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Tonhel wrote:
How reliable is the rumour that Dark Imperium will be discontinued and if true is there an ETA?

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
My source for the discontinuation of the Dark Imperium Box is extremely reliable.

Of plastic sisters I can make no comment.

I'm a stockist and Dark Imperium is no longer on the mandatory stockist list as of 1st of Jan 2018. I don't know if it has been discontinued or not but there has always been a mandatory "starter box" for stockists for the past 20 years. So regardless if the box is getting discontinued or not it does seem VERY likely that a new box is coming to replace is. My guess would be more fricken Spheezee Mehreenez vs xxx...

As for a Sisters box, about 6 months before the Genestealer Cults were revealed there was a rumour of a Sisters vs Unknown box. Don't remember where I read the rumour but it said it was Sisters vs an army that wasn't in the game at that time. Sisters vs Genestealer cult does make sense as there has been a few books and short stories released about the two fighting each other. Sisters are the least represented book range from BL but suddenly 2 books pop up with Sisters vs Genestealers?

 Verviedi wrote:
No chance of this happening, but I’m sure at least a thousand people will be posting grumpy rants on the internet when GW inevitably releases a new kind of even more elite Space Marine instead of Sisters.

I think that an actual codex and plastic SoB release will generate more grumpy rants among SoB players than the lack of plastic SoB and codex ever has. Too many unexpections and preconceived ideas for a release that will be aimed at attracting new SoB players and not at satisfying the handful of existing players.

 gorgon wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
No chance of this happening, but I’m sure at least a thousand people will be posting grumpy rants on the internet when GW inevitably releases a new kind of even more elite Space Marine instead of Sisters.

I think that an actual codex and plastic SoB release will generate more grumpy rants among SoB players than the lack of plastic SoB and codex ever has. Too many unexpections and preconceived ideas for a release that will be aimed at attracting new SoB players and not at satisfying the handful of existing players.

Rules wise maybe. There are always a number of people who complain if rules change. Models wise though, if they are of the same standard as Celestine and her buddies, I can’t imagine anyone being unhappy.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
No chance of this happening, but I’m sure at least a thousand people will be posting grumpy rants on the internet when GW inevitably releases a new kind of even more elite Space Marine instead of Sisters.

I think that an actual codex and plastic SoB release will generate more grumpy rants among SoB players than the lack of plastic SoB and codex ever has. Too many unexpections and preconceived ideas for a release that will be aimed at attracting new SoB players and not at satisfying the handful of existing players.

Rules wise maybe. There are always a number of people who complain if rules change. Models wise though, if they are of the same standard as Celestine and her buddies, I can’t imagine anyone being unhappy.

I can tell you're relatively new around here. A 2mm scale change should be enough to generate at least 5 pages of complaints and debate, before we even get to any new design concepts.

I dunno where people are getting the idea that Sisters are "generic" from. They have some generic elements as part of their overall design, sure, but so do the Stormcast Eternals who might as well be subtitled "Adeptus Trademarkicus".

Where are all these other instances of space-goth warrior nuns with handheld GMGs, bob haircuts, and power-corsets trotting around burninating heretics? Because the only ones I can think of are comparatively tiny third-party miniature makers emulating the existing SoB aesthetic - I've never seen anything like them in mainstream pop culture or in nerdy pop culture(disclaimer - I don't watch anime).

I have no doubt they'd look slightly different to - and be in a more modern scale than - the original metals, but that's just down to more modern tech and them being plastics, there's no rational reason they have to undergo a radical redesign even if you adopt modern GW's hyper-paranoid mindset over IP, the worst they'd have to suffer are some ridiculous new unit names.

 dan2026 wrote:
But didn't the special edition resin canoness and the Celestine triple pack sell like hot cakes too?
It seems to me like everyone is shouting for SOB. Even the GW store managers.

So where are they? Instead we have Custodes.
I can understand why people are frustrated and angry.
This dance has been going on for years.

