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Also, it always seemed like the mods saying "take it to the subforums" might as well have been saying "stop discussing it", considering the Infinity subforum here is where conversations go to die. Always knda rankled me, especially when we were discussing new units and how they might fit into the game and change the game, just like we are here with the new Ariadna profiles.

They may or may not overlap, but I know with all this ambush camo and minelayers floating about TAK, I'm really going to need to start taking Sensor units.

 Kalamadea wrote:
Also, it always seemed like the mods saying "take it to the subforums" might as well have been saying "stop discussing it", considering the Infinity subforum here is where conversations go to die. Always knda rankled me, especially when we were discussing new units and how they might fit into the game and change the game, just like we are here with the new Ariadna profiles.

They may or may not overlap, but I know with all this ambush camo and minelayers floating about TAK, I'm really going to need to start taking Sensor units.

I think the idea is that this is supposed to be discussing the new items, specifically, but there's nothing stopping someone from making a thread in the Infinity subforum concerning tactics or ways to counter the new items.

I'm not a mod, but one of the important things to consider is that the way to get discussion going in the Infinity subforum is to get discussion going in the Infinity subforum.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
Also, it always seemed like the mods saying "take it to the subforums" might as well have been saying "stop discussing it", considering the Infinity subforum here is where conversations go to die. Always knda rankled me, especially when we were discussing new units and how they might fit into the game and change the game, just like we are here with the new Ariadna profiles.

They may or may not overlap, but I know with all this ambush camo and minelayers floating about TAK, I'm really going to need to start taking Sensor units.

I think the idea is that this is supposed to be discussing the new items, specifically, but there's nothing stopping someone from making a thread in the Infinity subforum concerning tactics or ways to counter the new items.

I'm not a mod, but one of the important things to consider is that the way to get discussion going in the Infinity subforum is to get discussion going in the Infinity subforum.

“News//Rumor” forums always devolve into tangential rants. This group always silences the noise on its own when real news events drop.
I enjoy the banter, so I’m glad the mods have backed off lately,

 jake wrote:

Spoiler:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 firmlog wrote:
https://forum.corvusbelli.com

you register for it on the corvus belli website.

They were being sarcastic, i.e. saying take the non news and rumours discussion to the Infinity subforum.

I feel like we're all specifically talking about the new releases that we just learned about (and which information is still coming out about). Isn't that explicitly what this thread is for?

Jake, you do not need to preface every post with "I feel like" . In this case we are specifically talking about new profiles, ie. news, and how they affect the game. No need for any kind of word-shield.

If the comments continue, yes, better to carry it on in a thread in the Infinity sub-forums.

The GenCon seminar on August 4th is at 11:00 am Indiana time, which is currently the same as EST or GMT-4 for those of you outside of the US. I do not know who will be streaming it this year, but some one will. Book announcement?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
“News//Rumor” forums always devolve into tangential rants. This group always silences the noise on its own when real news events drop.
I enjoy the banter, so I’m glad the mods have backed off lately,

Exactly, this thread has always been pretty civilized. Even when me and Kan are calling each other profoundly wrong or we fundamentally disagree with each other, it's never devolved the way many other news threads have, this thread still maintains the original intent of discussing new events in Infinity. I'm very glad Alpharius has been a bit hands-off, recently we've had some really good discussions, yet rarely strayed too far before new news brings us back on point

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm not a mod, but one of the important things to consider is that the way to get a discussion going in the Infinity subforum is to get a discussion going in the Infinity subforum.

Precisely.

...
- > Need a new blood pumping in the general subforum to live it up.
-> No one posts in the general subforum, because of how dull it is.
...

It's similar problem with establishing a community, no one is willing to jump in until they're certain they'll have enough people/content to enjoy themselves. Honestly, as someone that helped in the initial building of infinity scene (now merrily dead, although there's alleged warcore person), this is my other point of view. It's unlikely to change people's behavior, we're rather stubborn about it, all you can do is do your work and hope the stars will one-day align.

There's really no point of Infinity subforum if it gets one new topic in a month, might as well move the discussion in Misc. Other miniature games. It might not be the worst idea, my experience indicates a pattern that when you have a small group of people it's better to have one and less focused thread where the discussion is being kept alive. The content doesn't matter as much, as much as it gives the appearance of life. On the other hand, I don't think people realize what a nice position it is to have its own little corner to anchor various content.

Maybe the issue is that CB has its own fairly well-appointed forum, so if I'm motivated enough to break down into discussions about specific topics I'm more likely to head there than the Dakka subforum. Whereas this thread does a good job of being an ongoing broad discussion about the game that quickly hots up when news comes along. The tangents do fizzle out here (or disappear completely when major news hits like Coldfront).

A forum they wanted to kill and is known to have close to 0 moderation.

Anyway, looking through the eyes of consumer/player that's what's likely going to happen. You'll be drawn to where the discussion/content is created. The question is if you want to see discussion/content on Dakka or you're simply indifferent to the place.

Some one asked in here about the Raicho parts. Mine came in today.

...the shield and arm is one part. The gun, arm and pelt are also one part. Separating those parts will take sawing and sculpting skills.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Some one asked in here about the Raicho parts. Mine came in today.

...the shield and arm is one part. The gun, arm and pelt are also one part. Separating those parts will take sawing and sculpting skills.

