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 LunarSol wrote:
More excuses to randomly expand on Nomads.... not what I need, but...

More excuses to not actually balance Sectorials properly on CB's part.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
More excuses to randomly expand on Nomads.... not what I need, but...

More excuses to not actually balance Sectorials properly on CB's part.

Oh.... k? You can sure find the cloud in every silver lining, eh?

 LunarSol wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
More excuses to randomly expand on Nomads.... not what I need, but...

More excuses to not actually balance Sectorials properly on CB's part.

Oh.... k? You can sure find the cloud in every silver lining, eh?

You see a reason to expand Nomads on your part--I see another lackluster cashgrab on CB's part. That's all most of these NA2 forces have been quite frankly.

JSA, obviously, is the exception to the rule.

Mostly it seems like they're just trying to make armies for the Mercenary models without just taking every model released under the Mercenary banner and calling it a design. I think for the most part they've been handled pretty well, with Ikari standing out as something that's both kind of redundant and doesn't quite do enough to make an approximation of old YJ+JSA armies. Druze feels good and JSA is obviously thought through. StarCo seemed like a good CJC redesign, but now that that's actually happening I'm curious to see how they match up before deciding what I think to be honest.

Came to check if you guys can get it postive... and all I see is whining it's official I'm definitely not posting things here anymore after this....

there's no discussion about the rules
There's no discussion about how cool some of these new models are
There's no discussion about possible interest in these models or new factions
The idea that you can run Pano and Nomads together in one faction...
So yeah I am most definitely not going to post anymore I took a break for about 3 years and came back to the same faces with the same complaints and 0 positive input

I think it's time for me to take another three-year break...
I can't stand a level of armchair experts , whiny whiny whinyersons, and it's always been like that here on Dakka. it's never really been a positive Forum like ever

as far as actively contributing to the forms, taking screenshots, posting pictures etc, I'm good I'll go over to the Infinity forums and put my energy into that group instead
Anyone who's a real fan might want to spend a little more time posting over there it's a lot more positive! helpful folks
its actually a good group of people.

Dakka is a toxic cesspit

I really suggest any true Infinity fans bail on this place entirely it's never change this place has been around since Warseer... really should change from Dakka to Whiny Troll City

Enjoy the daily toxicity

You guys can catch me over at the infinity forums

DustGod Out

Sadly, the Official Infinity Forums are...not a great place.

I'm very happy when I see info from there ported over here so I...don't have to go there.

Anyway, good bye, good luck and god speed!

 5deadly wrote:
Came to check if you guys can get it postive... and all I see is whining it's official I'm definitely not posting things here anymore after this....

there's no discussion about the rules
There's no discussion about how cool some of these new models are
There's no discussion about possible interest in these models or new factions
The idea that you can run Pano and Nomads together in one faction...
So yeah I am most definitely not going to post anymore I took a break for about 3 years and came back to the same faces with the same complaints and 0 positive input

I think it's time for me to take another three-year break...
I can't stand a level of armchair experts , whiny whiny whinyersons, and it's always been like that here on Dakka. it's never really been a positive Forum like ever

as far as actively contributing to the forms, taking screenshots, posting pictures etc, I'm good I'll go over to the Infinity forums and put my energy into that group instead
Anyone who's a real fan might want to spend a little more time posting over there it's a lot more positive! helpful folks
its actually a good group of people.

Dakka is a toxic cesspit

I really suggest any true Infinity fans bail on this place entirely it's never change this place has been around since Warseer... really should change from Dakka to Whiny Troll City

Enjoy the daily toxicity

You guys can catch me over at the infinity forums

DustGod Out

The official infinity forums make Warseer look like a bastion of freedom and even handed moderation free of thought police and subservient corporate group think. (Yes I know it's an official forum ran by CB but if you have spent any time there you know what I mean)

I haven't kept up with all the news but I saw some of the Shasvastii previews. Do we have a time fram yet for when they will start releasing the new stuff? Before summer, summer, fall, next year etc?

The new Shasvastii? Not yet mentioned. Most likely is pre-orderable right before GenCon, so mid-July, and available late September. CB may trickle a few out early. I doubt this.

Ok thanks.

Eh, I don't mind the official forum but maybe it's because when I'm there (which granted hasn't been a while) I'm mostly in the hobby section.

