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Aeneades wrote:
£89 24 hour early bird now up. If you have backed already then switch!

Odd that they didn't launch with it maybe they can't now that it's a timed EB.

EDIT: Ah the KS launched a minute early but the EBs are timed 8PM to 8PM tomorrow so didn't show for the first minute

 endtransmission wrote:
That is seriously a lot of stuff in the base pledge already...

They mentioned in one of the blogs that they wanted to make certain that the opening offer was a good deal without the need for fake stretch goals. We may see less stretch goals than usual because of this but I appreciate the up front value and honesty.

I suspect that there might be a few add-ons in the pipeline as well.

I'm about as familiar with Hellboy to know the stuff that's already in, but what else might we expect to see as paid add-ons?

We already know that we have Lobster Johnson, Hecate and Roger as we've seen the cad figures. There are a lot of other monsters and BPRD agents that could be done.

We have the Nazi troopers in the Conqueror Worm bow, so I can see some more of the Nazi villains appearing as a mini expansion as they would have the henchmen already available for them

And it is about to be funded in about 15 minutes!

Can we get a Matt Wagner's MAGE game too now please?

We've breached the initial goal

Frst stretch is Hecate


And Hecate is in already.

Hecate is more than a CAD figure, it's one of the masters they sent to Angel Giraldez to paint up

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh6jovGlMG_/

Yeah, I know. But I don't think we've seen Roger or Lobster in physical form yet have we?

Until now anyway.



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Roger is now unlocked...



So, the info around Trevor says " As well as having playable agents, another key element of Hellboy: The Board Game is the ability to call in support from other agents or colleagues in the field. And who better to call in than Trevor Bruttenholm himself?", which I guess unlocks the ability to have loads of the lesser known supporting agents, Tom Manning or Kate

This has great value without any of the stretch goals. I'm glad to see it moving so fast. The early bird savings are also nice.

Giraldez had a photo of a fair sized Mantic box on a (now no longer visible) instagram story, and he's only shown himself painting a small handful of Hellboy minis.

I have the impression that every single mini has been finalised, approved, and probably mastered (or is being mastered right now), which is (part of) why it has an unusually optimistic shipping date of Feb '19.

How will all of these non-exclusive stretch goal minis be sold at retail?

Is there enough of a theme that they'll be bundled together in an expansion?

Well.
"Seed of Darkness" is pretty much done.

Hecate and Unmensch i presume would go into the corebox (with guirescu if he shows up) because of "Wake the Devil".

"Conqueror Worm" would be Herman von Klemp with a Kriegsaffe#10 (if we get one) plus Roger and Lobster Johnson.

Hmmm.

So these are still kind of/sort of Fake Stretch Goals in a sense?

No big deal, as The Value is already here, and it is certainly a well established part of the Kickstarter game.

Could just be items sold online post Kickstarter so it wouldn’t be KS exclusive.

@ Mysterio
These are just assumptions on my part. Take it with a grain of salt.
if you take in account the comics Johann shouldn t even be there. Afaik he never met Hellboy(in the comics). Nice that they put him in anyway.
I wonder what they are allowed to use exacly, since Johann is not a part of the Hellboy-titles. He is part of a spinoff-series called BPRD when they split the series from hellboys-storyarc.
Did they get the whole Mignoliaverse for this Ks? Is a Sir Edward Grey coming? Benjamin Daimyo?

But other than that they pretty much got the first 3 bigger storystrings from the Hellboy-mainseries covered here, I would have not assumed to get "Wake the Devil" in the corebox, if i didn t read that from ronny in an interview beforehand.
Maybe Guirescu and Hecate will get moved into the BPRD-archives for retail, since they were with the women of tessalia(harpies)?
We could also get Baba Yaga and a bigger Werwolf in the BPRD-archives. Would be pretty fitting to cover the "one shots" between the 2nd and 3rd bigger storyarcs.
But i was pretty surprised that we got such a bundle of "generic" minions in the beginning.
Mantic could have taken every one kind of them and make an expansion out of them. (Wolves of St. August for example).
But maybe that will be coming later, with these monsters here just for show of whats to come. A added bonus for Kslers.
Mantic could have made this way more piecemeal than they did....

But after this info I m pretty dry about the comics. Just started reading them(finished Conqeror worm yesterday) and read up on some BPRD Members, but there is definitly more room for expansions. I know there is a bigger arc coming later in the Main-story about witches, because of the coming Hellboy Reboot Movie which will focus on the "rise of the bloodqueen".


btw. That "Pamcake"-Hellboy is pretty much just for fun, even his comic-story is. (but it's a very good one for what it is!)
There are quite a lot Ks-exclusives coming I presume (all Supportagents will get KS-exclusive sculpts and there are at least 5 of them/ see 2nd demo video/ the 1:47 one).
I m not quite sure if i like it. I pretty much respected Mantic for not overdoing the KS-exclusives like some other other companies do.
I just hope they don t do it with some essential gamepieces like Lobster Johnson.

