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 Crazyterran wrote:
I lold at the fact the Mechanicus cant use it in 40k.

Page 37 of the Rulebook states that "The Mechanicum faction is never allowed to have a transport"

But I just started painting some imperial fists with Phalanx yellow, FFS GW.

I can but hope they are updating the range into dropper bottles or merging it into the main citadel line etc, they have some nice colours.

I guess that if they told people dropper bottles are coming, no one would panic buy these

At least now, I'm pretty much forced to spend about 50 quid for various paints I find superior to other paints. I/e Angron Red>Tamiya clear red.

UGH, JFC FW, way to prove to the anti-FW crowd that you can't write good rules to save your life. Five huge melta weapons and all it gets is a single shot that's weaker than a melta gun? No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you? The useful attack of the 30k version reduced to a single mortal wound to a horde of meatshields, because apparently the 40k crew is all Canadians and too polite to ram into enemy units? Why would you ever take this trash over a drop pod? Even the 30k version is still pretty terrible, but at least it might have a niche role of giving a drop pod to units (like SA flamer squads) that can't otherwise take a good transport.

 Peregrine wrote:
UGH, JFC FW, way to prove to the anti-FW crowd that you can't write good rules to save your life. Five huge melta weapons and all it gets is a single shot that's weaker than a melta gun? No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you? The useful attack of the 30k version reduced to a single mortal wound to a horde of meatshields, because apparently the 40k crew is all Canadians and too polite to ram into enemy units? Why would you ever take this trash over a drop pod? Even the 30k version is still pretty terrible, but at least it might have a niche role of giving a drop pod to units (like SA flamer squads) that can't otherwise take a good transport.

"We're aboot to ram their fortifications, sir!"

"Aboot that, seems pretty jmpolite, eh? Better pop up and ask first!"

*drill breaks outside of the walls, one nearby cultist gets hit by debris*

"Sorry aboot that!"

So rules are terrible and there is no rules for Ad Mech to take them, which would have been the only reason for me to get it in the first place.

Considering how FW has been handling their rules recently, it seems to me that someone in the rules department has really adamantly decided that they don't want to sell their models.

 Crazyterran wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
UGH, JFC FW, way to prove to the anti-FW crowd that you can't write good rules to save your life. Five huge melta weapons and all it gets is a single shot that's weaker than a melta gun? No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you? The useful attack of the 30k version reduced to a single mortal wound to a horde of meatshields, because apparently the 40k crew is all Canadians and too polite to ram into enemy units? Why would you ever take this trash over a drop pod? Even the 30k version is still pretty terrible, but at least it might have a niche role of giving a drop pod to units (like SA flamer squads) that can't otherwise take a good transport.

"We're aboot to ram their fortifications, sir!"

"Aboot that, seems pretty jmpolite, eh? Better pop up and ask first!"

*drill breaks outside of the walls, one nearby cultist gets hit by debris*

"Sorry aboot that!"

Canadian marines!

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
Canadian marines!

Canadian Shock Troops, surely?

 Kirasu wrote:
Not sure if FW understands 8th edition. This thing has to set up outside of 9" and has basically all 8" guns. Units embarked don't auto-disembark so they basically waste a turn.

I guess it's interesting that it does a mortal wound to nearby enemy units but unfortunately most players understand now how to prevent "deep strike" from being too effective.

It's atleast a relatively unique option for CSM but seems totally pointless for SM.

It is hilarious that you could, quite easily, take 3-5 of them and have them just pop up and poop 5 mortal wounds in a 12" AOE.

 zedmeister wrote:


Canadian Shock Troops, surely?

As a Canadian I cannot overstate how often I misread 'Cadian' when it comes up in 40k.

 zedmeister wrote:
Termite is here!

Spoiler:

£75 of your hard earned. Not bad. Lots of rules including for 40k

Also, for April, spend over £100 to get free shipping.

I can't believe I'm saying this but the Mantic version actually looks better, even if less practical, for a fraction of the price.

