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Smellingsalts wrote:
The other monster in this army will probably be the Dark Elf Sea Monster that was a double kit with the hydra (forgot its name).

The Kharibdyss is currently part of the Scourge Privateers faction. That could change of course, but the Dark Aelf handlers don't really match the Deepkin style. But the Privateers are on the the Daughters of Khaine's ally list(along side the Idoneth), and I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the Deepkin's either.

Yeah I don't see the Kharibdyss. It's a sea creature but past that doesn't fit the look of the faction, in my opinion.

There are 3 elven lines hinted at in DoK

Idoneth deepkin

Malerion's Shadowkin

Teclis' succeeded second attempt of "Angelic" Aelves.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

LOTR is a much better written and much more "complex" set of rules than AoS. Also with "heroic movement" the other guy still can react, you also cant win initiative more than 3 times (unless that rule changed from the original 3)


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Of course it does. Otherwise you could never have had Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings or any army based on spell animation or manipulation. Because the enemy could just "dispel it first".

In a fair amount of books, that is exactly how the enemy to those armies won, they dispelled the force.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

dogfender wrote:
Im curious what the aelves from ulgu will end up looking like now..
They have shadow daemons dont they? Then again morathii used them too but arent in their book..


also curious why some sort of crustacean wasn't used for a large land mount?

The sculptor was too crabby.

No! Bad poster!

That pun was ripe for the telling, to clam up then would have been cray.

you sir are the devil

 thekingofkings wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

LOTR is a much better written and much more "complex" set of rules than AoS. Also with "heroic movement" the other guy still can react, you also cant win initiative more than 3 times (unless that rule changed from the original 3)


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Of course it does. Otherwise you could never have had Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings or any army based on spell animation or manipulation. Because the enemy could just "dispel it first".

In a fair amount of books, that is exactly how the enemy to those armies won, they dispelled the force.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

dogfender wrote:
Im curious what the aelves from ulgu will end up looking like now..
They have shadow daemons dont they? Then again morathii used them too but arent in their book..


also curious why some sort of crustacean wasn't used for a large land mount?

The sculptor was too crabby.

No! Bad poster!

That pun was ripe for the telling, to clam up then would have been cray.

you sir are the devil

Perhaps. His insistence on using puns sure is fishy. It may not be on porpoise though, so we will have to make shore.

Smellingsalts wrote:
The other monster in this army will probably be the Dark Elf Sea Monster that was a double kit with the hydra (forgot its name).

Kharibdyss is in the Scourge Privateers army list.

Not every army has a monster or multiple monsters. You're looking at probably two variant builds on the Sea Turtle's howdah and maybe two different hero/monster options for the Sea Unicorn of Doom.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Galas wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
New edirion of AoS based on current 40K rules would be welcome. AoS has improved a lot since its inception, but lacklustre core rules are holding it back.

Don't say that out loud. Some people will kill you if you even dare to say that double-turn is a super random and not-fun mechanic!

I've never understood people's problem with the second turn. I've been playing the LotR sbg since it's inception and that's always been a core part of the mechanics and I've never seen or heard anyone complain about it. It's just always been a factor you need to consider when planning a strategy.

LOTR is a much better written and much more "complex" set of rules than AoS. Also with "heroic movement" the other guy still can react, you also cant win initiative more than 3 times (unless that rule changed from the original 3)


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Of course it does. Otherwise you could never have had Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings or any army based on spell animation or manipulation. Because the enemy could just "dispel it first".

In a fair amount of books, that is exactly how the enemy to those armies won, they dispelled the force.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

dogfender wrote:
Im curious what the aelves from ulgu will end up looking like now..
They have shadow daemons dont they? Then again morathii used them too but arent in their book..


also curious why some sort of crustacean wasn't used for a large land mount?

The sculptor was too crabby.

No! Bad poster!

That pun was ripe for the telling, to clam up then would have been cray.

you sir are the devil

Perhaps. His insistence on using puns sure is fishy. It may not be on porpoise though, so we will have to make shore.

MY GAWDS MAN!!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Smellingsalts wrote:
The other monster in this army will probably be the Dark Elf Sea Monster that was a double kit with the hydra (forgot its name).

Kharibdyss is in the Scourge Privateers army list.

Not every army has a monster or multiple monsters. You're looking at probably two variant builds on the Sea Turtle's howdah and maybe two different hero/monster options for the Sea Unicorn of Doom.

They said in the seminar (from reports, I wasn't there) that there's 4 builds for the Turtle, and yeah I think there's at least 2 builds for the Sea Unicorn (there's art of it with a different rider to the model we've seen). So yeah thats 6 monster builds already.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Smellingsalts wrote:
The other monster in this army will probably be the Dark Elf Sea Monster that was a double kit with the hydra (forgot its name).

Kharibdyss is in the Scourge Privateers army list.

Not every army has a monster or multiple monsters. You're looking at probably two variant builds on the Sea Turtle's howdah and maybe two different hero/monster options for the Sea Unicorn of Doom.

They said in the seminar (from reports, I wasn't there) that there's 4 builds for the Turtle, and yeah I think there's at least 2 builds for the Sea Unicorn (there's art of it with a different rider to the model we've seen). So yeah thats 6 monster builds already.

The Facebook Live preview they did right after the seminar can be found HERE. I haven't listened to the whole thing, but it might give a few more details on how many units/kits to expect.

