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 Overread wrote:
Just a note but looking here

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c2

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c1

We can see quite a host of models being moved from Webstore only to 3rd party both from 40K and AoS! This is really great news because it means more discounts from 3rd parties and more support for games at local game stores and not just from the GW online store.


A 5% discount isn't much of a discount, sadly.

I mean, it's not going to convince you to buy, even if you were on the fence already.
   
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I hope they do the Cities of Sigmar justice and it isn’t just a catch all book for older models.
   
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 Overread wrote:
Just a note but looking here

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c2

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c1

We can see quite a host of models being moved from Webstore only to 3rd party both from 40K and AoS! This is really great news because it means more discounts from 3rd parties and more support for games at local game stores and not just from the GW online store.


From what I know, webstore only models could always be ordered by 3rd parties but at a reduced discount. So they might have just started showing them on the site?
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Just a note but looking here

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c2

https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/latest-and-pre-release?show=pre-release#c1

We can see quite a host of models being moved from Webstore only to 3rd party both from 40K and AoS! This is really great news because it means more discounts from 3rd parties and more support for games at local game stores and not just from the GW online store.


From what I know, webstore only models could always be ordered by 3rd parties but at a reduced discount. So they might have just started showing them on the site?


Thing is this is the first time I've seen webstore exclusives on show on an online store and whilst the discounts are not extreme they are still discounts.

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 Geifer wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry we discontinued basic Orc Boyz... have a Battletome!


I must have missed that. Just checked the GW site and yeah, gone, along with White Lions, High Elf Spearmen, High Elf Archers, and Empire Knights. I stongly susspect that this book is going to be one last hurrar for the none AoS minis. Once the book and the models have sold out, they'll be gone. It is so sad to see them go, WFB was my go to game since the late 90's, seeing it being shredded like that is just deflating. Sure the world went, but we could at the very least still buy the minis and continue to play.

Maybe I am no longer GW's target, classic fantasy must not have the same appeal as it once did.

At least the artwork is nice.


That seems unlikely. They'll discontinue some units, because that's what they said they'll do, but writing an army book (and possibly reboxing units with round bases) only to then drop that book and all armies in it? Come on.

GW isn't shy about squatting armies. Brettonians and Tomb Kings got hit early on, assorted orcs fairly recently. If they want something gone, they'll drop it. Just like that.

That doesn't mean this book is going to end up an equal to factions with modern models made for AoS and get updated in a timely fashion for new editions or ever receive new models. But it's unrealistic to expect that GW won't even go to the minimum effort of restocking the book and the miniatures that go with it as long as the free cities are relevant to the narrative and the design paradigm for army division doesn't change (like it did with mini factions to catch-all factions of old for Skaven, Beastmen and now the remaining orcs).


A lot of the older models are quite generic in theme, so 3rd parties can easily produce their own cheaper versions without infingement on IP laws, this is what was the overll outcome of the Chapter House lawsuit. So it is only natural that GW want to secure their sales and not have a host of 3rd party companies sell imitations of their products, hence why all the models for AoS are very distinct. Brettonians and Tomb kings were sadly poor performers in regards to sales, due in part to either old rules (Brettonians), or bad rules (Tomb Kings). Also WFB had at that point a lot of army books, I think it was something like 15, each demanding shelf space and warehouse space. To make way for the new hotness, Stormcast, things had to go.

As AoS rolls on we will see the older stuff from WFB slowly fade away, either to be forgotten, or replaced by newer reimagined product lines. I hope and wish I am wrong, as some of those models are lovely, and would be a shame to see them disappear.

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Wait, so, the upshot of announcing two new books is....
One new ogre model (not from either book) and a bunch of unnamed units being discontinued.

Ok. So... What's actually the selling point of these new books? because while the unrelated ogre is a neat model, other than that it seems like bad news.

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Voss wrote:

Ok. So... What's actually the selling point of these new books?


Mostly playing at AoS with updated warscrolls, allegeance rules and, of course, artifacts, spells and sub-factions rules.
   
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 stonehorse wrote:
Spoiler:
 Geifer wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry we discontinued basic Orc Boyz... have a Battletome!