Aeneades wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
That is seriously a lot of stuff in the base pledge already...

They mentioned in one of the blogs that they wanted to make certain that the opening offer was a good deal without the need for fake stretch goals. We may see less stretch goals than usual because of this but I appreciate the up front value and honesty.

I'll second that sentiment very much.

There is apparently only one more Kickstarter alternate sculpt to be revealed, everything else will be new content.

They did say that if there was demand for an alternate sculpt for a specific model by the backers then they would be considered.

Wow, this one is going nuts, probably going to be Mantic's biggest kickstarter, in dollar terms it's already over $750k half a day after launch.

I'm not familiar with the source material, so won't be going in on it, but it does look like they've done a lot of stuff right this time, huge pile of minis on day 1. Think they might need some alternate sculpts for some of the minions though.

I'm interested in the beasts and monsters set for general gaming, hopefully those get expanded a bit with different monsters since at the moment it's 30 minis and 6 sculpts. Having bat swarms, werewolves and other horror staples all in one set is really great.

Aeneades wrote:
There is apparently only one more Kickstarter alternate sculpt to be revealed, everything else will be new content.

They did say that if there was demand for an alternate sculpt for a specific model by the backers then they would be considered.

That's good to hear.

I'll be glad when we're through the extra scenarios and extra dice goals...

Complete list of goals unlocked so far (includes some not posted here previously).



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And teaser for what’s next -

Does anyone know whether or not Mantic's quality has improved over time? I backed their old Kings of War campaign and the undead army I got was pretty bad. The scale was significantly smaller than most competitors and the details were soft with tons of really bad mold lines. I ended up giving half the army away and dumping the rest in the trash.

Do we have any confidence that this will be better? The only thing I'm seeing seems to be what are presumably painted resin masters and CG sculpts... neither of which help me know what production minis will look like.

If they do it like they did the Walking Dead, then the quality will be pretty good.

These are going to be same quality as Walking Dead which I have been extremely happy with.

Aeneades wrote:
These are going to be same quality as Walking Dead which I have been extremely happy with.

I'll have to check out Walking Dead. Mantic's quality left such a bad taste in my mouth from previous attempts that I've just been automatically dismissing anything new they put out.

It is so refreshing to be part of a campaign where the creators actually listen to backer feedback (see the dice change). Also, as an extra bonus:the comments section so far seems to have avoided becoming a group chat for regulars filling it up with endless inside jokes and inanities.

Kriswall wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
These are going to be same quality as Walking Dead which I have been extremely happy with.

I'll have to check out Walking Dead. Mantic's quality left such a bad taste in my mouth from previous attempts that I've just been automatically dismissing anything new they put out.

Same here - but I have heard that their "Walking Dead" miniatures were certainly the best they've done to date.

Slight problem being that a campaign they ran after that one had some not so great PVC quality minis. Star Saga, was it?

Fingers crossed here.

Gallahad wrote:It is so refreshing to be part of a campaign where the creators actually listen to backer feedback (see the dice change). Also, as an extra bonus:the comments section so far seems to have avoided becoming a group chat for regulars filling it up with endless inside jokes and inanities.

I'm glad this KS campaign's comments section is better, as most popular ones are absolutely useless.

I think I read somewhere though that there's a fair bit of Cow Clamoring in this one though?

 Kriswall wrote:
Do we have any confidence that this will be better? The only thing I'm seeing seems to be what are presumably painted resin masters and CG sculpts... neither of which help me know what production minis will look like.

Mostly "yes" that their quality has improved leaps and bounds over the old KOW, but they've also proven they can still backslide. As others have mentioned, walking dead has so far been their high water mark whereas the more recent Star Saga was more hit and miss. I have both and I think the physical PVC is the same between the two games, but Walking dead had simpler, thicker detailing cast in grey plastic. The Star Saga figures (especially the marines) were much busier detail wise and they went with red and blue plastic, which made them look (out of the box) worse than walking dead. To be fair, once you got some primer on the Star Saga figures they looked much better. Then there is the terrible warped furniture they put in the Star Saga box. With hot water most of it straightened out and looked decent, but again out of the box it was awful stuff.

I can't find it now but somewhere either earlier in this thread or over in the Warpath thread, someone affiliated with Mantic said their aiming to go back to Walking Dead style (thicker details in grey plastic) for this campaign. Be wary if they start throwing furniture in to the pledges.

...so if the Kitchen Sink appears, we're in trouble?

 Kriswall wrote:
and dumping the rest in the trash.

Why would you just... announce that to a bunch of strangers?