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 Ashiraya wrote:
Why is Scoria so ridiculously OP anyway? From what I've read about him in my red book he never seemed to have any real reason for being the primarch+ tier of demigod that he is on the tabletop, especially considering how absolutely irrelevant he is in the grander scheme of things.

It's kind of like Sharrowkyn except that guy at least was bound by the limits of Marinehood. This guy just randomly is ten times more powerful than his fellow machinedudes. Why exactly can he 1v3 Cawl, who certainly is no smaller?

He is irrelevant just as all non-marines are in the Horus Heresy. Turning half of the Mechanicus to the Dark Gods is not a little thing to do. The only reason he is not as relevant as Daemon Primarchs is that the Dark Mechanicus has had 0 relevance in Warhammer, they were just a background force, as the Adeptus Mechanicus was before becoming a tabletop force. He is at the top of the Mechanicus power-scale, without the limitations of the Mechanicus Dogma, and blessed by the Chaos Gods.

EDIT: And what Gorgon said has probably more relevance

 Ashiraya wrote:
Why is Scoria so ridiculously OP anyway? From what I've read about him in my red book he never seemed to have any real reason for being the primarch+ tier of demigod that he is on the tabletop, especially considering how absolutely irrelevant he is in the grander scheme of things.

It's kind of like Sharrowkyn except that guy at least was bound by the limits of Marinehood. This guy just randomly is ten times more powerful than his fellow machinedudes. Why exactly can he 1v3 Cawl, who certainly is no smaller? He just randomly has probably the deadliest weapon in the galaxy and it doesn't even get any background?

Because FW just did a gakky job of balancing him? Imbalances are all over the place in 30K. I love a lot of what they do there, but this is the team that thought unkillable Magnus was reasonable and that basic units like Destroyers were solid choices.

The more & more I look at Scoria, the more & more I like it. If they come out with a dark mechanicum that'd be badass.

Looking at Scoria again, his massive body also represents his Abeyant, as one of the three tails is the photon thruster, while the smaller two tails are his archeotech pistols.

Yeah, I figured his abeyant was a part of it, too. It better be on an 80mm base!

Saw this doing the rounds - Termite rules:

It occurs to me to notice that the option to take heavy flamers means Blood Angels can give them assault cannons.

(Not sure if they will, but it is kind of a funny thought.)

Racerguy180 wrote:
The more & more I look at Scoria, the more & more I like it. If they come out with a dark mechanicum that'd be badass.

Book after the next one. Angelus was getting so big they decided to split it into two books, Malevolence will be this year, 2nd half year after.

Does anybody have the rules for the new Solar Auxilia transport, preferably in non-potato format?

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
The more & more I look at Scoria, the more & more I like it. If they come out with a dark mechanicum that'd be badass.

Book after the next one. Angelus was getting so big they decided to split it into two books, Malevolence will be this year, 2nd half year after.

Do we have release dates?

 Yodhrin wrote:
If you're being charitable, you could say that since it has a little nubbin on it, they're not ironsights but a laser dot, and since it would be wielded one-handed with a laser dot they just didn't bother putting ironsights on at all?

But yeah for reals that looks like someone hit the wrong button in the CAD software and didn't notice until after they'd already cast up the first batch of stock

It's long been a thing in the fluff that there's an 'autosense link'(whatever that meant) between an Astartes' Boltgun and their helmet...I've always thought that's what the gubbin on the top was. If that's what it is, it'd be just as effective when properly calibrated in that spot as it would anywhere else.

 gnome_idea_what wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
The more & more I look at Scoria, the more & more I like it. If they come out with a dark mechanicum that'd be badass.

Book after the next one. Angelus was getting so big they decided to split it into two books, Malevolence will be this year, 2nd half year after.

Do we have release dates?

Hopefully the end of this year, and hopefully next year. That’s as close as you’re gonna get haha. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Malevolence slips to next year.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Why is Scoria so ridiculously OP anyway? From what I've read about him in my red book he never seemed to have any real reason for being the primarch+ tier of demigod that he is on the tabletop, especially considering how absolutely irrelevant he is in the grander scheme of things.