I must have missed that. Just checked the GW site and yeah, gone, along with White Lions, High Elf Spearmen, High Elf Archers, and Empire Knights. I stongly susspect that this book is going to be one last hurrar for the none AoS minis. Once the book and the models have sold out, they'll be gone. It is so sad to see them go, WFB was my go to game since the late 90's, seeing it being shredded like that is just deflating. Sure the world went, but we could at the very least still buy the minis and continue to play.

Maybe I am no longer GW's target, classic fantasy must not have the same appeal as it once did.

At least the artwork is nice.


That seems unlikely. They'll discontinue some units, because that's what they said they'll do, but writing an army book (and possibly reboxing units with round bases) only to then drop that book and all armies in it? Come on.

GW isn't shy about squatting armies. Brettonians and Tomb Kings got hit early on, assorted orcs fairly recently. If they want something gone, they'll drop it. Just like that.

That doesn't mean this book is going to end up an equal to factions with modern models made for AoS and get updated in a timely fashion for new editions or ever receive new models. But it's unrealistic to expect that GW won't even go to the minimum effort of restocking the book and the miniatures that go with it as long as the free cities are relevant to the narrative and the design paradigm for army division doesn't change (like it did with mini factions to catch-all factions of old for Skaven, Beastmen and now the remaining orcs).


A lot of the older models are quite generic in theme, so 3rd parties can easily produce their own cheaper versions without infingement on IP laws, this is what was the overll outcome of the Chapter House lawsuit. So it is only natural that GW want to secure their sales and not have a host of 3rd party companies sell imitations of their products, hence why all the models for AoS are very distinct. Brettonians and Tomb kings were sadly poor performers in regards to sales, due in part to either old rules (Brettonians), or bad rules (Tomb Kings). Also WFB had at that point a lot of army books, I think it was something like 15, each demanding shelf space and warehouse space. To make way for the new hotness, Stormcast, things had to go.

As AoS rolls on we will see the older stuff from WFB slowly fade away, either to be forgotten, or replaced by newer reimagined product lines. I hope and wish I am wrong, as some of those models are lovely, and would be a shame to see them disappear.


I'm not sure if you aren't expecting too much of GW. I can't think of a time when GW's catalogue couldn't be described as old stuff slowly fading away or getting replaced by modernized versions.

As much as I'd like GW to keep stuff around forever, it's not realistic. I mean, it still sucks. I would have bought at least a dozen Tomb Kings kits in the last couple of years if only GW let me. But that's just how it goes. At least this time around they're announcing dropping kits so if you want something badly there's actually a chance of getting it before it's gone. Again, not ideal from our point of view as customers, but sadly completely out of our hands.

Voss wrote:
Wait, so, the upshot of announcing two new books is....
One new ogre model (not from either book) and a bunch of unnamed units being discontinued.

Ok. So... What's actually the selling point of these new books? because while the unrelated ogre is a neat model, other than that it seems like bad news.


It's just a rules update to bring armies in line with 2nd ed? What was the selling point of Beastmen or Skaven or Flesheater Courts? It's an effort on GW's part to provide current rules for the armies they want to keep around and present them using the current design paradigm. It's not spectacular without new models, sure, but neither were the majority of the 8th ed 40k codices. It's just something that needs to be done to get the game in a good state where everything is current and you don't have to sell models on the basis of rules released in, essentially, a different era.

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Voss wrote:
Wait, so, the upshot of announcing two new books is....
One new ogre model (not from either book) and a bunch of unnamed units being discontinued.

Ok. So... What's actually the selling point of these new books? because while the unrelated ogre is a neat model, other than that it seems like bad news.


The ogor is a teaser for the next book, after these two books, I think.
   
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Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!

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Voss wrote:
Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!


And if they hadn’t done an early warning, other people would be complaining about that.
   
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 stonehorse wrote:

A lot of the older models are quite generic in theme, so 3rd parties can easily produce their own cheaper versions without infingement on IP laws, this is what was the overll outcome of the Chapter House lawsuit. So it is only natural that GW want to secure their sales and not have a host of 3rd party companies sell imitations of their products, hence why all the models for AoS are very distinct. Brettonians and Tomb kings were sadly poor performers in regards to sales, due in part to either old rules (Brettonians), or bad rules (Tomb Kings). Also WFB had at that point a lot of army books, I think it was something like 15, each demanding shelf space and warehouse space. To make way for the new hotness, Stormcast, things had to go.

As AoS rolls on we will see the older stuff from WFB slowly fade away, either to be forgotten, or replaced by newer reimagined product lines. I hope and wish I am wrong, as some of those models are lovely, and would be a shame to see them disappear.


