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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
No it was a troll and they were proud of it afterward and even lied by pretending they didn't say "of battle" while the video is still online and anyone can check that they did.

I love that you have that screenshot on hand.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
No it was a troll and they were proud of it afterward and even lied by pretending they didn't say "of battle" while the video is still online and anyone can check that they did.

I love that you have that screenshot on hand.

Well if your hobby is getting angry at toy soldier companies you probably accumulate a portfolio.

 Nostromodamus wrote:


Well if your hobby is getting angry at toy soldier companies you probably accumulate a portfolio.

Sisters Rage is an industry unto itself at this point.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Again though, we come back around to this: they managed to put out GSC, a faction I think it is fair to say had a significantly smaller "built in" fanbase than Sisters do even now, and it did well for them despite some issues like Aberrant availability and rules issues. I have yet to see a logical argument as to why they can do that - with absolutely no recent sales datapoints to back the initial decision at all - but would struggle to make money from a similar Sisters release.

This is what I don't get.
GS Cults had to be a huge gamble for GW compared to a potential Sisters release.
Nobody was asking for Cults or really expected them to come back. The release could of been an easy flop.
People literally ask GW for Sisters on a daily basis on Facebook and in stores. Its their most demanded thing by far, even the store managers say it's always the first thing they hear. Then the resin canoness came out and people were livid that it sold out so fast and they couldn't get one.

Sisters of Battle seen like a sure thing, easy money to me.

I just don't get GW on this one. Not at all.

I love that GW purposefully trolling their fanbase - and not in a fun, happy-clappy way but an actual 4chan trollface Problem? way - is somehow the fault of the fans.

If you don't want people to get upset with you for being a dick, don't act like a dick?

I can totally see why some people still have a negative reaction to the sisters of silence thing. Giving your customers news that makes them incredibly happy and then having it turn out to be not at all what they were excited about is a good way to alienate them for a long, long time.

I've been checking back on plastic Sisters rumours each month since late 2009 and the only things that have happened so far are Celestine and Veridyan. I was stunned that Genestealer Cults got something before SoBs, and thats coming from a player of SoB+GSC since 1992

I really feel like GW has missed so very many sales over the past 6 years or so. There are just so many plastic SoB proxy choices out there now, it will take something very special and comprehensive in order to get all the Sisters players to buy an entirely new range.

The ideal scenario is still a release of: a customisable Canoness, a Battle Sister boxed set that could be converted into Dominions/Repressors/Celestians/special characters, a Seraphim boxed set, a Repentia boxed set and FW plastic kits for the Repressor and redesigned Penitent Engine.

Even if all those were released at once, veteran players like me would probably only buy one box of each for the novelty factor of something different to join the metal models we already own. It would take a bit more creative thinking (i.e. an OP SoB Codex plus new units that REQUIRED purchase of the plastic kits) in order to really pull in both old and new players to the faction.

Seven pages already. Still sums up to “I’ll belive it when I see it.” I’ve started Sisters 18 months ago. Celestine and AoS female stormcasts have been well received. They will sell like hotcakes when they finally come.

 Yodhrin wrote:

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 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
I don't see what makes Sisters so "special" that they couldn't be in a starter set.

Easy to build, easy to paint, main faction, 'those are cool, I want to play them' effect. And Space Marines as mandatory Imperial faction.

 Sidstyler wrote:
But any army can be a "starter" army, though, really. That's the point of the "Start Collecting" boxes, isn't it?

Starting new armies is one thing. Starting the game another. Do I want a box with Sisters, GSC, Xenos mercenaries, IG veterans, Gue'vesa and Skitarii? Hell, yes. But would it sell enough to justify the risk? Would it attract enough new players? I don't think so.

I always giggle when I read stuff like this.

Granted. My first army was Genestealer Cult back then, so we're kind of on par. Doesn't change my opinion though.

I kinda understand the skepticism, we've got A number of things rumored to be coming "soon", which likely means summer or later. Something Tau related, maybe Russ+wolves (this one may be just speculative), the other two god specific CSM armies, and hints of what might be an entirely new faction. Given so many rumors are flying around, and how sisters get screwed over, it's no wonder people are doubting it.

I also feel the need to mention one possibility: Sisters of silence are intended to replace SoB, and this summer will see SoS getting a full codex like custodes are about to. It may be that GW is viewing this as a desire for a female power armored SM equivalent more than for SoB themselves.

 Yodhrin wrote:
You can make your first argument about practically anything, including for a wee while there Custodes who most folk were buying as part of a big multibox with plastic MKIII Marines or a smaller multibox with Sisters of Silence. GW were still evidently able to infer from that that Custodes specifically were popular.