I just posted this thread talking about converting or possibly commissioning a 3D sculpt of an alt set of Raicho arms.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/761229.page#10085424

Actually i saw someone on the official forums wondering where Kan was and saying that they missed him.

 Micky wrote:
Actually i saw someone on the official forums wondering where Kan was and saying that they missed him.

I get that on occasion. There's a few people I've missed discussing things with enough to make me reregister, even with the moderation team they currently have...

Any rumors about how the reveals will play out between GenCon and Interplanetario? I don't see Bostria stepping on the sales of Operation:Coldfront at GenCon by talking much about the forthcoming sectorials, at least at GenCon. Maybe a previews of the Vedic and TAK sectorial lists? Certainly renders of new TAK and Vedic minis.

 Red Harvest wrote:
Any rumors about how the reveals will play out between GenCon and Interplanetario? I don't see Bostria stepping on the sales of Operation:Coldfront at GenCon by talking much about the forthcoming sectorials, at least at GenCon. Maybe a previews of the Vedic and TAK sectorial lists? Certainly renders of new TAK and Vedic minis.

I'm guessing GenCon will see:
Coldfront discussion
Beyond Coldfront renders(remember: we only saw TAK's side of things!)
September/October/November schedules
Renders for some of those releases


Previews of the Vedic and TAK Sectorial lists are iffy.

Rasyat sniper shot might be expanded upon (if it was really a Rasyat)

 The Infinite wrote:
Rasyat sniper shot might be expanded upon (if it was really a Rasyat)

It matches the Rasyat concept art exactly so it’s a pretty safe bet.

Some of the Coldfront profiles are in the Army app!

 Modock wrote:
Some of the Coldfront profiles are in the Army app!

For those interested in points values of the Ariadna side (including the Strelok+K9 and Wardriver):
Ariadna
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9
RATNIK Heavy Rocket Launcher, Heavy Shotgun / Heavy Pistol, Trench-hammer, Knife. (2 | 44)
SCOUT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
TANKHUNTER AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
STRELOK K-9 Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines + 1 K-9 Antipode / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 24)
K-9 ANTIPODE Trench-hammer, AP CC Weapon. (8)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
WARDRIVER Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)

4 SWC | 201 Points

Open in Infinity Army

Here's the ALEPH side of things:
ALEPH
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8
YADU Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, E/Marat, Drop Bears (Throwing Weapon) / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
ASURA Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 78)
DEVA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
NAGA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)

2 SWC | 235 Points

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Shock Army of Acontecimento
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2
DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)
DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, E/M Grenade / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)

0 SWC | 68 Points

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Both Skirmishers(Nagas and now Dart) in the premiere PanO skirmishing force are ALEPH...

Yeah yeah yeah, she was/is a PanO citizen but still.

Thanks for that!

Any word on what’s special about the Trench-Hammer?

 Mysterio wrote:
Thanks for that!

Any word on what’s special about the Trench-Hammer?

Its a DA CCW that can be used as a DA STR 13 Thrown weapon (+0 range 0-8). Both modes have Disposable 3.

Both profiles share the disposable trait.

That’s kinda disappointing. Disposable is a big downside and the profile doesn’t make up for it. At least it should be explosive.

 Grey Templar wrote:
That’s kinda disappointing. Disposable is a big downside and the profile doesn’t make up for it. At least it should be explosive.

Oh please. Like there's going to be a TAK list without Traktor Muls.


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 Mysterio wrote:
Thanks for that!

Any word on what’s special about the Trench-Hammer?

It's a gimmicky thing to go "Haha!" with.

 Grey Templar wrote:
That’s kinda disappointing. Disposable is a big downside and the profile doesn’t make up for it. At least it should be explosive.

It's a DAM 15 DA weapon from an 8 point, CC 20 camo marker using surprise attack.
Forget the Ratnik, it's the Strelok where it shines (where it hits on 15s from a model you otherwise want to ignore as the high burst is coming from the other one).

 Grey Templar wrote:
That’s kinda disappointing. Disposable is a big downside and the profile doesn’t make up for it. At least it should be explosive.

You say that, but A: are you ever gonna use a CCW on a non-CC model more than once or twice, and B: It's the only CCW in the entire Ariadnan faction that's got DA and Antimaterial besides the EXP CCW that Wallace is carrying - every single other CCW is AP or worse.

 Micky wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
That’s kinda disappointing. Disposable is a big downside and the profile doesn’t make up for it. At least it should be explosive.

You say that, but A: are you ever gonna use a CCW on a non-CC model more than once or twice, and B: It's the only CCW in the entire Ariadnan faction that's got DA and Antimaterial besides the EXP CCW that Wallace is carrying - every single other CCW is AP or worse.

The unknown ranger has a T2 CCW that's antimaterial

Right. So as it stands, thats one antimaterial CCW in each sectorial besides MRRF, and TAK has it on generic troops rather than unique characters.
(This is obviously not including d-charges).

Anyway. Besides smacking up AC/2s, how often are you gonna be using all three charges of the hammer?

I could see the Antipode doing it, since it actually gives him a decent ranged weapon. Effective BS20 is actually an interesting option. Better than melee against a CC specialist.

Granted, Antipodes out of camo tend to die rapidly. So it may not come up all the time, but I can see it happening enough to be annoying. Especially considering how... huge the hammer is. You'd think it would be more impressive.

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Raizot is a big beasty, and also weighty.


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I had it on pre-order

No more tiny crotch arms!