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2018/01/05 18:44:36
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game - ends 8PM BST Friday 25th May
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Fixture of Dakka
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2018/01/05 18:56:34
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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RogueSangre
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I may get this one over the Mythic Batman game coming in February. Been very happy with most of the Mantic Walking Dead models pending a couple of poor casts which have been replaced.
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2018/01/05 19:12:59
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Interested in what this one ends up looking like
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2018/01/05 19:21:32
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Me too!
...the Hellboy board game will feature stunning, pre-assembled plastic miniatures that accurately capture the look and feel of Mike Mignola’s world famous comic series.
Did the Walking Dead models turn out nicely?
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2018/01/05 19:45:38
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Fixture of Dakka
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Aeneades wrote:I may get this one over the Mythic Batman game coming in February. Been very happy with most of the Mantic Walking Dead models pending a couple of poor casts which have been replaced.
Monolith, not Mythic .
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2018/01/05 20:22:17
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Terrifying Doombull
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Yay, Mantic will keep delaying Kings of War and Warpath for yet another side project.
There was a brief moment I thought they were actually serious about developing real alternatives to the Warhammers.
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2018/01/05 20:27:35
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Fixture of Dakka
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Voss wrote:Yay, Mantic will keep delaying Kings of War and Warpath for yet another side project.
There was a brief moment I thought they were actually serious about developing real alternatives to the Warhammers.
Cashing in on comic book licenses seems to be the new MO.
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2018/01/05 20:30:41
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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They should get Rob Liefeld to make a game then they can use all those old Basilean men at arms figs.
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2018/01/05 20:35:34
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Voss wrote:Yay, Mantic will keep delaying Kings of War and Warpath for yet another side project.
There was a brief moment I thought they were actually serious about developing real alternatives to the Warhammers.
Sure, Warpath had the factory problems with the vehicles causing delays, but where has Kings of War been delayed? A little hyperbolic.
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2018/01/05 20:37:17
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Theophony wrote:They should get Rob Liefeld to make a game then they can use all those old Basilean men at arms figs.
He's busy sculpting the Mantic troll range
I'm a lot more interested by this than the walking dead. Always been interested in the Hellboy comics but never gotten around to it. Supposedly there's a pretty well fleshed out weirdwar-esque universe established through the comics, graphic novels etc.. (I assume that the license, similar to TWD is for adapting the comic universe rather than the movie depictions).
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2018/01/05 21:06:06
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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I've been extremely happy with The Walking Dead - in fact, I have the Safety Behind Bars expansion arriving in the mail today. It fits perfectly between board game and miniature game, without really giving up the strengths of either, and it is pretty respectful of the source material (despite not being a fan of the comic, I still appreciate this). The models are also at a halfway point, being preassembled or one piece, but using better plastic and having good design with some cool detail. And I really like the modular neoprene mats.
I've been disappointed with just about everything else Mantic has done and it seems like they abandon most of their games after a month, and this one sounds more in line with Dwarf/Star Saga than TWD. Mantic can do great work when they really want to. I just wish they wanted to more often.
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2018/01/05 21:31:48
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sqorgar wrote:I've been extremely happy with The Walking Dead - in fact, I have the Safety Behind Bars expansion arriving in the mail today. It fits perfectly between board game and miniature game, without really giving up the strengths of either, and it is pretty respectful of the source material (despite not being a fan of the comic, I still appreciate this). The models are also at a halfway point, being preassembled or one piece, but using better plastic and having good design with some cool detail. And I really like the modular neoprene mats.
I've been disappointed with just about everything else Mantic has done and it seems like they abandon most of their games after a month, and this one sounds more in line with Dwarf/Star Saga than TWD. Mantic can do great work when they really want to. I just wish they wanted to more often.
My understanding is it is based on twd game engine with adjustments made to take into account the more powerful protaganists of Hellboy and the potential for larger games, rather than being based on the dungeon/star saga games.
Not sure if that's a good thing as the walking dead was one of the 2 Mantic KS I did not back but i mostly see good things about it so I may go for this as I used to enjoy Hellboy.
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2018/01/05 21:32:09
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Mignolaverse is good stuff. It's been going for quite some time. There's literally 1000s of pages of story out there if you're willing to invest the time reading it. Thankfully Dark Horse has been collecting a lot of the older paperback editions and collections them into big 400+ page hardcovers. I'm a sucker for Guy Davis art, so maybe I'm a bit impartial, but they're good books.
I'll check this out for sure. Love the books, was impressed with Walking Dead, satisfied with Star Saga so far... I like where Mantic is taking these board game projects.
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2018/01/05 21:40:45
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Is this the Walking Dead compatible co-op boardgame they hinted at in the Walking Dead update, or is that an entirely different boardgame being planned?
And Alph, the Walking Dead miniatures did turn out very nice.
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2018/01/05 21:43:33
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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RogueSangre
West Sussex, UK
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Barzam wrote:Is this the Walking Dead compatible co- op boardgame they hinted at in the Walking Dead update, or is that an entirely different boardgame being planned?
And Alph, the Walking Dead miniatures did turn out very nice.
This is a different game. The mantic blog article mentions that the secret upcoming game is based upon a walking dead story line.
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2018/01/05 21:45:23
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Okay, cool. So that means Mantic has at least two new boardgame projects for 2018. I for one am fine with that.
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2018/01/05 21:47:12
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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SeanDrake wrote:My understanding is it is based on twd game engine with adjustments made to take into account the more powerful protaganists of Hellboy and the potential for larger games, rather than being based on the dungeon/star saga games.
