the most space marine of all primarchs (not a barbarian, not a monster, not a mage, not a cleric, not a smith, not a long haired nancy with wings, secret wings or dancers hips.)

He contrasts excellently with Guilliman, who also statically posed and modelled on Astartes armour, looks far more the statesman general than a warrior.

His sword looks like the master chainsword, his boltgun looks like the bolter-prime, being a second ed bolter with 1st-Ed and 3rd-Ed elements.

Great summary.

Love the pose but hate the gold. This is the only Dorn for me. Feth all the retconed jank.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Big Mac wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I did expect the eagle thing on his back to be bigger.

Shouldn't the dead Marines near him be Alpha Legionaries?

No, he's still pissed about Curze beating him nearly to death, so he's venting out on the 8th legion. I would really love to see someone do a diorama where Dorn is shredded laying on the floor all mangled, with Curze crotch by smiling!

LOLWUT?!?

And I now hate John French even more.

Didn't think that was possible!

Dorn was only beaten by Curze because Curze was fully armed and armoured and Dorn was in his bath robe...

...OK!

But that's NOT my problem with M. French...and Dorn.

So pleased with this. Dorn just keeping it down. Dang. Not at all what I expected or hoped for but I love that he's just the apotheosis of Imperial Praxis, a living statue ...

I like it

Just saw Dorn, and I must say he’s fantastic, except for one thing.

Where’s the mustache?

His face is hilarious though, looks like a Rick and Morty character.

 guinness707 wrote:
Love the pose but hate the gold. This is the only Dorn for me. Feth all the retconed jank.

Where is this from?

 Red Corsair wrote:
His face is hilarious though, looks like a Rick and Morty character.

I bet tiny Dorn gets schwifty

 Bi'ios wrote:
Just saw Dorn, and I must say he’s fantastic, except for one thing.

Where’s the mustache?

What moustache?

 Crimson wrote:

 guinness707 wrote:
Love the pose but hate the gold. This is the only Dorn for me. Feth all the retconed jank.

Where is this from?

If memory serves it was in the Space Marine(epic1st ed) rulebook which had the original and best version of the heresy story (No fething smurfs or girlyman) again if memory serves it was a loooong time ago and beflre I discovered drink and all the good slaneshi stuff that messed with my memory.

A few more Nazgul ... and thats it for this weeks preorders it looks like ...

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Forge-World-New

SeanDrake wrote:
If memory serves it was in the Space Marine(epic1st ed) rulebook which had the original and best version of the heresy story (No fething smurfs or girlyman) again if memory serves it was a loooong time ago and beflre I discovered drink and all the good slaneshi stuff that messed with my memory.

Guilliman gets more column inches than Dorn does in that 1st edition Space Marine rulebook, although we don't get a picture of him; Dorn and Horus are the only Primarchs pictured. Plenty of Ultramarines too, although part of their appearance is a two-page spread of a couple of dozen dead ones tied to the columns of a building. Conspicuous by their absence are the Alpha Legion and Raven Guard - the latter not having been invented at that point. And the Dark Angels were green. Not quite the original version - the location of Horus and the Emperor's battle was moved to Horus command ship (rather than the command bunker on the ground as described in Slaves to Darkness).

Technically that edition of Epic was set during the Scouring - after Horus had been killed - although all of the flavour text was set prior to the siege of the Emperor's palace.

New Forgeworld Nazgul of Dol Guldur

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/The-Nazgul-of-Dol-Guldur-2-2018



I love the Lingering Shadow.

Those figs are just wacky. Awful proportions. Unless they are Dwarf Ring Wraiths? Yeesh.

Those are so, so bad. I am cringing. FW is all over the place. How can you have these follow on the tails of that incredible Dorn release?

They need to just scrap the LotR stuff and focus on their own properties.

I'm really disappointed with how amateurish these models look - their torsos are as long as their legs!
It almost looks as if they sculpted the top half in the wrong scale, then realized that they would be too tall - then decided to give them dwarfy legs instead of starting over.

A shame, because I really liked the Nazgul from the Dol Guldur sequences.