Well celestine sold together with 2 other models so it's harder to estimate(though to be fair much of custodes sales are also hidden among MKIII marines). Anyway if they used that as measurement and decided because the "3 characters in 1 box" sold so well due to celestine that there's enough demand...Well if that's the moment they put in project sisters of battle release summer would be actually pretty feasible moment for release. So that would actually make this rumour stronger. Not that I have much faith of random GW worker knowing this far ahead. Generally they don't know any more than general hobbyists until last moment.

Wishlisting here but I'd be setting aside a fair amount of funds if there was even the slightest firm hint of Sisters. My nipper would be going barefoot to school if there was a Sanctuary 101 Starter or even boxed game like Overkill or Calth.

If there was a slight design change from my original metals I wouldn't be too bothered. Astartes have different armour marks.

Honestly if Dark Imperium is being "discontinued" it's probably just to take the huge rulebook out the box and replace it with a basic rules pamphlet so the price can be dropped.

 Fenris-77 wrote:
Much more importantly than begging, people actually bought Custodes in surprising quantities. GW cares very much about who's actually buying what, not so much about internet ranting.

Because they're brand-new modern plastics that have been well-designed, and also came bundled in a box with a lot of other new plastics that were sold for a bargain. Compared to GW expecting you to spend a whopping $80 on a single box of ten basic troop models that are literal decades out of date now, with no options, in a material that people don't like to work with, direct-only from GW so you get little to no discount on top of all that.

Not really a fair comparison. No one would buy Custodes either if they were sold in a similar fashion. In fact people would probably accuse GW of sabotaging the line and wanting it to fail if they tried.

alphaecho wrote:


Wishlisting here but I'd be setting aside a fair amount of funds if there was even the slightest firm hint of Sisters. My nipper would be going barefoot to school if there was a Sanctuary 101 Starter or even boxed game like Overkill or Calth.

If there was a slight design change from my original metals I wouldn't be too bothered. Astartes have different armour marks.

Yeah I have a large collection of GW sisters plus various non GW versions.

I still will be happy to immdiately drop a few hundred to get them on day one - maybe more if its a big range, that money is there waiting.

All I know is when the resin cannoness came out it was sold out so fast the GW page was on fire.

It took me ages to get one.

If that wasn't a wakeup for gw I don't not what will

AlexHolker wrote:

 Chamberlain wrote:
I think they'll need a redesign. Things have been getting more specific ever since the Chapter House case exposed just how generic and legally unprotectable most of their "IP" really was. Now we have Codex: Heretic Astartes and Codex: Astra Militarum. Aeldari? Something tells me space battle nuns using a French national symbol that is totally public domain isn't going to survive a similar review.

That is stupid, and whatever idiot at GW came up with it should have been fired. If you care whether your IP is protectable or not, why abandon it without a fight? All that means is that everyone except you gets to exploit the IP you have built up over decades, while you slink off empty handed.

That's so true!

The general appearance of Celestine in the Triumverate set gives me hope that I'm wrong about any possible future sisters changing that much.

I think Celestine and her pals are the biggest reason to believe that the plastic sisters are coming. They already have most of the CAD stuff done and can proceed to the money printing phase.

Next boxed set: Sisters v Orks

I would probably buy new SoB if they were released, and I would absolutely buy a starter set that included them. I collect all the starter sets, though.

Buuuut how many times have we heard that a Sisters release was imminent?

If there's a new starter, I want it to be Guard for Imperium. Every regiment needs updated infantry and static pose snapfit models are fine for Guard because the majority of their infantry carry lasguns. The problem is GW would pick Cadians again, when something like Steel Legion vs Orks would be fun.

That said, I wouldnt mind a Sisters vs GSC box as it would be the perfect excuse to start collecting both.

Sisters as the 'good' side in the starter set could be a good double whammy for GW. One, finally making good on new Sisters models and two, proving they are willing to not just put Space Marines in every starter set.