This old chestnut again? Here is a comprehensive list of the battletomes released since 2nd edition launched (not necessarily in order):

Dudes in Armor
Ghosts
Teslapunk Man-Rats
Goblins
Cannibal Not-zombies
Satyrs and Minotaurs
Angry Dwarven Naturists
Angry Trees
Red Barbarians and Literally Just Demons
Purple Barbarians and VD Demons

The closest thing to an original idea on that list is the Skaven. Being a generic fantasy trope does not stop GW from making a battletome.

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 Geifer wrote:


I'm not sure if you aren't expecting too much of GW. I can't think of a time when GW's catalogue couldn't be described as old stuff slowly fading away or getting replaced by modernized versions.

As much as I'd like GW to keep stuff around forever, it's not realistic. I mean, it still sucks. I would have bought at least a dozen Tomb Kings kits in the last couple of years if only GW let me. But that's just how it goes. At least this time around they're announcing dropping kits so if you want something badly there's actually a chance of getting it before it's gone. Again, not ideal from our point of view as customers, but sadly completely out of our hands.


True, GW have for as long as I have been collecting (30 years) replaced older models. What I think was different then to now, is that the newer models were just better sculpted versions. Now we see old lines vanish, having said that GW still have some very old models still in production, Space marine Bikers, Termagants, Hormagaunts, and Ripper Swarms come to mind.

It is going to be interesting to see what models are available in a few years time, I imagine that as time goes on AoS will move further away from its WFB heritage.

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Voss wrote:
Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!


Pretty standard fare, though, isn't it?

First off, they are going to drop those kits, whatever they are. The decision is made. It's going to happen. May as well alert customers to it now because they're going to find out sooner or later anyway. And better to get it out of the way now so when the book is for sale, people won't have it fresh on their mind to dissuade them from getting the book.

Even here we have a quick bad news, quick switch to look at the amazing things you can do with the new book thing going on.

GW is actively trying to soften the blow as much as they can. The only way to avoid dealing with it at all is to not drop those models, and again, the decision is made, so that just isn't an option.


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 stonehorse wrote:
 Geifer wrote:


I'm not sure if you aren't expecting too much of GW. I can't think of a time when GW's catalogue couldn't be described as old stuff slowly fading away or getting replaced by modernized versions.

As much as I'd like GW to keep stuff around forever, it's not realistic. I mean, it still sucks. I would have bought at least a dozen Tomb Kings kits in the last couple of years if only GW let me. But that's just how it goes. At least this time around they're announcing dropping kits so if you want something badly there's actually a chance of getting it before it's gone. Again, not ideal from our point of view as customers, but sadly completely out of our hands.


True, GW have for as long as I have been collecting (30 years) replaced older models. What I think was different then to now, is that the newer models were just better sculpted versions. Now we see old lines vanish, having said that GW still have some very old models still in production, Space marine Bikers, Termagants, Hormagaunts, and Ripper Swarms come to mind.

It is going to be interesting to see what models are available in a few years time, I imagine that as time goes on AoS will move further away from its WFB heritage.


Yes, since they introduced new visuals with AoS (and realistic some of the more extravagant 8th ed Fantasy kits as well) we're facing much more encompassing design changes. That's rarely happened before because by and large GW has a good grip of an army's visuals from the start. The most this ever affected me was with Tyranids where I started in 2nd ed, expanded in 3rd ed and added a Carnifex in 4th ed before no longer pursuing the army after I had three wildly varying Carnifex designs in my army.

AoS is bound to do the same thing because as much as GW tries to pretend the World That Was is kinda sorta part of the setting, AoS is its own thing and the designers embrace it, for good or ill.

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That's a really awesome Ogre lord! I shudder to think of what he'll cost, because I really want him for my fledgling Ogre force (even if it's specifically not for Age of Sigmar), but it's going to hurt to probably pay more for him than a whole box of bulls.





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 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!


Pretty standard fare, though, isn't it?


No, actually, it isn't. Apart from TK and Brets, outright dropping something with no replacement kit is exceedingly rare.
What examples are you thinking of?

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 AegisGrimm wrote:
That's a really awesome Ogre lord! I shudder to think of what he'll cost, because I really want him for my fledgling Ogre force (even if it's specifically not for Age of Sigmar), but it's going to hurt to probably pay more for him than a whole box of bulls.



