40k codex release schedule rumor

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**Arachnofiend**

Us3Less wrote:
Has GW at any point stated how many codexes will be released in total? Currently, a total of 16 have been announced. I remember reading a statement somewhere that by mid 2018 all codexes should be done, but I could't find it back on the community page anymore. All I could find was that all "major" factions would be getting a codex, which is as vague as it gets. Orks and Space Wolves seem a clear cut for me, but then what else is up. I would guess that Harlequins and GSC also get a codex Then there's the whole mess with Imperial sub-factions (knights, Inquisitors, SoB, assassins, LotD, SoS, ministorum priests and even Deathwatch). I really don't see how Imperial Knights deserve their own codex. Even with the new model it's just two models with some different weapons and the index + CA pretty much cover them properly. I guess all of the sub-factions could be lumped in one big Imperial Agents book, but that'll be a challenge to make it at least a tiny bit coherent. I don't expect World Eaters or Emperor's Children to get their own book, considering neither is mentioned specifically in the rulebook and all other (Chaos) Space Marines that received their own codexes so far have been. Following that logic, Deathwatch should also get their own codex. I'm curious to hear if there's any info known on the amount of codexes that should be released, at least that would give an indication on how the Imperial sub-factions will be treated.

I would assume the "major" factions are the ones that got rules in Chapter Approved. So the remaining codexes should be Sisters of Battle, Deathwatch, Genestealer Cults, Harlequins, Imperial Knights, Orks, and Space Wolves.

**gorgon**

Grimgold wrote:
Though I wonder what sisters of battle players will do with all of their extra time when they are free of the burden of constant forum posts about how GW hates them.

Complain about their rules.

**Mr Morden**

gorgon wrote:
Grimgold wrote:
Though I wonder what sisters of battle players will do with all of their extra time when they are free of the burden of constant forum posts about how GW hates them.

Complain about their rules.

Ironically their rules are pretty damn good at the moment

**fox-light713**

Grimgold wrote:

Ones we are pretty sure about
Harlequin, Imperial knights, Orks, genestealer Cults, Ynarri, deathwatch, space wolves

So that leaves us a spot for a mystery codex, which if I were a gambling man I would bet on agents of the imperium. which will be Sisters of battle, sisters of silence, and the various flavors of Inquisition. If they get a kit (and to be fair most codexes have gotten at least one), with those factions it would most likely be Plastic sisters of battle.

I say this as a true sisters of battle skeptic, but it just makes sense to release plastic sisters as part of an agents of the imperium codex. Sisters of silence are already in plastic, much of the inquisition can be done by kits for IG, so sisters is the logical part of the codex to get some love.

In the 7ed "impiral agents" codex were these factions (not all of them had their full list but only parts of it) Cult Mechanicus, aeronautica imperialis, astra telepaths, SoB, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, LotD, Assasins, Inquisition. In the book the only ones that would have had a full list in it would be the SoB, Inquisition, Assasins, and Astra Telepaths. The others were parts of other factions that already had Codexes out.

In 8th edition ones that are obviously getting their own codex - Space Wolves, Orks, Harliquins, Genestealer Cults, Ynarri, deathwatch. Knowing GW Knights are probably getting their own codex as well. That leaves these impirial factions in a guessing game as to how and which ones are getting their own codex or combined into an "Impirial Agents" codex - Inquisitors, SoB, assassins, LotD, SoS, ministorum priests. (though arn't the LotD covered in the new space marine codex?)

**Arachnofiend**

I suspect the "Imperial Agents" are just going to be index-locked (with the obvious exception of Sisters of Battle). If there's not enough content in an army to even make a full detachment of it, then what would be the point of releasing an 8th edition codex for them? You can't have chapter tactics or stratagems for assassins.

**axisofentropy**

fox-light713 wrote:
(though arn't the LotD covered in the new space marine codex?)

No.

I do expect another Imperial Agents codex. It was the final codex of 7th edition, just over a year ago, and it will probably be the final codex of 8th as well.

**tneva82**

Popsghostly wrote:
Wasn't there a rumor about a new set coming out too? Sisters vs. Necrons and then later Mechnicus vs Necrons? The latter makes sense with the new mini-knight walkers and cyptek. Maybe it'll be announced at Adepticon in March.

Lots of BS rumours flying on. You can basically ignore any rumour of boxed set without marines(now primaris marines) within it. Those boxes are wishlists and were around even in 7th ed...

**dan2026**

What on earth is going on with the Dark Eldar characters?

Are they going to bring any of them back? Or will the new book be stuck with only three again.

**Kirasu**

dan2026 wrote:
What on earth is going on with the Dark Eldar characters?

Are they going to bring any of them back? Or will the new book be stuck with only three again.

Pretty simple answer. Standard GW Flow Chart asks "Does it have a model?" IF NO then "It's gone"

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axisofentropy wrote:
fox-light713 wrote:
(though arn't the LotD covered in the new space marine codex?)
No.

