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AOS... 2?

 Mymearan wrote:
AOS... 2?

I'm not sure they're going to do a whole new edition, but they might do a new boxed set since Slaanesh is purportedly waking up.

So many boxed sets.....

It's shark jumping time!

 Mymearan wrote:
AOS... 2?

Gathering Storm -> new 40k edition
Malign Portents -> new Age of Sigmar edition

Naming convention alone suggests this is going to happen. Add the new darkened Age of Sigmar logo and there should be even less doubt.

I agree with Kanluwen though that it'll likely be less of a classic edition change and will instead use the tools at hand, ie General's Handbook, with a shiny new starter box. Possibly an updated but still free core rules that reflects changes in the General's Handbook and FAQs.

New edition of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

And it's a rather fun mechanics. But honestly AoS' health would improve in many senses if we switched to an alternate activation system. I move, you move, I shoot once, you shoot once.

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

I would LOVE alternate activation. It never made sense in 40k or fantasy that one side goes, then another side.

I've never had a double turn happen in my favour, but it is amusing when you're an under-dog, and get the double turn.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

Modern GW rules give armies a significant damage output, much more than used to be the case fifteen years ago. Unlike 40k, Age of Sigmar's reduced weapon ranges decrease the alpha strike problem that plagues 40k and results in games being over in two turns. Double turns bring it back by allowing one side to do crippling damage to another side on the roll of a single die. I've never played anyone, or watched a game for that matter, where initiative wasn't frustrating for the player on the receiving end.

That said, I won't be impressed if (a still hypothetical) AoS 2nd ed will be based on 40k. Some rules could be adopted to improve the game, but I'm of the opinion that even now Age of Sigmar is the better game and would rather not see that change for the worse.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

Has Geifer has said, the scale of damage in LoTR and AoS is very very different. LoTR was the best system GW did (It has its imbalances, but nothing like 40K or fantasy/AoS). In LoTR the double turn was something you planned, and even when your opponent or you had it, you couldnt just use it to mope up half your opponent force unless he played really really bad.
In AoS the Double turn means that instead of losing 1/4 of your army between your first and second turn you lose half of it.

And lets me not start in Mortal Wound spam. But meh. I can understand people that still plays AoS, personally I have been burned out, specially by the free character sniping and the mortal wound spam (Maybe because I play Khorne bloodbound horde and mixed destruction with greenskins and ogres, so I have not competitive armies)

 Geifer wrote:
It's shark jumping time!

 Mymearan wrote:
AOS... 2?

Gathering Storm -> new 40k edition
Malign Portents -> new Age of Sigmar edition

Naming convention alone suggests this is going to happen. Add the new darkened Age of Sigmar logo and there should be even less doubt.

I agree with Kanluwen though that it'll likely be less of a classic edition change and will instead use the tools at hand, ie General's Handbook, with a shiny new starter box. Possibly an updated but still free core rules that reflects changes in the General's Handbook and FAQs.

There is indeed rumors for a new Edition and a new Starter set in June (when "Souls War" from Josh Reynolds is out) : Death (new Reanimant or Nighthaunt) vs Stormcast Eternals (maybe Ruination or Sacrosanct Chamber) or even Aelves. Apparently GW managers had a formation about it recently.

Add to that - as Geifer said - a new logo, a new Battletomes format, a new FAQ system (maybe impacting the General's handbook 2018 release - it may looks more like Chapter Approved and it may be out this winter instead of this summer).

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About the Idoneth text, old news on TGA (see Chikout's post) : http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/217-the-rumour-thread/?page=405

So GW seminar at GAMA is tonight?

 Geifer wrote:

Modern GW rules give armies a significant damage output, much more than used to be the case fifteen years ago. Unlike 40k, Age of Sigmar's reduced weapon ranges decrease the alpha strike problem that plagues 40k and results in games being over in two turns. Double turns bring it back by allowing one side to do crippling damage to another side on the roll of a single die. I've never played anyone, or watched a game for that matter, where initiative wasn't frustrating for the player on the receiving end.

The funny part is that the 'double turns' is rarely a deciding factor where I play.

That said, the point about "modern" rules is huge. I compared Dark Riders' crossbows(16" 3 shots 5+/4+ no Rend 1 damage) to the thing given to the Doomfire Warlocks and the difference is just ridiculous.

zamerion wrote:
So GW seminar at GAMA is tonight?

I wish, but I believe they are on schedule for tues/wednesday according to the official schedule on the website.

There are a lot of things that I'd like to see changed. I'm not getting my hopes up. They'll probably just add another RNG table and a flowchart to the basic rules. I'll be overjoyed if I'm mistaken.

I don't think I like that GW is going to release two evil aelven armies (with Malerion's still in production). I'll likely grab an army of deepkin, but that's more to do with the situation that other aelven factions aren't getting updated anytime soon.