Where are you getting this from? Reading the press release, they specifically mention "Up to four people take control of iconic BRPD members, such as Hellboy, Abe Sapien and Roger the Homunculus, before exploring gothic locations and uncovering ancient artifacts." - If it was TWD related, it wouldn't specifically call out 1-4 players, and "exploring gothic locations" makes me think a dungeon crawl.
If it is TWD related, that is the best possible outcome for me.
Barzam wrote:Is this the Walking Dead compatible co-op boardgame they hinted at in the Walking Dead update, or is that an entirely different boardgame being planned?
They specifically mention that the board game is "inspired by one of the major storylines in The Walking Dead", so it must be a different game.
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2018/01/05 21:48:05
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Dakka Veteran
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Voss wrote:Yay, Mantic will keep delaying Kings of War and Warpath for yet another side project.
There was a brief moment I thought they were actually serious about developing real alternatives to the Warhammers.
Notwarhammers have been around almost as long as Warhammer and all have fallen by the wayside. It's a fools errand.
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2018/01/05 23:08:12
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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It good that non established companies like this can use kickstarter to allow them to do a project ...ffs
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2018/01/05 23:32:19
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I found TWD miniatures to be a bit "chunky" compared to other modern-day miniatures, but I thought they were otherwise fine. I don't like TWD's business model of selling you only one or two cast miniatures per box. Star Saga backers report different plastics used in the miniatures, resulting in, frex, the infamous bendy sf tables.
I didn't back Star Saga, so don't have the mini's. I guess I'll see how the Terrain Crate mini's are before deciding on Hellboy? I have the old HeroClix boxed set, myself. Thanks for the news!
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2018/01/06 00:14:06
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks like Mantic is going the Spartan Games road, hm.
And yup, that certainly will mean the previous Kickstarters still in progress will push their release dates. As usual.
KoW releases are already impacted, anyway. See the blog announcement about 2018 releases for KoW : only monsters and characters. Such big releases for a mass battle wargame with so many lists and so few Mantic miniatures to play them.
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2018/01/06 09:22:24
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Foxy Wildborne
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So what's the genre here? I assume some sort of elder horror investigation knockoff.
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2018/01/06 11:37:37
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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... in the mantic hq they are not capable of focusing on making good miniatures and new races for the fantasy range kings of war????... warpath too damn!!!
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2018/01/06 13:38:26
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, Mantic is seriously starting to lose focus, ala Spartan games.
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2018/01/06 14:02:25
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's always hard to tell from the outside looking in, if the change in focus is a Spartan like 'bored now, let's do something else;
or whether sales numbers are telling them that board games are the best way to go with the mass battle stuff useful for steady slower releases but not where the main money is coming from
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2018/01/06 15:02:49
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:It's always hard to tell from the outside looking in, if the change in focus is a Spartan like 'bored now, let's do something else;
or whether sales numbers are telling them that board games are the best way to go with the mass battle stuff useful for steady slower releases but not where the main money is coming from
IMO the latter is more likely. Many people play KoW and/or Warpath with non-Mantic miniatures that they already own so that limits what Mantic can earn from those games (and to be fair that's kinda how they are marketed and it's easy enough to find appropriate non-Mantic minis for most of the units in those games... it's too late for Mantic to pull back on that now). TWD has been their biggest money-maker ever, so this is not really all that surprising a move.
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2018/01/06 15:16:59
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can't imagine Hellboy doing nearly as well as Walking Dead did for them.
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2018/01/06 16:27:16
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's more likely that Kickstarters are where the money is for Mantic. At the very least, Hellboy should be perfect for that.
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2018/01/26 17:32:50
Subject: [KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not sure if this is know already but the Mantic newsletter has just said James Hewitt is going to be doing the game design work on this
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2018/01/26 17:34:29
Subject: Re:[KS] Mantic Games - Hellboy board game April 2018
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yep there's a blog post about it as well
We are pleased to announce that our upcoming Hellboy board game – based upon the visionary comic book series by Mike Mignola – will be designed by well known tabletop games designer James M. Hewitt. With a wealth of high profile titles already under his belt, James will ensure the Hellboy board game lives up to the world famous source material.
The Hellboy board game will be a co-operative experience in which players face off against some of the comic’s most famous foes. Up to four people take control of iconic BPRD members, such as Hellboy, Abe Sapien and Liz Sherman, before exploring gothic locations and uncovering ancient artifacts.
After previously working at Mantic Games and Games Workshop, James now heads up the games design studio Needy Cat Games. In the past he has developed hugely popular titles, such as DreadBall, Necromunda 2017, Blood Bowl 2016, Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower and Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth.
“We wanted a talented games designer who could create a fun, co-operative board game that incorporates the atmosphere and drama of the comics,” said Ronnie Renton, Mantic Games CEO. “James has a wealth of experience making a diverse range of titles and he’s most certainly the man for the job.”
“This is – forgive the pun – one hell of a license to work with,” added James. “The thought of sinking my teeth into the BPRD’s adventures and reimagining them for the tabletop… well, that sounds more fun than a monkey with a gun. This is a great chance to make a narrative-led game that mixes big, loud action with a wry sense of humour. I can’t wait!”
Hellboy has appeared in graphic novels and comic books, prose novels and short story collections, two animated features, two live-action films, toy lines and all manner of merchandise.
The Hellboy board game will be launching on Kickstarter in April 2018. Make sure you sign up to the Mantic Games newsletter at www.manticgames.com for the latest developments.
Needy Cat Games - James is working freelance now.
https://www.needycatgames.com/
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