But what I find really funny is a lot of people in this thread post there and all the discussions that happen here also happen there as Psychotic Storm can attest. So I really don't know what he's going on about.

Anyway. Anyone know when CB's Adepticon seminar is? Assuming it's on a Saturday like they tend to do. I figure Carlos would not be talking up the possibility of the new game being announced there if there wasn't a pretty good chance of it actually happening.

As for Shasvastii, they haven't even shown renders yet as when that video was recorded it hadn't started yet. I would wager that if we don't see renders at Adepticon they might be winter release.

Do the Shasvasti have a sectoral at the moment, will it be replaced, or did they just release one?

The new art is very intriguing, I’m excited to see the renders.

 Mastiff wrote:
Do the Shasvasti have a sectoral at the moment, will it be replaced, or did they just release one?

The new art is very intriguing, I’m excited to see the renders.

They have one currently that’s being revamped, the new one is out on the 27th (I think) with the other new stuff (Ramah, Spiral Corps etc).

Great, thanks for the quick answer!




...and that’s why I hang around Dakka after 20 years.

The 27th is when all the new goodies show up in the Army Builder, but I suspect that Bostria's Adepticon seminar on the 30th will be when we get a bigger glimpse of the the new Shasvastii. Renders to go with the concept art we just saw.

I'm wondering if that may be the GenCon pre-order release, a Shasvastii army box. I doubt we'll see a 2 army box this year. CB has not even released the ALEPH and Kazak starter boxes separate from Coldfront yet.

NA2 is CB's way of leaving a path open to add new sectorials, given that the main factions are almost full. Less of a cash grab and more of a way of *opening design space* And with this new Foreign Company, a way to sell even more Bolts.

 Red Harvest wrote:
The 27th is when all the new goodies show up in the Army Builder, but I suspect that Bostria's Adepticon seminar on the 30th will be when we get a bigger glimpse of the the new Shasvastii. Renders to go with the concept art we just saw.

I'm wondering if that may be the GenCon pre-order release, a Shasvastii army box. I doubt we'll see a 2 army box this year. CB has not even released the ALEPH and Kazak starter boxes separate from Coldfront yet.

NA2 is CB's way of leaving a path open to add new sectorials, given that the main factions are almost full. Less of a cash grab and more of a way of *opening design space* And with this new Foreign Company, a way to sell even more Bolts.

In their ‘what’s coming in 2019’ article, they said there was a battle box coming at GenCon, and on their web store, battlebox is how they refer to the 2 player starters.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
More excuses to randomly expand on Nomads.... not what I need, but...

More excuses to not actually balance Sectorials properly on CB's part.

Oh.... k? You can sure find the cloud in every silver lining, eh?

Yes, it's clearly Kanluwen's specialty.

My friend is really eager to see the new Shavastii models. I am too, for the few that work in the Onyx Contact Force.

 5deadly wrote:
Came to check if you guys can get it postive... and all I see is whining it's official I'm definitely not posting things here anymore after this....

there's no discussion about the rules
There's no discussion about how cool some of these new models are
There's no discussion about possible interest in these models or new factions
The idea that you can run Pano and Nomads together in one faction...
So yeah I am most definitely not going to post anymore I took a break for about 3 years and came back to the same faces with the same complaints and 0 positive input

I think it's time for me to take another three-year break...
I can't stand a level of armchair experts , whiny whiny whinyersons, and it's always been like that here on Dakka. it's never really been a positive Forum like ever

as far as actively contributing to the forms, taking screenshots, posting pictures etc, I'm good I'll go over to the Infinity forums and put my energy into that group instead
Anyone who's a real fan might want to spend a little more time posting over there it's a lot more positive! helpful folks
its actually a good group of people.

Dakka is a toxic cesspit

I really suggest any true Infinity fans bail on this place entirely it's never change this place has been around since Warseer... really should change from Dakka to Whiny Troll City

Enjoy the daily toxicity

You guys can catch me over at the infinity forums

DustGod Out

Dakka is more positive than the various faction groups that I am apart of on Facebook. Dakka is also more positive than a lot of the official English forums.

ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

 5deadly wrote:
Came to check if you guys can get it postive... and all I see is whining it's official I'm definitely not posting things here anymore after this....

there's no discussion about the rules
There's no discussion about how cool some of these new models are
There's no discussion about possible interest in these models or new factions
The idea that you can run Pano and Nomads together in one faction...
So yeah I am most definitely not going to post anymore I took a break for about 3 years and came back to the same faces with the same complaints and 0 positive input

I think it's time for me to take another three-year break...
I can't stand a level of armchair experts , whiny whiny whinyersons, and it's always been like that here on Dakka. it's never really been a positive Forum like ever

as far as actively contributing to the forms, taking screenshots, posting pictures etc, I'm good I'll go over to the Infinity forums and put my energy into that group instead
Anyone who's a real fan might want to spend a little more time posting over there it's a lot more positive! helpful folks
its actually a good group of people.

Dakka is a toxic cesspit

I really suggest any true Infinity fans bail on this place entirely it's never change this place has been around since Warseer... really should change from Dakka to Whiny Troll City

Enjoy the daily toxicity

You guys can catch me over at the infinity forums

DustGod Out

Ironically, this is the most negative post I've ever read in this thread.

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Shasvastii vs Tohaa would have been perfect -- especially with Spiral being the anti Shas merc company but for some reason they didn't do that. Either their going to have another NA2 in the box or they're going to restart over with Nomads or Pan0 and just have a Sectorial in there.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Shasvastii vs Tohaa would have been perfect -- especially with Spiral being the anti Shas merc company but for some reason they didn't do that. Either their going to have another NA2 in the box or they're going to restart over with Nomads or Pan0 and just have a Sectorial in there.

I read somewhere that human factions are the big seller so they want to include at least one in a box to boost marketability.

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Qapu Khalqi.

I posted it up during the runup for Coldfront but we could seriously have gotten better theme and balance if they'd done Druze related sets instead of ALEPH.

 .Mikes. wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Shasvastii vs Tohaa would have been perfect -- especially with Spiral being the anti Shas merc company but for some reason they didn't do that. Either their going to have another NA2 in the box or they're going to restart over with Nomads or Pan0 and just have a Sectorial in there.

I read somewhere that human factions are the big seller so they want to include at least one in a box to boost marketability.

I remember that. I figure, however, two big alien factions getting reworks/designs might be enough to be a good seller.

 .Mikes. wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Shasvastii vs Tohaa would have been perfect -- especially with Spiral being the anti Shas merc company but for some reason they didn't do that. Either their going to have another NA2 in the box or they're going to restart over with Nomads or Pan0 and just have a Sectorial in there.

I read somewhere that human factions are the big seller so they want to include at least one in a box to boost marketability.

Thats a kinda dumb metric to gauge sales by. 85% of the factions(if we hold sectorials and the vanilla option to each be their own) are human.

Frankly, for a sci-fi game Infinity has a lot of humans. Even GW with their 10 million flavors of Space Marines has more aliens than Infinity does.

Probably a pipe dream but Shas vs CJC Nomads would be an instant buy. Difficult since they are already in Ice Storm but could include new Wildcats, new Intruder, new Moran, and new remotes in the beyond packs.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
ImaGeek, I had nor read that article. Odd to release a Battle box so soon after Coldfront. Shasvastii and ??? What's left that can use a new starter?

Shasvastii vs Tohaa would have been perfect -- especially with Spiral being the anti Shas merc company but for some reason they didn't do that. Either their going to have another NA2 in the box or they're going to restart over with Nomads or Pan0 and just have a Sectorial in there.

I read somewhere that human factions are the big seller so they want to include at least one in a box to boost marketability.

I remember that. I figure, however, two big alien factions getting reworks/designs might be enough to be a good seller.

I think so too, but when it comes to financial decisions like this for small companies caution often comes into it.

I just pre-ordered Daedalus Fall, the Spiral Corps starter and the new ITS pack with Victor Messer and Aida Swanson.

Looking to split a few minis from Spiral Corps to keep the cost down, so if you are interested in something in particular, send me a message. Postage will be calculated from EU.

Any state side retailers offering the same deal as CB for pre-ordering it all and getting all three figures? I figured waiting a week would give them enough time to throw up the pre-orders but I haven't seen anything yet.

I don't think any US retailers have offered this type of bundle in the past. They deal has been direct from CB or at the Con.

Corregidor v. Shasvastii in a battle box seems most likely to me. Nomads are, unfathomably, a very popular faction. The lure of a new CJC starter might be enough to overcome the usually poorer selling Aliens.