Coolio, thanks for the link.

In a fair amount of books, that is exactly how the enemy to those armies won, they dispelled the force.

That's true and I wouldn't be surprised at a novel finally throwing a reversed situation at Order with a commander striking a deal with the Deepkin to make a flank attack only to get pulled into a trap by a sorceror coven and end up high and dry in the middle of the army.

Teclis' succeeded second attempt of "Angelic" Aelves.

Oooh, first time I'm hearing about that.

Well looking at how heavily Greek inspired the aelves are(medusa/Ares, furies and now Poseidon) I looked if angels were in it and indeed they are along with why images depict them with wings:

https://www.quora.com/Are-there-angels-in-Greek-Mythology-and-Roman-Mythology

So I hope GW use that to give them Tyrion's awesome winged helm if not a flying theme as well. (Probably ally and integrate Swifthawk agents)

do they look greek? Eh...

I would say they look like the mash up of atlanteans (the cavalry mostly) and chinese, something most obvious the female hero and the dragon lord (that is almost a dao and look at the clothing!).

Oh indeed but i'm just going off a possible theme. At least some of the warriors look like spartans and a Poseidon influence would account for why they're so unpredictable as he was. (If you count Malerion as Hades and Alarielle as Athena besides the Norse goddess resemblance then there can be a theme gleamed from them as well why such gods of Order aren't wholly benevolent, Greek gods were jerks )

These AOS releases keep getting better. At this point, I’m really debating either staying in 40k (and meshing some of these bits into my growing Dark Eldar) or switch over to AOS to get these guys and the Kharadon Overlords).

Haha, why not roll with the Dark Eldar bits idea and make them enslavers of a water covered planet with interchangeable troops that you can bring out vehicles for 40k and the sea beasts for AoS?

Of course if the fantasy to sci-fi troops prove too hard to make interchangeable then maybe go reversed with sea beasts that can be proxied as vehicles on a water world with some tech upgrades on them to make them 40k-like (the tech in AoS can be handwaved as gifts from your possible Overlord force)

Just spit-balling ideas.

Apologies if this is answered somewhere, but do we know when Idoneth are likely to start going up for preorder yet? End of April?

 ElvisJuice wrote:
Apologies if this is answered somewhere, but do we know when Idoneth are likely to start going up for preorder yet? End of April?

14th of April is the rumour.

Black Coach in the warscroll builder is now a Unit

https://malignportents.com/story/a-rescued-soul/

Further proof Slaanesh is going to break free at the end of Malign Portents

Cataphract wrote:
https://malignportents.com/story/a-rescued-soul/

Further proof Slaanesh is going to break free at the end of Malign Portents

Probably my favorite Malign Portents short story too.

Quite a few implications that the gods fighting on the side of Order are as divided* as the Chaos gods, and on the brink of a falling out should certain secrets become known to all parties involved.

*Which we knew, as the Pantheon fell apart well before the Age of Chaos, but the revelation in this story that the Gladiatorum, gifted to Sigmar by Malerion so that the Stormcast could practice training has a more sinister, unsaid purpose is pretty dark.

Yeah, I keep hearing people talking about that...

If MP comes to a big Death reveal this summer with AOS 2.0, starter set Nighthaunt vs Stormcast, and Souls war by Josh Reynolds, then it could indeed directly lead to the "end of the year Slaanesh" rumors we get more and more often these days.

Yes, please. Can not wait for my Slaanesh goodies. GW: please give me a Merry Christmas with a KoS in plastic, Azazel the Daemon Prince, hated “brother” to Sigmar himself, and plastic fiends. Kickass mortal units as well would be great. Oh, and Fulgrim. Because “why not”.

An elven soul with a love-hate relationship to Teclis.

*scratches head*

 His Master's Voice wrote:
An elven soul with a love-hate relationship to Teclis.

*scratches head*

Couldn't that be just about everyone? Teclis, beloved hero of Ulthuan versus Teclis, the dude that made Malekith phoenix king?

Some new info from the latest white dwarf has leaked courtesy of the French warhammer forum.
Deepkin will go on pre-order on April 14th as expected.

IS THAT A RAPTOR SEA-HORSE?!

I seriously hope that there's a regular cavalry version of that not just a hero


edit - ahh 3rd picture added to your post. Great looking hero character and huge raptor-sea-horse! Shame there's no cav version but the model certainly does the art justice (indeed the beast is far bigger in the model)

They actually choose the not-Mortarch as the book cover.

It is interesting that the helm on the cover is different from the one in the picture, so we will presumably get three variants of that model.

It's getting harder to resist.

We should get rules teasers next or next next week at least !

I'd say a week later - if pre order is on the 14th then I'd wager GW will pre release hints and such in the week leading up to that. So not next week but the week after

Goddang, that Avatar of Mathlann is prettier in its second build format.

Also: rules!

Status markers are: Inspiring Presence, Low Tide, High Tide, Ritual of Erosion, Ritual of the Storm, and Lord of the Tide.

Avatar of Mathlaan Rules

1st ability- Reroll 1 to Hit and +1 Damage on the spear if you charge. Heal D3 damage after the charge. And you can charge even after retreat.

Second ability : reroll Wound roll of 1 for units within 9".

Last one : at the start of Combat phase you can debuff a Hero within 3" if he has a Wound carac less than 8 -> -1 to Hit till the end of Combat phase.