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 BrookM wrote:
That new Auxilia tank, not feeling it. Also curious to know why now all of the sudden they're adding in more models.

Might make a good alternative to a Predator.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's what all Necron things should be - giant constructs, not vehicles piloted by regular Necrons.

Indeed. As I said in the tactics thread, this is my kind of warmachine.
If only the rest of the vehicles were like that, instead of flimsy boats with video game-esque weak spots.
"Shoot giant necron walker's exposed pilot for massive damage!"

Was there any news of new mechanicum bits besides the mole, knight and Scoria? Any new automata or thanatar models planned?

And any indication of a release date for Scoria?

Jenetia! What's wrong with your face!?

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Jenetia! What's wrong with your face!?

Yeah the one with mask is ok but the without mask, proportion is a thing.

But full sisters of silence army in 40k I'm so happy

Yesss, new Salamanders doors that are symmetrical! Not that I have anything against the current ones, but that is really nice.
The Alpha Legion Preator looks nice as well, might get that one and convert it for my Sallies

What a joke. FoC isn't even started yet? And it's bumped to fourth in line behind more books for marines, because who needs non-marine factions when you can make lots of gold marines? This is seriously into "fire everyone at FW for sheer incompetence" territory, especially since all the fluff components are supposedly done and updating the rules for 8th edition shouldn't take that long. Simply inexcusable.

As for the models:

SA tank is boring and pointless. I'm disappointed that they'd put out such a minimal-effort model, just gluing some random lascannon bits on the transport version.

Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Gold/silver marines are all trash. Why do they get an entire book, just delete the whole model lines.

Land speeder hits the nostalgia I guess? Ugly model, but it matches the source material well and probably salvages the concept as well as possible.

Drop pod is as expected. TBH I'm surprised they made a new version of an OOP kit that went OOP because there was little reason to buy it, and didn't add anything that would make it a more appealing purchase this time around. But it's not a bad kit.

 BrookM wrote:
That new Auxilia tank, not feeling it. Also curious to know why now all of the sudden they're adding in more models.

There was talk of a Regular Imperial Army... army at the Weekender by all accounts. Since the Aurox's fluff has it as an attempt at standardising the Army's equipment it would certainly make sense for them to begin drip feeding these releases for Solar Auxilia/Militia players to see if there's still an audience for mere mortals.

I'm not really feeling it either though. It looks too much like a Predator and it seems a bit redundant when Leman Russ Annihilators are already a thing.

Regular Imperial Army for HH would be cool. My Valhallans / steel legion would find themselves repurposed very quickly.

Also the knight sized Necron thing is great.

 Peregrine wrote:


Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Actually Necrons and Dark Eldar are the only major factions without a titan class unit in the FW line-up and Dark Eldar can technically pinch (and stick spikes on) an Eldar Titan. So I'd say its very much needed to bring the Necrons in line with the other major factions. Dark Eldar also need one, but honestly FW doesn't make anything much for them so that's a huge gap that should be resolved (in my view).

 Tamereth wrote:
Regular Imperial Army for HH would be cool. My Valhallans / steel legion would find themselves repurposed very quickly.

Also the knight sized Necron thing is great.

There is already an army list in 30k where you can use Imperial Guard as Imperial Army- the Imperialis Auxillia list. It is basically Imperial militia, but the huge range of planets means that ranges from people with crappy rifles worse than an autogun or lasgun, to units equipped with boltguns or extra powerful lasguns from the Dark Age of Technology.

I think the comment above was referring to specific models, rather than the list itself.

TBH I can't get too excited by the possibility of Imperial Army stuff, because I doubt it'll live up to my hopes. It's unlikely we'd get the cool techno-bearskin dudes from the Blanche concept art because they're too close to Vostroyans, and it's unlikely they'd do something genuinely out-there with the concept like the Geno Chiliad with their grav-pikes backed by heavy weapons. It'd just be another high model count, prohibitively high price-per-model army of mooks that'd get phased out after a few years when it doesn't sell enough as a result.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think I would be.

 Yodhrin wrote:
TBH I can't get too excited by the possibility of Imperial Army stuff, because I doubt it'll live up to my hopes. It's unlikely we'd get the cool techno-bearskin dudes from the Blanche concept art because they're too close to Vostroyans, and it's unlikely they'd do something genuinely out-there with the concept like the Geno Chiliad with their grav-pikes backed by heavy weapons. It'd just be another high model count, prohibitively high price-per-model army of mooks that'd get phased out after a few years when it doesn't sell enough as a result.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think I would be.

