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**the_scotsman**

Have we confirmed the rumor that Coldstars get real big boy guns yet? People seem to be throwing around the idea that he can be run as quad fusion, which I'd be incredibly into, but I want to be sure.

**the cosmic serpent**

the_scotsman wrote:
Have we confirmed the rumor that Coldstars get real big boy guns yet? People seem to be throwing around the idea that he can be run as quad fusion, which I'd be incredibly into, but I want to be sure.

Indeed he can it's GW's recommendation in the Vior'la sept overview they put out today.

From the article

"The XV86 has a strong claim to being the single most improved unit in the new Codex: T’au Empire, and is particularly powerful in a Vior’la Detachment. Previously, this aerial attack battlesuit had a fixed weapon set of a missile pod and a high-output burst cannon, but all that is changing. Now, you’ll be able to arm all four hardpoints on your Commander as you please, allowing for an array of powerful builds. What’s more, as all of these weapons have the Assault or Rapid Fire type, with the Vior’la Sept Tenet, you’ll be able to effectively move 40″ every turn and fire without penalty! We’d recommend equipping your Vior’la Commander with four fusion blasters for the ultimate tank hunter. Even if you end up overextending, the Neuroweb System Jammer Stratagem should help to keep you safe – or disrupt a key unit that’s threatening the rest of your army."

Vior'la is looking good for coldstars.

Edit: Out of place apostrophe

**Red Corsair**

Yea that is pretty filthy. About time they stopped with the silly limitations based on the sprue crap. Gives me hope for my DE characters and unit leaders now.

**Kanluwen**

Dandelion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Simple. Not many units have the option for HYMPs. The cost is therefore baked into the base unit (Broadside Battlesuit I believe).

Is it though? A broadside is now 60 pts and an iridium crisis suit is 57 pts.
The broadside has twice the missile shots and twice the wounds for the same price and gets more weapons and gear.

The Broadside also starts with a HRR; correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to pay for the basic weapon before replacing?

I can't directly find an answer at the moment and mostly have been playing Power levels rather than Points locally.

**Ghaz**

Kanluwen wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Simple. Not many units have the option for HYMPs. The cost is therefore baked into the base unit (Broadside Battlesuit I believe).

Is it though? A broadside is now 60 pts and an iridium crisis suit is 57 pts.
The broadside has twice the missile shots and twice the wounds for the same price and gets more weapons and gear.

The Broadside also starts with a HRR; correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to pay for the basic weapon before replacing?

I can't directly find an answer at the moment and mostly have been playing Power levels rather than Points locally.

No. You only pay points for the equipment the model is equipped with. If you replace stock equipment, you do not pay for it.

**Kanluwen**

Ghaz wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Simple. Not many units have the option for HYMPs. The cost is therefore baked into the base unit (Broadside Battlesuit I believe).

Is it though? A broadside is now 60 pts and an iridium crisis suit is 57 pts.
The broadside has twice the missile shots and twice the wounds for the same price and gets more weapons and gear.

The Broadside also starts with a HRR; correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to pay for the basic weapon before replacing?

I can't directly find an answer at the moment and mostly have been playing Power levels rather than Points locally.

No. You only pay points for the equipment the model is equipped with. If you replace stock equipment, you do not pay for it.

Do you have a link handy on that?

I went looking for it in the rulebooks and FAQs but couldn't find a definitive answer. I could have swore I saw something about it.

**Commander Skyblaze**

Kanluwen wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Simple. Not many units have the option for HYMPs. The cost is therefore baked into the base unit (Broadside Battlesuit I believe).

Is it though? A broadside is now 60 pts and an iridium crisis suit is 57 pts.
The broadside has twice the missile shots and twice the wounds for the same price and gets more weapons and gear.

The Broadside also starts with a HRR; correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to pay for the basic weapon before replacing?

I can't directly find an answer at the moment and mostly have been playing Power levels rather than Points locally.

The default equipment is not included in the point cost of the model in matched play. So if you take a broadside with a HRR and two plasma rifles, you add points for Broadside + HRR + Plasma Rifle + Plasma Rifle. If you swap out for two HYMP and two SMS, you add up the points for Broadside + HYMP + HYMP + SMS + SMS.

**Dandelion**

Kanluwen wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Simple. Not many units have the option for HYMPs. The cost is therefore baked into the base unit (Broadside Battlesuit I believe).

