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 Red Harvest wrote:
CB has already 'edited' their Yu Jing catalog page. Haramaki are no longer there. Haramaki look enough like the Domaru that they would proxy just fine.

Will Carlos/Bostria drop any bombshells at Adepticon, which is two weeks away? Something about the IA would do CB a world of wonders.

I'd rather see a Tunguskan Sectorial announcement...

Give me an Army Pack with:
Tunguska Starter(3x Grenzers 1 with Deployable Repeater/FO and the other 2 with CR+LFT, 1x Securitate Hacker, 1x Spektr with MSR, Hollow Man)
Booklet and scenery
A set of Tactical Puppets
Grenzer SpecOps
Kriza Borac with HMG and Kriza Borac with MULTI Rifle

I'll buy not one, but two if the sculpts are good enough.

No mention of getting the bikes...

Chairman Aeon wrote:
No mention of getting the bikes...

The bikes are AVA4 in JSA.

 Micky wrote:
I tend to think that when they say stuff like "it'll be a tough year", CB tend to have this fluff-centric way of talking, talking like its a living game where story comes first, that don’t really translate so well to the concerns of people who primarily play ITS style stuff and don't engage with the in-universe story all that much.

On that note, they have already teased the IA a tiny bit (those comments about the invinicble army being mobilised the fight the rebellion).

And Carlos also flat out said ISS is getting releases later in the year.

Carlos said in the BoW profiles video:
A) yu Jing will be getting a new sectorial to take up that empty slot.
B) ISS will be getting new releases this year. I would think new profiles? Not many existing ISS profiles are missing minis.

Now, Carlos said it in his usual *wink wink nudge nudge* manner. Considering he flat out said 4 new sectorials coming after this I would feel pretty safe assuming IA will be out this year. Presumably they are a big part of the uprising story which will be kicking major changes in the developing infinity lore.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
CB has already 'edited' their Yu Jing catalog page. Haramaki are no longer there. Haramaki look enough like the Domaru that they would proxy just fine.

Will Carlos/Bostria drop any bombshells at Adepticon, which is two weeks away? Something about the IA would do CB a world of wonders.

I'd rather see a Tunguskan Sectorial announcement...

Give me an Army Pack with:
Tunguska Starter(3x Grenzers 1 with Deployable Repeater/FO and the other 2 with CR+LFT, 1x Securitate Hacker, 1x Spektr with MSR, Kriza Borac with MULTI Rifle)
Booklet and scenery
A set of Hollow Men
Grenzer SpecOps
Kriza Borac with HMG

I'll buy not one, but two if the sculpts are good enough.

Aren't securitate their line troops? I would expect 3 of them in a starter.
They have the potential to be a very effective unit.

So where are the updates to Bolts? Aquila Guard? Swiss Guard? How about Auxilia? PanO's been told that they have to wait for new ORC profiles that will be "Varuna exclusive" to see a flipping ORC box at this point.

Well apart of those, what profiles are still in a bad spot?

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:

Aren't securitate their line troops? I would expect 3 of them in a starter.
They have the potential to be a very effective unit.

Securitate are expected to be their Linkable Line Troops...but they already are sitting at 23 points for the cheapest(Combi Rifle only) profile thanks to their Repeaters and Sixth Sense L2.
They're in a strange place since them being the Linkable Line Troops would necessitate gutting the profile or doing something similarly brash to get them down to parity with most other 'Line Troops' that are able to be Linked.

I will say that I suspect they are going to be Tunguska's equivalent of the Danavas Hackers(which, interestingly enough, are Line Troops!) or Nexus Operatives. Hollow Men have long been rumored to be a Unidron/Dakini-esque unit and it would not be out of place for them to maybe have Triad, Duo, or Haris to allow for them to be 'teamed up' with a Securitate--much like Nexus can with Unidrons or the Danavas Hackers likely will be able to with Dakini Tactbots.

I fully expect Grenzers to be intended as the 'muscle' of the Sectorial, like Bolts were intended to for NCA(hence their AVA Total status). Whether or not they'll be successful in that role? That's up for debate.