Yeah. They had to do bit more than just look at how much custodians they shifted initially to figure out there was demand for them seeing lots of sales can be credited for being dirt cheap way(compared to alternatives) of getting MKIII marines which sells like hot cake for HH players and probably were used as cheaper(And visually different) alternative to basic marines in 40k! Not sure how they did but they had to do something to figure how much of custodians were "MKIII tax"(much like the sisters of silence and HQ models from that box are for me. I don't have big need of those but the box is still cheap enough I could literally throw them to garbage bin and still benefit. Doesn't mean me buying those boxes means I would be customer for bigger sisters of silence line! I'm very unlikely to ever buy anything specifically for them ever).

Just saying "it was part of bigger box" isn't cutting it. If it was we wouldn't have custodian release now...

 dan2026 wrote:

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Again though, we come back around to this: they managed to put out GSC, a faction I think it is fair to say had a significantly smaller "built in" fanbase than Sisters do even now, and it did well for them despite some issues like Aberrant availability and rules issues. I have yet to see a logical argument as to why they can do that - with absolutely no recent sales datapoints to back the initial decision at all - but would struggle to make money from a similar Sisters release.

This is what I don't get.
GS Cults had to be a huge gamble for GW compared to a potential Sisters release.
Nobody was asking for Cults or really expected them to come back.

That simply isn't true. When the 'allied detachments' were revealed for 6th, Genestealer cults immediately came up in discussion- it really is something people wanted and expected- if you like you can go way back to the discussions on various websites and find it. There was an expectation that it would lead to a bit more (and come sooner than they did), but between allies and the return and re-re-releases of Space Hulk, Cults were on a lot of people's minds.

There is also a demand for Sisters, of course, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a expectation, demand or market for GS cults.

Gimme decent plastic sisters with custom rhinochassis stuff, and that will be the day I start a new army! So some sales are lurking here... if GW just deigns to check places like dakkadakka.

Timmon

 Yodhrin wrote:

Again though, we come back around to this: they managed to put out GSC, a faction I think it is fair to say had a significantly smaller "built in" fanbase than Sisters do even now, and it did well for them despite some issues like Aberrant availability and rules issues. I have yet to see a logical argument as to why they can do that - with absolutely no recent sales datapoints to back the initial decision at all - but would struggle to make money from a similar Sisters release.

This. GW is very reactive in how they operate.

Ive seen these wishlisting threads before based on nothing but with this the interesting thing for me is;

- Every female model GW has put out in the last 2 years has been massively well recieved
- The fact they've released these models means the design team has experience modelling and manufacturing female miniatures
- They have been making a push with the hobby to get more women involved for a while and like it or not, strong females are fashionable at the moment

Whether it happens or not, It makes too much sense for GW not to do it, there is no way they could read this market and not see that a sisters release would sell. If GW do operate on a quarterly release schedule it would be reasonable to think they could manage; Q1 Nurgle, Q2 custodes maybe campaign to lead into-, Q3 new boxset- sisters vs slanesh followed by faction release (basically same sched as dark imperium and primaris) then Q4 slaanesh release with fulgrim

 Casbyness wrote:
I've been checking back on plastic Sisters rumours each month since late 2009 and the only things that have happened so far are Celestine and Veridyan. I was stunned that Genestealer Cults got something before SoBs, and thats coming from a player of SoB+GSC since 1992

I really feel like GW has missed so very many sales over the past 6 years or so. There are just so many plastic SoB proxy choices out there now, it will take something very special and comprehensive in order to get all the Sisters players to buy an entirely new range.

The ideal scenario is still a release of: a customisable Canoness, a Battle Sister boxed set that could be converted into Dominions/Repressors/Celestians/special characters, a Seraphim boxed set, a Repentia boxed set and FW plastic kits for the Repressor and redesigned Penitent Engine.

Even if all those were released at once, veteran players like me would probably only buy one box of each for the novelty factor of something different to join the metal models we already own. It would take a bit more creative thinking (i.e. an OP SoB Codex plus new units that REQUIRED purchase of the plastic kits) in order to really pull in both old and new players to the faction.

This is a pretty common opinion but ultimately(at least anecdotaly) a minority one. The majority of SoB players would (and in plenty of cases have already budgeted for) replace their entire force with plastics over time. Or in my case, immediately.

2 simple reasons for this; 1. There's no way in hell that GW would release SoB without some new options whether it be new weapon loadouts (including ones we should have but don't) or new squad types. This would put your whole army out of scale and would constantly shout at you how old the current SoB sculpts actually are. This also accounts for 3rd party models. Can't copy some thing that doesn't exist yet. Though I will say while 3rd party models have gotten some traction recently, they're still very much a niche within a niche within a niche.