Well, we got the Solar Auxilia, who are both pretty awesome and new in style, and also Imperial Army (about a quarter of the total Imperial Army being Solar Auxilia-style units). If we got another new concept, it would be cool, but I think it is unlikely because we already have the main template for elite Imperial Army, and the other elite regiments are essentially unique examples from specific traditions and worlds- so-called regiments of renown. Examples being the Geno Chiliad you mention, the Lucifer Blacks, the Byzant Janizars and so on. Therefore any force created for them would be comparatievely limited. Any Imperial Guard regiment can be used to represent an Imperial Auxilia force from a world of the players choosing.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind them making Vostroyan-styled infantry simply because then it would do double-duty as Vostroyans if they were similar enough. I think the Vostoryans are basically using a Great Crusade-era theme to their equipment, perhaps something to do with their atonement for their involvement in the Heresy.

Considering Forge World are no longer bound by the realm of resin I could see them putting out at least a plastic basic trooper box, especially if Imperial Guard players could double dip into it as a 40k regiment... say, Vostroyans.

 Overread wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:


Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Actually Necrons and Dark Eldar are the only major factions without a titan class unit in the FW line-up and Dark Eldar can technically pinch (and stick spikes on) an Eldar Titan. So I'd say its very much needed to bring the Necrons in line with the other major factions. Dark Eldar also need one, but honestly FW doesn't make anything much for them so that's a huge gap that should be resolved (in my view).

How titanic does titan class have to be? The gauss pylon is about the size of a knight, I think.

 Arachnofiend wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:


Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Actually Necrons and Dark Eldar are the only major factions without a titan class unit in the FW line-up and Dark Eldar can technically pinch (and stick spikes on) an Eldar Titan. So I'd say its very much needed to bring the Necrons in line with the other major factions. Dark Eldar also need one, but honestly FW doesn't make anything much for them so that's a huge gap that should be resolved (in my view).

How titanic does titan class have to be? The gauss pylon is about the size of a knight, I think.

If you go to the community blog it says the necron construct is the size of an imperial knight

 Arachnofiend wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:


Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Actually Necrons and Dark Eldar are the only major factions without a titan class unit in the FW line-up and Dark Eldar can technically pinch (and stick spikes on) an Eldar Titan. So I'd say its very much needed to bring the Necrons in line with the other major factions. Dark Eldar also need one, but honestly FW doesn't make anything much for them so that's a huge gap that should be resolved (in my view).

How titanic does titan class have to be? The gauss pylon is about the size of a knight, I think.

Yeah, but it's not a mobile warmachine like titans and knights are. It's just a big immobile turret that's really good at killing titans. It's hardly the same.

"Necrons lack a knight equivalent" is a different argument than "Necrons lack a titan class unit". You're certainly not going to see any arguments from me against the existence of this new walker, I like it a lot.

 Peregrine wrote:
Gold/silver marines are all trash. Why do they get an entire book, just delete the whole model lines.

Jesus you're grumpy.

We get that you're not a fan of Marines, but you're so fething selfish that you want them removed from the game?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Gold/silver marines are all trash. Why do they get an entire book, just delete the whole model lines.

Jesus you're grumpy.

We get that you're not a fan of Marines, but you're so fething selfish that you want them removed from the game?

Well, to be honest, I can see where he's coming from, since them being playable is a radical departure from previous editions fluff.

When your army’s units are constantly going on last chance to buy, to be replaced by more units that we already have to many of, I think it’s acceptable to be a little bit grumpy.

Obviously, not advocating for deleting the model lines. I’d rather they just freeze all development of new stuff until the old stuff is finished.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We get that you're not a fan of Marines, but you're so fething selfish that you want them removed from the game?

Yep. Gold marines are terrible models with incredibly stupid fluff and rules that are essentially "WE ARE THE BESTEST MARINES WERE JUST LIKE THE BEST MARINES BUT BETTER AT EVERYTHING" fanboy trash from the worst of the proposed rules forum. Making them in the first place was a mistake, and now they're bumping more important books (which have already been delayed for years) and driving other stuff OOP. My DKoK have rules that were thrown together on the intern's lunch break and still haven't been updated to match the new codex, and my grenadiers have been out of stock for months with vague promises of "we're fixing the molds someday". Elysians are gone entirely, and I have to keep a cash reserve at all times just in case something I might have future plans for goes on last chance to buy. But I'm so glad we have another color of space marines and a million different doors.