Probably around $35-$40ish, depending on if there are more options than shown.
   
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Voss wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!


Pretty standard fare, though, isn't it?


No, actually, it isn't. Apart from TK and Brets, outright dropping something with no replacement kit is exceedingly rare.
What examples are you thinking of?


To clarify, I'm talking about the general culling of Fantasy models that no longer have a place in Age of Sigmar. Empire Militia was a kit I would have bought for bits once or twice, had it not been dropped. I'm counting scenery, too. Considering the nonsensical constancy of human fashion throughout the ages of AoS and the hard-on everyone has for Sigmar you'd think they'd have kept around more of the old kits. I don't know how many other kits have been dropped because my primary interest in Fantasy has always been Tomb Kings and I've hardly been following other armies. I'm not going to be able to provide a comprehensive list of what was dropped. That said, how much do you need to lose before you accept that GW is revising everything in their fantasy ranges to either conform to AoS or get discontinued. Rarity is not an issue. Everything in the cities book is old Fantasy models and given GW's proven willingness to drop things they no longer believe fits the setting, there never was a guarantee that every current kit would make it into the book.

If GW suddenly started dropping models from an army that already had an army book in Age of Sigmar before, that would be new. Culling unfit Fantasy kits, that's standard fare.

If you want this to strictly be tied to a book release and its advertising,, sure. In that case you probably shouldn't even count Tomb Kings and Brettonians either. They got dropped around the time the Grand Alliance books were released, if I recall. Definitely in the case of Tomb Kings and Grand Alliance Death (aka army book Vampire Counts + Nagash). GW certainly didn't advertise the fact they they were removed and just put them in last chance to buy.

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If we are getting Tomb Kings out of nowhere for AoS I will be shocked.

Edit; Could it be Carrion King or Ushoran from FeC book? Former champion of Nagash that is origin for ghouls?

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 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
Yeah, that isn't my point. I get book updates, after 30 odd years, that isn't confusing- but it isn't exciting either.

But it's the first time where they're advertising reducing the range alongside a book update. Functionally as part of the update, rather than trying to get people excited to buy shiny new models. That seems like negative advertising, and a really weird decision.

This isn't like 40k index entries, this is saying they won't be available and if you had them in your Cities army, tough, they won't be in the book. Huzzah!?!


Pretty standard fare, though, isn't it?


No, actually, it isn't. Apart from TK and Brets, outright dropping something with no replacement kit is exceedingly rare.
What examples are you thinking of?


To clarify, I'm talking about the general culling of Fantasy models that no longer have a place in Age of Sigmar. Empire Militia was a kit I would have bought for bits once or twice, had it not been dropped. I'm counting scenery, too. Considering the nonsensical constancy of human fashion throughout the ages of AoS and the hard-on everyone has for Sigmar you'd think they'd have kept around more of the old kits. I don't know how many other kits have been dropped because my primary interest in Fantasy has always been Tomb Kings and I've hardly been following other armies. I'm not going to be able to provide a comprehensive list of what was dropped. That said, how much do you need to lose before you accept that GW is revising everything in their fantasy ranges to either conform to AoS or get discontinued. Rarity is not an issue. Everything in the cities book is old Fantasy models and given GW's proven willingness to drop things they no longer believe fits the setting, there never was a guarantee that every current kit would make it into the book.

So... one.
And a general culling so 'vast' you can't come up with any other examples, except maybe vaguely some unnamed scenery kits (which aren't at all relevant). Right then.


If you want this to strictly be tied to a book release and its advertising,, sure. In that case you probably shouldn't even count Tomb Kings and Brettonians either. They got dropped around the time the Grand Alliance books were released, if I recall. Definitely in the case of Tomb Kings and Grand Alliance Death (aka army book Vampire Counts + Nagash). GW certainly didn't advertise the fact they they were removed and just put them in last chance to buy.

I remember a lot of advertising of that, actually. They had a lot of leftover stock, or so it seemed, and they mashed that 'last chance to buy' button for nearly a month.

But the advertising in this case is literally this:
WarCom wrote:The arrival of Cities of Sigmar does mean a handful of Order units will be leaving the range and becoming Warhammer Legends later this year. We’ll be providing a full list of which ones closer to the time.