I'd also expect Grenzers to be filling the 3 piece slot in the Tunguskan box since they've got a few profiles that have Combi+LFTs(LT and 'Basic') and the MSR profile is in the Nomad Starter set(which most people have bought by this point--and it includes the Spektr with Combi Rifle profile). That would leave either blisters or a box for the following:
Grenzer with Spitfire
Grenzer with Missile Launcher
Grenzer with Boarding Shotgun
Grenzer(Forward Observer) with Deployable Repeater, Combi Rifle+LFT.

Securitate on the other hand are:
Combi Rifle+Light Shotgun(4 profiles--one of which is a Hacker and one is the Paramedic)
HMG
MULTI Sniper Rifle

You could fill that out with a single Securitate box fairly easily like they did with the Bagh-Mari, especially if we see a reduced AVA for Securitate in the Tunguskan Sectorial/Vanilla once the list finally hits.

They're pretty free to do whatever they want with Securitate. They don't realistically exist in the game currently in any way that matters.

 LunarSol wrote:
They're pretty free to do whatever they want with Securitate. They don't realistically exist in the game currently in any way that matters.

Which is exactly my point. Right now everyone expects this to just be another CJC or Bakunin. Every indication we've had suggests that won't be the case. Kriza Borac are supposed to be AVA2 tops in Tunguska with Duo as an option. They were supposed to get an HRL option(we saw it on the dossier when they got revealed), but that's been dropped since. We don't know what "Hollow Men" are(everyone keeps jumping right to "Holoprojectors") aside from them having Structure Points instead of Wounds.

What’s the deal with the Kaizoku Spec-Ops? Is that a static profile?

Or is that one of those pick and choose guys?
Lord, where are the rules for that even found?

It’s an awesome model, I really hope it’s not one of those “build your own kit”. guys.

 Kanluwen wrote:

The bikes are AVA4 in JSA.

No, Carlos never said to grab bikers. In the design video he admits that bike miniatures are being redone.

1) I didn't know that

2) Your post looked more like you thought bikes weren't in JSA anymore

I wonder who Mu sashi gets to link with.

 Alpharius wrote:
1) I didn't know that

Was weird on the beyond the army box that Aragoto were not mentioned. Then in the follow up video he said he hopes the new bikes would be out in 2018.

 Alpharius wrote:
2) Your post looked more like you thought bikes weren't in JSA anymore

Lazy phone posting, my bad. Never quoted the post about things to get after you get the army box.

 jake wrote:
I wonder who Mu sashi gets to link with.

The Haramaki replacement.


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 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
What’s the deal with the Kaizoku Spec-Ops? Is that a static profile?

Or is that one of those pick and choose guys?
Lord, where are the rules for that even found?

It’s an awesome model, I really hope it’s not one of those “build your own kit”. guys.

Anything that says "Spec-Ops" in the name is one of the 'build your own kit' guys.
Rules for those would be in the replacement version of Paradiso, or at least that was the idea. They might be in Uprising since it has all of the Dire Foes and their special scenarios though.

Chairman Aeon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

The bikes are AVA4 in JSA.

No, Carlos never said to grab bikers. In the design video he admits that bike miniatures are being redone.

Bikers arent even in their online catalog anymore. So they might be very soon if someone hasn't removed them by mistake.

I guess it's no coincidence that the most recent JSA bike to be released was Yojimbo which didn't even have the Aragoto bike design; he had Penthesilea's Aleph bike. Even the Authorized Bounty Hunter had the Aleph bike.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jake wrote:
I wonder who Mu sashi gets to link with.

The Haramaki replacement.


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 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
What’s the deal with the Kaizoku Spec-Ops? Is that a static profile?

Or is that one of those pick and choose guys?
Lord, where are the rules for that even found?

It’s an awesome model, I really hope it’s not one of those “build your own kit”. guys.

Anything that says "Spec-Ops" in the name is one of the 'build your own kit' guys.
Rules for those would be in the replacement version of Paradiso, or at least that was the idea. They might be in Uprising since it has all of the Dire Foes and their special scenarios though.