How can you say that Elysians are better models than Adeptus Custodes...

How do you dare!

Why can't you people accept that [This thing I like and want] is just much less popular and gives much less money to GW than [This other thing I dislike and I don't want more of it]?

I accepted that reality with my 8k points of Warhammer Fantasy greenskins after Warhammer Fantasy was killed off. I suppose the constant promise of a brigther future is what keeps you out of accepting the harsh truth.

 Galas wrote:
How can you say that Elysians are better models than Adeptus Custodes...

Easily. They are. And they certainly had much better fluff, along with rules that didn't come from the worst of the proposed rules sewer.

Why can't you people accept that [This thing I like and want] is just much less popular and gives much less money to GW than [This other thing I dislike and I don't want more of it]?

Because that's the short-sighted reasoning that leads to a game of nothing but space marines, because space marines are the single best selling product line. You have to keep a diversity of product lines even if not all of them sell as well as the top stuff, because without it you have a one-dimensional game that nobody plays anymore. Marine players already have tons of stuff and are getting more, while Tau and Admech players are waiting years to get their book and rules updates.

Oh, I absolutely agree that a diverse game is good in the long run even if not everything sells equally.

But GW is what it is, and they will do what they will do. You can accept that, give them feedback or just stay here posting the same thing again and again.

Hmmm... nevermind.


By the way, Adeptus Custodes is the first true elite army that GW makes, feels like an elite army, and actually works in the table, without flying rodent gak insane OP shenanigans like 5th Grey Knights.

 Galas wrote:

By the way, Adeptus Custodes is the first true elite army that GW makes, feels like an elite army, and actually works in the table, without flying rodent gak insane OP shenanigans like 5th Grey Knights.

What, you don't like multi wound infantry with 2++ Invulnerable saves coming out their asses?

Has anyone asked them about the possibility of "made to order' kind of thing? Or "model on demand"?

rivers3162 wrote:
Was there any news of new mechanicum bits besides the mole, knight and Scoria? Any new automata or thanatar models planned?

And any indication of a release date for Scoria?

No to all of that. Scoria hasn't changed at all from the weekender from what I could see so it should be due very soon, no idea why we are still waiting IMO.

 CragHack wrote:
Has anyone asked them about the possibility of "made to order' kind of thing? Or "model on demand"?

Somebody asked Tony that question in the Q&A session I was in, it wasn't something he had thought of before but seemed to like the idea. Warehouse space vs. sales was the clear message with why stuff was being removed from Tony.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
Has anyone asked them about the possibility of "made to order' kind of thing? Or "model on demand"?

Somebody asked Tony that question in the Q&A session I was in, it wasn't something he had thought of before but seemed to like the idea. Warehouse space vs. sales was the clear message with why stuff was being removed from Tony.

Was there something new/intresting in Forgeworld Q&A?

 Peregrine wrote:
What a joke. FoC isn't even started yet? And it's bumped to fourth in line behind more books for marines, because who needs non-marine factions when you can make lots of gold marines? This is seriously into "fire everyone at FW for sheer incompetence" territory, especially since all the fluff components are supposedly done and updating the rules for 8th edition shouldn't take that long. Simply inexcusable.

SA tank is boring and pointless. I'm disappointed that they'd put out such a minimal-effort model, just gluing some random lascannon bits on the transport version.

Necron walker is pretty cool, but comes out of nowhere. Was this something that was really needed? Or is this another case of FW lacking discipline and wandering off to do random side projects instead of finishing more important things?

Complains about an over abundance of space marine stuff, the continues on to complain about the two non space marine releases

Sounds like its just you complaining about FOC because you specifically want that more than anything else. There is no precedent of importance given to something just because you want it more. I for one want all the Horus Heresy stuff I can get my grubby hands on, but I can at least understand the intermittent releases of Xeno, Hobbit, and specialist game items. I may not care for it as much, but Im not gonna raise hell and call for burning down the whole model line.

Also, Custodes are not Space Marines.