Is it though? A broadside is now 60 pts and an iridium crisis suit is 57 pts.
The broadside has twice the missile shots and twice the wounds for the same price and gets more weapons and gear.

The Broadside also starts with a HRR; correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to pay for the basic weapon before replacing?

I can't directly find an answer at the moment and mostly have been playing Power levels rather than Points locally.

No. You only pay points for the equipment the model is equipped with. If you replace stock equipment, you do not pay for it.

Do you have a link handy on that?

I went looking for it in the rulebooks and FAQs but couldn't find a definitive answer. I could have swore I saw something about it.

I believe it's in the wording for weapons loadouts. The default is the rail rifle, but you replace it with the HYMP. The crisis suit has the missile pod as default, which can also be replaced. Just like how scions replace their hot shot lasguns with special weapons.

**casvalremdeikun**

Well I'm definitely buying a Coldstar Commander to have. I like that I can make him have Fusion Blades. I probably won't go with four Fusion blasters on him, since that is kind of boring.

**the_scotsman**

Hotstar commander might be amusing. Viorla sept, 4x flamers, viorla flamer relic. Just run around torching things with wild abandon.

**Kanluwen**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well I'm definitely buying a Coldstar Commander to have. I like that I can make him have Fusion Blades. I probably won't go with four Fusion blasters on him, since that is kind of boring.

I'm leaning towards a Coldstar with the Supernova Launcher and an Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher, coupled with an Advanced Targeting System and Multi-Tracker. Debating between Bork'an or Sa'cea(Sa'cea lets you get Markerlight Flares-- while Bor'kan would let you reroll the number of attacks) for the Sept; or possibly ditching the Supernova Launcher and giving it the Vector relic as T'au.

**Nevermind**

Kanluwen wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Well I'm definitely buying a Coldstar Commander to have. I like that I can make him have Fusion Blades. I probably won't go with four Fusion blasters on him, since that is kind of boring.

I'm leaning towards a Coldstar with the Supernova Launcher and an Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher, coupled with an Advanced Targeting System and Multi-Tracker. Debating between Bork'an or Sa'cea(Sa'cea lets you get Markerlight Flares-- while Bor'kan would let you reroll the number of attacks) for the Sept; or possibly ditching the Supernova Launcher and giving it the Vector relic as T'au.

These are some cool loadouts. Looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with.

**Dandelion**

I'm going to give my current Coldstar the Onager Guantlet and Hero of the Enclaves. If I get an Enforcer suit I'm thinking AFP, Ion Blasters, ATS and Seismic Destabilizer (I usually play cities of death

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**Galas**

New lore in the codex from the WarhammerTV video with Peachy and Duncan
From:
https://www.lavozdehorus.com/duncan-y-peachy-adelantan-parte-del-nuevo-trasfondo-tau/

Spoiler:

**Slayer-Fan123**

Dandelion wrote:
I'm going to give my current Coldstar the Onager Guantlet and Hero of the Enclaves. If I get an Enforcer suit I'm thinking AFP, Ion Blasters, ATS and Seismic Destabilizer (I usually play cities of death )

I really do wish they gave a limit of two relics per character. Could you imagine the possibilities for models with the Fusion Blades AND the Onager Gauntlet? That's pretty badass in my head.

**Nevermind**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
I'm going to give my current Coldstar the Onager Guantlet and Hero of the Enclaves. If I get an Enforcer suit I'm thinking AFP, Ion Blasters, ATS and Seismic Destabilizer (I usually play cities of death )

I really do wish they gave a limit of two relics per character. Could you imagine the possibilities for models with the Fusion Blades AND the Onager Gauntlet? That's pretty badass in my head.

Haha, did you play in the 6th/7th? Buffmander was great but not great for the game

**Kanluwen**

Nevermind wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
I'm going to give my current Coldstar the Onager Guantlet and Hero of the Enclaves. If I get an Enforcer suit I'm thinking AFP, Ion Blasters, ATS and Seismic Destabilizer (I usually play cities of death )

I really do wish they gave a limit of two relics per character. Could you imagine the possibilities for models with the Fusion Blades AND the Onager Gauntlet? That's pretty badass in my head.

Haha, did you play in the 6th/7th? Buffmander was great but not great for the game

Buffmander wouldn't really play into it here, since you could limit it to "1 non-weapon Signature System". Basically everything in the Tau arsenal here is a weapon this time around.