Hellforged looks to be much better. Just to be clear, I can abuse Machina Malefica + ToT, right? RIGHT?!?!

 zedmeister wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Last chance to buy FW paints, what the hell?
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/searchResults?N=2278076619+3872922800

Or will they actually remake them in dropper bottles?
If not, I'm grabbing like 3 bottles of Angron Red, Castellax bronze, Iron Hands steel. Those are soo lovely!

Etched brass plates going as well. Maybe they're not big sellers? I know i can get the Vallejo Air paints as well as the Tamiya's a lot cheaper than those especially after the crippling Forgeworld postage tax.

Price isn't the sole thing though, they produce a lot of colors which are just right for the Legion schemes, whereas other ranges, Citadel included, require mixing or not being quite right. Hence I've just ordered extra for my EC having settled on the FW paints after trying a bunch of others.

Weirdly, having placed a low value order, the shipping has probably worked out cheaper than pretty much any other online retailer for the equivalent order.

Fingers crossed it's a repackage, or they hang around for a week or two, as I probably need to stock up on more than I can afford to spare the cash for right now.

The wording on the helforged version is identical to the FW drop pods: <Legion> or <Mark of Chaos> infantry unit. Last I checked with ITC, that means infantry Daemons can embark on it. Just an easier way to get your Heralds up the board without spending CP.

ITC isn't the end all be all of rules, but I usually trust their rules judgement. And yes, I know it says MARK OF CHAOS and not <MARK OF CHAOS>, but it's clear they intended it to act similar to their drop pods. Anyone have a scale on this thing yet? I'd love to proxy it and test it out.

This is from Bolter and Chainsword

‘Just got of the phone with the chaps over at FW, and placed an order for some paints for when certain armies of mine come out hiding from the wardrobe of doom...
Yep - all the FW paints are going away. Most of the colours have a few hundred pots in stock so there isn't a mad rush as of yet. Apparently the Sons of Horus Green was at around 270-ish pots whilst I was making my order.
No specific reason as to why it's gone from the range, it was a very generic reason of "Throughout the year we review our catalogue, and sometimes we have to make space for newer items because we can only hold so many ranges and items." - something we've a number of times before and not hugely surprising. I did push further to see if there was a potential for it to come back later, or maybe be folded into the main GW paint line, and there was no confirmation either way. The only thing that was made clear was that this would likely be the last time that these colours in this format would be available, so if you want to make sure you better go and order some.’

GW really needs to grasp that selling to collectors and then discontinuing paints (or changing the colours every few years) are not compatible.

Just guaranteed to annoy people.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Weirdly, having placed a low value order, the shipping has probably worked out cheaper than pretty much any other online retailer for the equivalent order.

Five paints and a free catalog = 1.55 pounds "sales tax" + 2.81 pounds shipping to the US.

T

One of the loot sharing group on facebook posted

Pete Day
I called this morning. The guy on the phone said they did not sell enough and would not be refreshed in any form.

so it sounds like the paints are gone for good rather than just disappearing for a repack/change to dropper bottles

Dang, You know if they'd have sold these through US stores and in the GW main webstore they'd have sold like gangbusters.

 Crazyterran wrote:
I lold at the fact the Mechanicus cant use it in 40k.

Can't let 'em have transports now, can we?

 Peregrine wrote:
No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you?

Yeah I thought that was weird. Giant drilling machine that can rip through any material and... it kinda just bumps into you in HTH combat.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
I lold at the fact the Mechanicus cant use it in 40k.

Can't let 'em have transports now, can we?

 Peregrine wrote:
No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you?

Yeah I thought that was weird. Giant drilling machine that can rip through any material and... it kinda just bumps into you in HTH combat.

I don't get why Admech doesn't have access to transports. you'd think that the ones responsible for a majority of the arms/armour for the imperium, should have something.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
No special melee attacks if the giant melta drill charges you?