Sisters of Battle in a starter set, I believe is too wishlisting... if this was Fantasy, where starter had variety of armies, ok... but in 40k?

 Galas wrote:
Sisters of Battle in a starter set, I believe is too wishlisting... if this was Fantasy, where starter had variety of armies, ok... but in 40k?

If you're gonna dream, you gotta dream big!

2018, year of the Sisters.

Yeah... I've been sitting on that "plastic sisters are just around the bend" rumour for 10 years now...

It's not happening.

 Galas wrote:
Man... I really want to believe but... can't anybody post a leaked pic or something...? Like the one of the Primaris Marine nearly a year in advance that splited dakkadakka in half between "is legit" and "is a conversion"?

Yes lol, that would be really fun.

 Galas wrote:
Sisters of Battle in a starter set, I believe is too wishlisting... if this was Fantasy, where starter had variety of armies, ok... but in 40k?

Yeah, but this is *new* GW now. I think that we were officially told that GW is moving to a new release model, right? Where we will see multiple iterations of starter boxes (which we haven’t seen yet); mini releases no longer tied to codexes (which we have seen); and more narrative campaigns (which, again, we’ve already started to see).

Sisters in a starter would make great opponents for a number of potential foes. With Slaanesh coming out this year, sisters would make a good contrasting force. Piousness vs wanton excess.

Starter sets are mainly for... people who start. Sisters aren't a starter army, neither is GSC. It would be hazardous if not stupid for GW to do something like that.

That said, I could see them releasing a board game and later a codex, like they did with Overkill.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Starter sets are mainly for... people who start. Sisters aren't a starter army, neither is GSC. It would be hazardous if not stupid for GW to do something like that.

That said, I could see them releasing a board game and later a codex, like they did with Overkill.

Is either army really less of a "starter army" than Dark Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, CSM or Death Guard?

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Starter sets are mainly for... people who start. Sisters aren't a starter army, neither is GSC. It would be hazardous if not stupid for GW to do something like that.

That said, I could see them releasing a board game and later a codex, like they did with Overkill.

I'm curious, what armies would you say are "starter armies" other than vanilla marines? Guard?

 Luciferian wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Starter sets are mainly for... people who start. Sisters aren't a starter army, neither is GSC. It would be hazardous if not stupid for GW to do something like that.

That said, I could see them releasing a board game and later a codex, like they did with Overkill.

Is either army really less of a "starter army" than Dark Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, CSM or Death Guard?

Yes. DE and DG are a bit, well, 'special' too, but not that much. And keep in mind that a starter set will have Space Marines in it. So either we'll see a squad of Sisters alongside them (I doubt it) or not at all.

 Arachnofiend wrote:

I'm curious, what armies would you say are "starter armies" other than vanilla marines? Guard?

Tyranids, Orks, CSM, Daemons - maybe CWE and Tau too.

Plastic SoB vs plastic Aspect Warrior. Don't let your meme be dream

I was thinking more like the talons boxed set with Marines/Sisters vs Orks.

 Immortalized wrote:

Talking with a local GW person last night I mentioned that i am greatly anticipating plastic Sisters of Battle.

To my surprise he said at a store managers meeting/conference in October they brought them up. He said they told everyone that "We know plastic Sisters are one of the most asked for items, and while they cannot say anything right now, look to the Summer"

Has anyone else heard or seen this mentioned anywhere?

Could we have some rumor quality control here? We need some kind of sources for rumors or they're just hot air.

mononides wrote:

 Immortalized wrote:

Talking with a local GW person last night I mentioned that i am greatly anticipating plastic Sisters of Battle.

To my surprise he said at a store managers meeting/conference in October they brought them up. He said they told everyone that "We know plastic Sisters are one of the most asked for items, and while they cannot say anything right now, look to the Summer"

Has anyone else heard or seen this mentioned anywhere?

Could we have some rumor quality control here? We need some kind of sources for rumors or they're just hot air.

"Talking with a local GW person..."

Rumours don't need proper citations. That'd be news.