**Mr_Rose**

I’m gonna say I feel disappointed by the “hunting hounds” stratagem.
I reckon the stratagem, with a 6" range instead, should just be an ability of Kroot Hounds. The Stratagem should be something like “Pack Ambush (1CP): extend the range of the ‘Hunting Hounds’ ability of one pack of Kroot Hounds to 18"”
That way the Hounds have a useful ability of their own and the stratagem represents traditional Kroot tactics as applied to the modern battlefield.

**Kanluwen**

Preorders are up on NZ.

I'm genuinely surprised that the Ethereal on Hover Drone wasn't made available by itself.

This picture right here made me actually buy this month's WD; glad I did!

**Desubot**

Kanluwen wrote:
Preorders are up on NZ.

I'm genuinely surprised that the Ethereal on Hover Drone wasn't made available by itself.

This picture right here made me actually buy this month's WD; glad I did!

Wait just one minute.... why is that marker drone shooting pulse rounds like everyone else. on the upper right side.

**ChargerIIC**

I can't look at that picture without muttering 'pew pew' under my breath

**Irbis**

Desubot wrote:
Wait just one minute.... why is that marker drone shooting pulse rounds like everyone else. on the upper right side.

I like two random Tau inside Chaos lines being ignored by all CSM and Daemons

As for drone, why is the picture so one-sided on upper part? You'd think with DG getting whole arsenal of drones of their own you'd see some sky duels but apparently only Tau are allowed to fly...

**Tastyfish**

Why go Vior'la Coldstar when you can just take a Coldstar warlord with Exemplar of Mont'ka - and advance (40") and shoot as if you hadn't advanced? Because you want to combine it with the shoot twice strat!

Unless you wanted a 4 flamer Vior'la Coldstar (or three and the fancy one) with Through Unity, then trigger the fire twice stratagem... 8D6 flamer attacks after a 40" jump which get -1 save on a 6 ( 2D6 S6 -2/3 save dmg 2 if you upgraded if you went nuclear). Or Precision of the Hunter with 8 fusion shots rerolling 1s to wound, netting you an expected 16.25 wounds before saves against a T8 target and 22 against a T7 one...

Shame they can't have the JSJ strat or relic though.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Nevermind wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Dandelion wrote:
I'm going to give my current Coldstar the Onager Guantlet and Hero of the Enclaves. If I get an Enforcer suit I'm thinking AFP, Ion Blasters, ATS and Seismic Destabilizer (I usually play cities of death )

I really do wish they gave a limit of two relics per character. Could you imagine the possibilities for models with the Fusion Blades AND the Onager Gauntlet? That's pretty badass in my head.

Haha, did you play in the 6th/7th? Buffmander was great but not great for the game

That was an issue with the character rules than anything else. 6th/7th had more fundamental issues than just that of course.

**winterman**

Tastyfish wrote:
Why go Vior'la Coldstar when you can just take a Coldstar warlord with Exemplar of Mont'ka - and advance (40") and shoot as if you hadn't advanced? Because you want to combine it with the shoot twice strat!

Vior'la shoot twice strat is infantry only - so crisis, commanders etc. are exempt from it. Stealth suits have infantry keyword in the index and presumably retain that based on the community post.

**Tastyfish**

Still thinking of them being Jetpack infantry, though does mean that Dal'yth and T'au versions are then able to jet out to 14/15" - leaving enough space to Manta strike something in between to make them harder to hit.

**xmbk**

Irbis wrote:
Desubot wrote:
Wait just one minute.... why is that marker drone shooting pulse rounds like everyone else. on the upper right side.

I like two random Tau inside Chaos lines being ignored by all CSM and Daemons

As for drone, why is the picture so one-sided on upper part? You'd think with DG getting whole arsenal of drones of their own you'd see some sky duels but apparently only Tau are allowed to fly...

That's the "Breach".

I think this pic shows the absurdity of char targeting.

**DaemonJellybaby**

Well, thats a Coldstar added to the shoppping list.

**BoomWolf**

the_scotsman wrote:
Hotstar commander might be amusing. Viorla sept, 4x flamers, viorla flamer relic. Just run around torching things with wild abandon.

Why bother with Vior'la when your shots are auto-hitting anyway?
Seriously, I just realized how silly it is that they of all septs got the special flamer.

**DaemonJellybaby**

Its so you can use the fire twice strat