Yeah I thought that was weird. Giant drilling machine that can rip through any material and... it kinda just bumps into you in HTH combat.

The really stupid thing is they already have a decent set of rules for the Hades drill. All they had to do was copy/paste it onto this new drill, but instead we get trash.

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Not sure if FW understands 8th edition. This thing has to set up outside of 9" and has basically all 8" guns. Units embarked don't auto-disembark so they basically waste a turn.

I guess it's interesting that it does a mortal wound to nearby enemy units but unfortunately most players understand now how to prevent "deep strike" from being too effective.

It's atleast a relatively unique option for CSM but seems totally pointless for SM.

It is hilarious that you could, quite easily, take 3-5 of them and have them just pop up and poop 5 mortal wounds in a 12" AOE.

Yeah, congrats on killing those 5 scouts. Unless you're playing against a very inexperienced player they'll see this coming from a mile away.

Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

 griffen127 wrote:
Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

For 40k it should be Fires of Cyraxus which is AdMech, Red Scorpions and Tau. No clue when, it’s been due for like 2 years at this point. For the Horus Heresy it’s Malevolence, which has Blood Angels, White Scars and Daemons, and also some additions for the Alpha legion and Space Wolves. It’s due at the end of the year but will almost certainly end up being next year.

Well the FW clear paints are sold out already. :(

 ImAGeek wrote:

 griffen127 wrote:
Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

For 40k it should be Fires of Cyraxus which is AdMech, Red Scorpions and Tau. No clue when, it’s been due for like 2 years at this point. For the Horus Heresy it’s Malevolence, which has Blood Angels, White Scars and Daemons, and also some additions for the Alpha legion and Space Wolves. It’s due at the end of the year but will almost certainly end up being next year.

Probably shouldnt be saying this but my buddy is one of the people writing that book and he told me that is WAS finished, ready to be sent to the printers and they then got told that 8th was coming and had to completely start again, Alan Bligh then died and it threw the entirety of the FW team into a "funk" so to speak, delaying nearly everything they had coming by a large margin.

 Formosa wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 griffen127 wrote:
Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

For 40k it should be Fires of Cyraxus which is AdMech, Red Scorpions and Tau. No clue when, it’s been due for like 2 years at this point. For the Horus Heresy it’s Malevolence, which has Blood Angels, White Scars and Daemons, and also some additions for the Alpha legion and Space Wolves. It’s due at the end of the year but will almost certainly end up being next year.

Probably shouldnt be saying this but my buddy is one of the people writing that book and he told me that is WAS finished, ready to be sent to the printers and they then got told that 8th was coming and had to completely start again, Alan Bligh then died and it threw the entirety of the FW team into a "funk" so to speak, delaying nearly everything they had coming by a large margin.

If you don't mind, I'd just like an idea of the stats they had for 7th. I know it doesn't matter now but I'm still curious either way.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 griffen127 wrote:
Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

For 40k it should be Fires of Cyraxus which is AdMech, Red Scorpions and Tau. No clue when, it’s been due for like 2 years at this point. For the Horus Heresy it’s Malevolence, which has Blood Angels, White Scars and Daemons, and also some additions for the Alpha legion and Space Wolves. It’s due at the end of the year but will almost certainly end up being next year.

Probably shouldnt be saying this but my buddy is one of the people writing that book and he told me that is WAS finished, ready to be sent to the printers and they then got told that 8th was coming and had to completely start again, Alan Bligh then died and it threw the entirety of the FW team into a "funk" so to speak, delaying nearly everything they had coming by a large margin.

If you don't mind, I'd just like an idea of the stats they had for 7th. I know it doesn't matter now but I'm still curious either way.

Forget the stats, what mech models are they porting over to 40k?

 Crazyterran wrote:
I lold at the fact the Mechanicus cant use it in 40k.

Nor can the Guard or Sororitas, despite the fact that the Imperialis Militias and Solar Auxillary can use them in 30k. As usual, it's a SPHESS MUHREEN exclusive vehicle in 40k.