 Knight wrote:

I don't think I like that GW is going to release two evil aelven armies (with Malerion's still in production). I'll likely grab an army of deepkin, but that's more to do with the situation that other aelven factions aren't getting updated anytime soon.

Who says that Malerion's Aelves would be "evil"?

From Facebook:

 Thargrim wrote:

zamerion wrote:
So GW seminar at GAMA is tonight?

I wish, but I believe they are on schedule for tues/wednesday according to the official schedule on the website.

Indeed : Tuesday, 13 March. At 11AM-12 PM or 3-4 PM.

http://www.gamatradeshow.com/show-schedule/

 BrookM wrote:
From Facebook:

This image ties directly with the novel which takes place way before the realm gate wars while Nagash has been defeated by Archaon and struggling to take shape.

Has nothing to do with the current Malign Portents stuff.

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

zamerion wrote:
So GW seminar at GAMA is tonight?

I wish, but I believe they are on schedule for tues/wednesday according to the official schedule on the website.

Indeed : Tuesday, 13 March. At 11AM-12 PM or 3-4 PM.

http://www.gamatradeshow.com/show-schedule/

And the facebook WarhammerTV link to GAMA says this:

"GAMA is one of the world’s premier board gaming and tabletop trade shows, bringing together manufacturers and designers from around the world - and this year, Games Workshop will be taking this opportunity to make some major reveals. Make sure to keep your eyes peeled on Warhammer Community and the Warhammer TV, Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer 40,000 Facebook pages for some exciting announcements on March 12th-March 16th."

So now i'm expecting some reveals for sure, I hope so cause I need new stuff to drool over.

Last year the whole Kharadron Overlords range was shown at the GAMA seminar, iirc.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Last year the whole Kharadron Overlords range was shown at the GAMA seminar, iirc.

Yes, they were.

Is it bad that part of me hopes the Deepkin are awful so I wont be tempted? Still fingers and toes crossed for some news tomorrow.

Woah I love new starters and I might be tempted by Death stuff. Especially corrupted Stormcasts.

And news on maritime stuff to use for Nurgle Reavers to steal tonight would be awesome.



Edit: Oh man shark riders I sculpted three weresharks for my Privateer Press stuff as Wrastler count-as and I'm planning Nurgle knights on flying fishes made from Slaanesh steeds...and a Nurgle turtle to use my spare Stegadon head.

If GW knocks out stuff that makes my planned conversions easier or a whole faction that is full of stupid-but-cool ideas I had myself how could I resist.

 Binabik15 wrote:
Woah I love new starters and I might be tempted by Death stuff. Especially corrupted Stormcasts.

And news on maritime stuff to use for Nurgle Reavers to steal tonight would be awesome.



Edit: Oh man shark riders I sculpted three weresharks for my Privateer Press stuff as Wrastler count-as and I'm planning Nurgle knights on flying fishes made from Slaanesh steeds...and a Nurgle turtle to use my spare Stegadon head.

If GW knocks out stuff that makes my planned conversions easier or a whole faction that is full of stupid-but-cool ideas I had myself how could I resist.

My local redshirt told me a death vs stormcast starter set in fact he was looking for someone interested in the death part since he is just looking for the Stormcast.

Oh snap, didn't even know there was a Seminar today, let alone for there to be reveals too!!!

Unexpected hype lets gooooooo. Jump to all the conclusions.


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 Binabik15 wrote:
Woah I love new starters and I might be tempted by Death stuff. Especially corrupted Stormcasts.

And news on maritime stuff to use for Nurgle Reavers to steal tonight would be awesome.



Edit: Oh man shark riders I sculpted three weresharks for my Privateer Press stuff as Wrastler count-as and I'm planning Nurgle knights on flying fishes made from Slaanesh steeds...and a Nurgle turtle to use my spare Stegadon head.

If GW knocks out stuff that makes my planned conversions easier or a whole faction that is full of stupid-but-cool ideas I had myself how could I resist.

Aww yeaah, Im currently doing a Kvaldir force for Chaos, bought some screamers to use as stingrays for some Hellflayers since they already have swordfish like arms. If we get big sharks, I think I found my Skullcrushers.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Knight wrote:

I don't think I like that GW is going to release two evil aelven armies (with Malerion's still in production). I'll likely grab an army of deepkin, but that's more to do with the situation that other aelven factions aren't getting updated anytime soon.

Who says that Malerion's Aelves would be "evil"?

Indeed - even Morathi's Daughters of Khaine are less evil than say Dark Elves were. They are religious fanatics with blood sacrifice but then Sigmar has plenty of those who are quite fond of burning people.

The Hype Party Central here? When do we think we'll get anything?

Aren73 wrote:
The Hype Party Central here? When do we think we'll get anything?

Today. Tomorrow. Someday.

I don't know, I'm just constantly hitting refresh.