2. Is that they're metal and metal sucks. They chip if you look at them too hard, converting them is an absolute slog, rebasing them is a slog, getting replacement parts for them (mostly backpacks) is basically impossible without knowing a good recaster, they're heavy, they're just a pain to work with all the time.

I have about 4k points of sisters atm and still relish the day I get to put them in the case and start fresh with something that I don't have to repaint every 2 weeks.


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SilverAlien wrote:
I kinda understand the skepticism, we've got A number of things rumored to be coming "soon", which likely means summer or later. Something Tau related, maybe Russ+wolves (this one may be just speculative), the other two god specific CSM armies, and hints of what might be an entirely new faction. Given so many rumors are flying around, and how sisters get screwed over, it's no wonder people are doubting it.

I also feel the need to mention one possibility: Sisters of silence are intended to replace SoB, and this summer will see SoS getting a full codex like custodes are about to. It may be that GW is viewing this as a desire for a female power armored SM equivalent more than for SoB themselves.

I can see why it does come up as a possibility that SoS replace SoB but what I can't really see is why. SoB have an established aesthetic, an established playstyle, a full codex, an established player base, and established demand that SoS just don't have. You'd be replacing something you have an incredible amount of data on with a relative unknown. Beyond that, the 40k rules writers have to keep matched play in mind when they design rules these days and an entire full army that's totally immune to psychic powers would be a balancing nightmare.

The only justification for going SoS over SoB that I can really see is the Horus Heresy tie-in and considering how half-assed THAT line is it doesn't seem very compelling.

My 2k SoB army i take to the Local is heavier than my 5k of nids......

ERJAK wrote:
This is a pretty common opinion but ultimately(at least anecdotaly) a minority one. The majority of SoB players would (and in plenty of cases have already budgeted for) replace their entire force with plastics over time. Or in my case, immediately.

My Sisters slush fund has since been dissolved and spent on a company who actually cares to give me the stuff I want.

I think plastic Sisters would sell well enough, and make no mistake, if it ever comes to it, I'll happily build a new army over time to replace my old Sisters*, but the way GW handles them I'm just not going to wait around with cash in hand.



*Provided GW delivers quality models, of course. Celestine hints at it strongly, but I'm not going to buy on good faith.

I think we all know that plastic Sisters are done and simply waiting for their release date. Question is when? Has to be this year after they're done releasing codices... maybe Q3 or Q4?

Here's the thing for me, as a salty old vet at 40k I've been looking around for a new army to collect, my dank angels are getting a tad bland (20 + years of the same army will do that), if sisters suddenly turned up I would drop a lot of money on them, aesthetically it is quite different from a lot out there and it would give me an excuse to get my nieces involved, one loved goblins the other just loves "Wonder Woman" looking models.

Plastic Sisters rumors have been around since Dark Elves were rereleased in the early 2000's. IIRC there was even some art work showing the new poses.
Just out of curiosity for those of you who have bought from 3rd parties- How do they match up in terms of scale to GW SoB and how do they match up in price? By that I mean if I wanted to start a new SoB army with 3rd party models what is the sticker price?

SilverAlien wrote:


I also feel the need to mention one possibility: Sisters of silence are intended to replace SoB, and this summer will see SoS getting a full codex like custodes are about to. It may be that GW is viewing this as a desire for a female power armored SM equivalent more than for SoB themselves.

That seems possible, but I feel like it would be a huge mistake. Sisters of Silence may be interesting in their own right, but they share almost nothing that makes Sisters of Battle iconic and compelling. It would be like if GW had discontinued Eldar when they introduced Tau, just because they're both humanoid aliens.

I keep hoping that GW will learn the lesson that literally every other miniatures company has learned. Well done female models sell well. And Sisters of Battle are the grandmother of female model lines.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Don’t forget, when they teaser the Magnus release in the dumpster, they also mentioned plastic Sisters. No rule about when they have to be released...then again, that could have been in reference to St. Celestine.

That was the box set with the Saint.

I'll spend money on plastic sisters when they are released. One day.

This rumor.... at this point I wouldn’t even believe official pictures, videos even. When I am holding a new squad of just-assembled plastic sisters of battle in my two hands I’ll start to believe.

Like everyone else I'm supremely skeptical, but also like (most) everyone else if they released plastic sisters I'd start an army. I've been mostly coasting on models I purchased over a decade ago (3rd/4th edition) since I got back into the hobby a few months ago, but a full sisters release would likely have me throwing money at GW. I'm sure I'm not the only one, and I don't really understand how people have been clamoring for a release since I stopped playing last time and yet it hasn't happened yet.

There doesn't appear to be any real news, rumor or credible evidence here.

As such, threadlock!

Until next time - when hopefully there is real news, or a rumor, or credible evidence!