I do expect another Imperial Agents codex. It was the final codex of 7th edition, just over a year ago, and it will probably be the final codex of 8th as well.

Sure why not? After all, they did give Custodes a mini-codex and they have even less unique models.

**Irbis**

dan2026 wrote:
It is starting to get quite frustrating that 99% of the codexes are coming out without any new models.

As far as I know the only armies that have had new models were Space Marines (Primaris), CSM (Death Guard) and Daemons (Nurgle).

Assuming that pretty much all the codexes will be out by the middle of this year, what does GW do then?

Eldar had new Eldrad (who had technically had a very limited release before but was long unavailable by then). We know Necrons are getting something with the book and AM is now getting a new toy too. Close to 50% is pretty good record, especially with such rapid releases.

Gene St. Ealer wrote:
I think Verviedi's point may be that the Tau codex is not even the exact same cover as in 7th -- it's photoshopped to reflect the Viorla sept being the featured faction.

I wonder, why? Is T'au no longer capital for some reason? Maybe it was destroyed in the wake of new super warp rift?

Grimtuff wrote:
We're coming up in 10 years this year with no plastic Deffkoptas outside the starter (which was also discontinued 6 years ago)...

Can't you buy them right now in Vedros boxes?

**Geifer**

Arachnofiend wrote:
I suspect the "Imperial Agents" are just going to be index-locked (with the obvious exception of Sisters of Battle). If there's not enough content in an army to even make a full detachment of it, then what would be the point of releasing an 8th edition codex for them? You can't have chapter tactics or stratagems for assassins.

There's an easy fix for the lack of content - GW could just make some.

What did Custodes have yesterday. One five man squad. And today? A full codex with several units, two of which will receive their models next week and thus wrap up the faction.

There's nothing standing in the way of Inquisition/Imperial Agents getting expanded like this other than GW's hard-on for Marines. So yeah, in practical terms it's not worth holding your breath for an Imperial Agents codex. Could happen eventually, but we desperately need some more Primarchs first.

**Kanluwen**

It's been color-swapped because all the model packaging has been as well.

Supposedly it has to do with the Vior'la colors of white, black, and red just looking much better for promotional material.

**Red Corsair**

Do we know what the order will be for the releases Tau, Necrons and Dark Eldar?

**Kanluwen**

Red Corsair wrote:
Do we know what the order will be for the releases Tau, Necrons and Dark Eldar?

Purportedly, someone at the event asked and was told:
End of February for Drukhari
Early March for Tau
Necrons at the end of March

**Red Corsair**

Thanks Kan.

**SilverAlien**

Kanluwen wrote:
It's been color-swapped because all the model packaging has been as well.

Supposedly it has to do with the Vior'la colors of white, black, and red just looking much better for promotional material.

Yeah, it's the official color scheme every seems to like, it's the one I see most often these days.

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Kanluwen wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
Do we know what the order will be for the releases Tau, Necrons and Dark Eldar?

Purportedly, someone at the event asked and was told:
End of February for Drukhari
Early March for Tau
Necrons at the end of March

So does this count as confirming or refuting the OP if dark eldar jump the head of line, but Tau and necron are where they were expected?

**pretre**

SilverAlien wrote:
So does this count as confirming or refuting the OP if dark eldar jump the head of line, but Tau and necron are where they were expected?

Each part is individual, usually.

**dan2026**

I'll give them one thing.
They are certainly getting these 8th ed codexes out fast.

**MajorWesJanson**

dan2026 wrote:
I'll give them one thing.
They are certainly getting these 8th ed codexes out fast.

It's a good thing. I would like to see a few more model releases as well, but getting codices out fast means less time that some armies are left in the cold. And chapter approved is a great place to consolidate point adjustments and new units so new kits don't need to be tied to codex releases.

**tneva82**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
I'll give them one thing.
They are certainly getting these 8th ed codexes out fast.

It's a good thing. I would like to see a few more model releases as well, but getting codices out fast means less time that some armies are left in the cold. And chapter approved is a great place to consolidate point adjustments and new units so new kits don't need to be tied to codex releases.

Wish they wouldn't have forgotten quality with their haste to release codexes though.

**Darsath**

tneva82 wrote:
MajorWesJanson wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
I'll give them one thing.
They are certainly getting these 8th ed codexes out fast.

It's a good thing. I would like to see a few more model releases as well, but getting codices out fast means less time that some armies are left in the cold. And chapter approved is a great place to consolidate point adjustments and new units so new kits don't need to be tied to codex releases.

Wish they wouldn't have forgotten quality with their haste to release codexes though.

Hey man, maybe these codices are an opportunity to show something fantastic. From what has been floating around, they're wanting to make large mechanical changes to these factions, so hopefully whatever they release will be impressive.

**Grimtuff**

Irbis wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:
We're coming up in 10 years this year with no plastic Deffkoptas outside the starter (which was also discontinued 6 years ago)...

Can't you buy them right now in Vedros boxes?

Which are about as rare as rocking horse gak.