It's kind of like Sharrowkyn except that guy at least was bound by the limits of Marinehood. This guy just randomly is ten times more powerful than his fellow machinedudes. Why exactly can he 1v3 Cawl, who certainly is no smaller? He just randomly has probably the deadliest weapon in the galaxy and it doesn't even get any background?

I have a feeling both Scoria and Xana are someone's 'do not steal' personal backstories. Just read the fluff, Xana is heavily hinted to come from the future (or have some other convoluted explanation why there is a Forge World in a place there shouldn't be any, founded centuries if not millennia before any expedition that could have become Xana was sent, allowing them to develop into a Forge World that could even flip off Mars when they wanted to). Really, the whole Xana subplot didn't make much sense, including the description of the naval battle, wasting the use of rare DAoT archaotech on what was a small raid, or Dorn's insistence on sabotaging Imperium's war effort by pretty much pushing Xana into Horus camp by abandoning diplomacy and going straight for threats...

 zedmeister wrote:
Saw this doing the rounds - Termite rules:

80pt base seems cheap, but really it will be 110pt, once you actually give it some extras, but that seems fair for a sorta buffed up Drop Pod kinda thing. Of course, that depends on what Subterranean Assault, Death from Below, Melta Cutters, and Crawling Advance do.

I'd love to see a list themed to this though!

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Saw this doing the rounds - Termite rules:

80pt base seems cheap, but really it will be 110pt, once you actually give it some extras, but that seems fair for a sorta buffed up Drop Pod kinda thing. Of course, that depends on what Subterranean Assault, Death from Below, Melta Cutters, and Crawling Advance do.

I'd love to see a list themed to this though!

I'd say look at the rules for the Hades drill - I believe that has subterranean assault and associated rules. So a good base to start.

As for me, with this and the Mole, I now have an idle ambition to build up a proper Imperial Mole Company:

3 Moles, 150 Auxilia/Guardsmen, 10 HQ and 1 Termite. Turn 1, army appears in the enemy deployment zone

Argh!

Nostalgia there - seriously!

Damn I miss that game...

How many (if any) Marines can fit in a termite?

"Regular" marines aren't 'bulky', right?

 Alpharius wrote:
Argh!

Nostalgia there - seriously!

Damn I miss that game...

How many (if any) Marines can fit in a termite?

"Regular" marines aren't 'bulky', right?

Indeed. 12 regular Marines looking at the rules

Also, spotted this doing the rounds - HH 7th FAQ:

I was watching a review of some recent releases last night and had a thought about the recent Dorn primarch model.



In all seriousness, does anyone else think that Dorn both in background tone and physical pose would be a great model to have the first primarch facial hair? Something like a Henry Caville Clark Kent beard? (not the Justice League mustache though)

Adornable should have a tashe, it is the law

I thought he had mutton chops?

Only in some weird fever dream.

If Russ is clean-shaven, surely Rogal Uptight Dorn is.

And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

 kronk wrote:
If Russ is clean-shaven, surely Rogal Uptight Dorn is.

You can be a total stick in the mud and have a beard...it would just be well kept and trim and not the scraggly birds nest you'd expect to find on Russ. Regardless I think it's a cool look for the Lumberjack of Terra, Dorn with his chainsword.

Chances are another gakky meme or youtube video, probably the same one that makes people shriek that Dorn should be in Centurion armour..

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are another gakky meme or youtube video, probably the same one that makes people shriek that Dorn should be in Centurion armour..

That'd be my guess too - glad to see FW resist, if they were even actually ever aware of it.

 Alpharius wrote:
And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

The greatest power of the XX legion is their ability to spread gossip. Alpharius and Omegon are the most vicious mean girls of the grimdark future and they've decided they don't like Dorn. That and their fixation with (twirling) mustache style villainy.

I sense some personal dislike of some youtube comedy videos
Personally I just think moustaches look cool. That only Jagathay has facial hair of 18 primarchs is a little sad. But thats just my personal opinion.

The Lion also sports facial hair.

edit.

Unless the art from the novels is wrong.

You are right, in official artwork he has a beard. I chose the right legion then
But he is one of the more inconsistent depicted primarchs. Sometimes he has a black beard, other times is blonde, others times he is shaved...