This is saying that as a direct consequence of the book, models are being dropped. Not that they're just being phased out, but they have to go, because the book exists.

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The teaser music sounds deserty. Does anyone who has played Total Warhammer II know if this is Tomb Kings theme music?

Obviously I wouldn't object to getting Tomb Kings back, if that's what this is. I'm a bit wary though, because in spite of the bone theme (Mortarch of Bone, then?) I don't believe we've seen anything overtly Nehekharan in the rumor engine pictures.

Voss wrote:
So... one.
And a general culling so 'vast' you can't come up with any other examples, except maybe vaguely some unnamed scenery kits (which aren't at all relevant). Right then.


I guess you could just ignore everything I've said, if that makes you happy. Right then indeed.

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That’s either Tomb Kings or a Van Carstein back from the dead. I don’t see how it could be anything else.

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The music and voice was "Asian" sounding. We're getting Tomb KHANS.
   
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 DaveC wrote:
Tithe of Bones Teaser (what was that about Tomb Kings )




Oh snap!

It was Hondo Ohnaka* that Sigmar locked in the Stormvault!

*Or any other charcter Jim Cummings voiced

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
That’s either Tomb Kings or a Van Carstein back from the dead. I don’t see how it could be anything else.

I'm leaning towards Vlad.

We never did actually find out where/what he was from the outset. He was always just a 'mysterious stranger' who showed up at the gates of Sylvania's lord as he lay dying and took Isabella as a bride.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
The teaser music sounds deserty. Does anyone who has played Total Warhammer II know if this is Tomb Kings theme music?

Obviously I wouldn't object to getting Tomb Kings back, if that's what this is. I'm a bit wary though, because in spite of the bone theme (Mortarch of Bone, then?) I don't believe we've seen anything overtly Nehekharan in the rumor engine pictures.

Voss wrote:
So... one.
And a general culling so 'vast' you can't come up with any other examples, except maybe vaguely some unnamed scenery kits (which aren't at all relevant). Right then.


I guess you could just ignore everything I've said, if that makes you happy. Right then indeed.


Just from the Empire, we lost the Cannon/Mortar, Knights, and Free Company Fighters, plus a host of characters.

Dark Elves lost Shades, Harpies, and Bolt Throwers.

I could go on, but I don't feel like it.

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Ooooh that tithe video tickles me. Just wondering what it will actually be. Tomb Khan's.

I don't play AOS so new rule books don't massively do much for me. But new models. Yeah count me in. Ogre tyrant looks fantastic.

Give me some new skellie Bob's.

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Voss wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
Voss wrote:
No, actually, it isn't. Apart from TK and Brets, outright dropping something with no replacement kit is exceedingly rare.
What examples are you thinking of?
To clarify, I'm talking about the general culling of Fantasy models that no longer have a place in Age of Sigmar. Empire Militia was a kit I would have bought for bits once or twice, had it not been dropped. I'm counting scenery, too. Considering the nonsensical constancy of human fashion throughout the ages of AoS and the hard-on everyone has for Sigmar you'd think they'd have kept around more of the old kits. I don't know how many other kits have been dropped because my primary interest in Fantasy has always been Tomb Kings and I've hardly been following other armies. I'm not going to be able to provide a comprehensive list of what was dropped. That said, how much do you need to lose before you accept that GW is revising everything in their fantasy ranges to either conform to AoS or get discontinued. Rarity is not an issue. Everything in the cities book is old Fantasy models and given GW's proven willingness to drop things they no longer believe fits the setting, there never was a guarantee that every current kit would make it into the book.

So... one.
And a general culling so 'vast' you can't come up with any other examples, except maybe vaguely some unnamed scenery kits (which aren't at all relevant). Right then.
Okay, I'll bite. Not sure of the ranges I don't collect myself, but I think the list at least includes Glade Riders, Empire Militia, Orc Boyz, Boar Boyz, Arrer Boyz, Chariot, Orc Warboss, Common Goblins, Goblin Wolf Riders, Wolf Chariot, Dwarf Miners.. maybe?

This is saying that as a direct consequence of the book, models are being dropped. Not that they're just being phased out, but they have to go, because the book exists.
Not sure I follow? It sounds as if you're saying models are forced to be removed because they don't happen to be in the book. But the book can obviously included whatever GW wants it to, and most lost units will likely be those they don't feel like producing anymore.
   
 
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