I hope that’s the case & everything to use them is in the new book.
Paradiso was a long time ago & you can’t really use them now. Lord knows that campaign is too damned complicated to pull off under normal circumstances.

But the build your own guys only sell one mini. Dire Foes will sell 3 minis. I don't expect updated Spec Ops rules in the uprising book. Sectorials and associated new rules, unit backgrounds, more on current events in the human Sphere, the Dire Foes storyline, updated Dire Foes, except Bipandra, por supuesto and some nice artwork.

 Red Harvest wrote:
But the build your own guys only sell one mini. Dire Foes will sell 3 minis. I don't expect updated Spec Ops rules in the uprising book. Sectorials and associated new rules, unit backgrounds, more on current events in the human Sphere, the Dire Foes storyline, updated Dire Foes, except Bipandra, por supuesto and some nice artwork.

Everyone who wanted them already has the Dire Foes, IMO. Outside of a few standouts(Red Veil's in particular), most are "Meh".

Really kinda suspecting a soft-reboot of the spec-ops rules to be bundled into Uprising.

 Micky wrote:
Really kinda suspecting a soft-reboot of the spec-ops rules to be bundled into Uprising.

Paradiso N3, Micky. That's where that and a rework of the Campaign system are slated to be.

Will there actually be a Paradiso N3? As far as I recall, all the Paradiso units were in Human Sphere N3 and everything else was supposed to be in Acheron Falls (or the "next book after HSN3")

I imagine that instead of a new edition of Paradiso we might get a new book with campaign/spec ops rules that includes a reworked version of the Paradiso campaign as well as a new campaign.

or they may just decide that campaigns are better handled as events instead of as a focus of a book, and that the Spec Ops rules could be included somewhere else. Not that they really need to be. As it stands now they mostly just exist as an option for tournament play and their full rules could just be inserted into the ITS rules doc.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Will there actually be a Paradiso N3? As far as I recall, all the Paradiso units were in Human Sphere N3 and everything else was supposed to be in Acheron Falls (or the "next book after HSN3")

Supposedly, Acheron Falls(mwhahaha) since it's been pushed back will be featuring Svalarheima, etc--while Paradiso N3 was slated to have the next set of Sectorials(Varuna, Invincible Army, Tunguska, etc).

Acheron Falls is due for release just after Half Life 3.

 .Mikes. wrote:
Acheron Falls is due for release just after Half Life 3.

Ahhhhh!

Don't even joke like that!!!!

I would've thought that the Svalarheima stuff would be more popular that this - I mean, Jotums, amirite?!? - and would then mean we'd see them sooner rather than later!

 .Mikes. wrote:
Acheron Falls is due for release just after Half Life 3.

I can't remember, is that before or after Mechanoids® Space releases?

Something something Duke Nukem Forever...

Just a batrep today. Meh.

Well, we have a nice book and LE mini coming. We have a lot of angry Yu Jing players and a company that had no fethin' plan for calming them. Not good marketing at all, given that the anger distracted from the new JSA stuff. Never draw attention away from new products.

Adepticon in 2 weeks. A long time to let players fume.

 Alpharius wrote:


I would've thought that the Svalarheima stuff would be more popular that this - I mean, Jotums, amirite?!? - and would then mean we'd see them sooner rather than later!

I wonder... do you think those closed battle lists in Treason are part of a public beta, and/or are there to gauge interest? They know from their ITS / Army data what people are taking to events. If those Blizzard squads arent even being used at all they may decide to hold back due to lack of interest.

 Micky wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:


I would've thought that the Svalarheima stuff would be more popular that this - I mean, Jotums, amirite?!? - and would then mean we'd see them sooner rather than later!

I wonder... do you think those closed battle lists in Treason are part of a public beta, and/or are there to gauge interest? They know from their ITS / Army data what people are taking to events. If those Blizzard squads arent even being used at all they may decide to hold back due to lack of interest.

They were. The issue with the CBLs was that it also included some 'proxy' units.