**Promethius**

An imperial agents book with a limited plastic sisters release has to be a good bet for gw, can't be said to be completely ignoring sisters players anymore and if they are very popular they can get their own book later

**Blackie**

Grimtuff wrote:
Irbis wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:
We're coming up in 10 years this year with no plastic Deffkoptas outside the starter (which was also discontinued 6 years ago)...

Can't you buy them right now in Vedros boxes?

Which are about as rare as rocking horse gak.

On ebay they're extremely common and according to the site, they're sold at something near 5$ per model. I'm talking about painted used models, but with a bit of patience you can find new models for cheap quite easily. I bought 3 of them, unpainted and unassembled, for approx 30$ including shipping.

**Geifer**

Promethius wrote:
An imperial agents book with a limited plastic sisters release has to be a good bet for gw, can't be said to be completely ignoring sisters players anymore and if they are very popular they can get their own book later

The last time they did that the limited Sisters release was a resin Canoness and they even went to the trouble of tossing Celestine's rules out of the codex because the new model wasn't released for another three or four weeks.

Followed by going out of their way to underline how great Celestine fits with every Imperial army (except Sisters).

I wouldn't use the words good and bet together when talking about Sisters. Just saying.

**dan2026**

Geifer wrote:
Promethius wrote:
An imperial agents book with a limited plastic sisters release has to be a good bet for gw, can't be said to be completely ignoring sisters players anymore and if they are very popular they can get their own book later

The last time they did that the limited Sisters release was a resin Canoness and they even went to the trouble of tossing Celestine's rules out of the codex because the new model wasn't released for another three or four weeks.

Followed by going out of their way to underline how great Celestine fits with every Imperial army (except Sisters).

I wouldn't use the words good and bet together when talking about Sisters. Just saying.

The resin canoness was so popular GW sold out instantly and nobody could buy it for ages.
Do you think GW won't want to capture that demand again?

**Chikout**

The resin canoness was released in December 2016. Gw has said it takes to or more years to take a range of mins from first concept art to release. If we assume the canoness really was a test to gauge the popularity of Sisters we should not expect a release until the end of 2018 at the earliest and we should not worry about Sisters being ignored until the middle of 2019.
I think we will see imperial knights in April with as gw tends to have their preview events cover 3 months or so.
The Ork cult of speed rumour is as about as reliable as they get, simply due to the wheel shot from the rumour engine.
Kind of excitingly I have no idea what other big miniature releases we will get this year.
Leman Russ and space wolves is possible. Emperors Children will probably be the next legion but maybe not till next year.
There is a rumour engine pic which looks very Eldar so we may have a ynnari release.
After six months of good but very predictable Deathguard and primaris releases it is nice to be in the dark.

**Geifer**

I always thought this hobby was better if one had something to look forward to rather than being in the dark, Chikout. Makes planning ahead easier and I find my most productive hobby phases are before new stuff hits. But to each their own.

dan2026 wrote:
Geifer wrote:
Promethius wrote:
An imperial agents book with a limited plastic sisters release has to be a good bet for gw, can't be said to be completely ignoring sisters players anymore and if they are very popular they can get their own book later

The last time they did that the limited Sisters release was a resin Canoness and they even went to the trouble of tossing Celestine's rules out of the codex because the new model wasn't released for another three or four weeks.

Followed by going out of their way to underline how great Celestine fits with every Imperial army (except Sisters).

I wouldn't use the words good and bet together when talking about Sisters. Just saying.

The resin canoness was so popular GW sold out instantly and nobody could buy it for ages.
Do you think GW won't want to capture that demand again?

With any other army I'd say sure, GW has an indication just how much money they're leaving on the table and being reasonably good businessmen, they'll do something about it as quickly as their schedule allows.

In the specific case of Sisters, no. I'm past the stage where I would give GW the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they will stop treating Sisters as a joke, but until I can walk into a store and buy a box of plastic Sisters, I'm not going to even consider the possibility that Sisters get anything at all from GW.

**Davor**

Geifer wrote:
I always thought this hobby was better if one had something to look forward to rather than being in the dark, Chikout. Makes planning ahead easier and I find my most productive hobby phases are before new stuff hits. But to each their own.

Oh so true. I believe this is one of the reasons why I put my stuff on hold lots of time. Always seem we are in the dark so I am afraid to actually glue my minis because they could become invalidated at any moment. Now I am just modeling to what ever I think is "rule of cool". Would be so much nicer to look forward to something so I can get excited for playing again. Right now, I am just enjoying the modelling hobby and not the gaming aspect anymore.

**Sim-Life**

tneva82 wrote:
MajorWesJanson wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
I'll give them one thing.
They are certainly getting these 8th ed codexes out fast.

It's a good thing. I would like to see a few more model releases as well, but getting codices out fast means less time that some armies are left in the cold. And chapter approved is a great place to consolidate point adjustments and new units so new kits don't need to be tied to codex releases.

Wish they wouldn't have forgotten quality with their haste to release codexes though.

Everyone from CWE seems pretty happy with their books from what I've seen.