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2018/03/06 23:47:34
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
ingtaer wrote: Well done on funding, I like some of your stuff but there is no way I could give money to anyone who works with Blue Table Painting.
Folks, I'm sorry, but I don't understand the issue...?
Are Heresy Labs BTP, or are they just a client?
And what's the drama?
(Not being snarky or sarcastic, honestly don't know the background to the above comments...)
"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
2018/03/07 12:48:54
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
They are at least in some form of partnership as the kickstarter is offering to have the minis be painted by BTP.
As for what is wrong with BTP just whack blue table painting controversy into google and have a read. The short of it is though they have behaved dishonestly and unethically in their treatment of members of the community.
On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire.
2018/03/07 15:12:26
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
Ouch I wasn't aware of BTP issues, I used them many years ago for some of my units, good service and results were as expected.
I have nothing to partner with them to be honest apart of having them paint one of my models.
I have contacted several painters to get my models done before the KS, I just wanted to give my backers an option to have them painted.
I asked pretty much all of the ones I used if they were interested in offering a deal, and BTP was kind enough to offer such service not only to his clients but to the backers of this KS.
I gave them my word on this offer and I will maintain it, is up to the customer to use them or not, I was trying to add some value to the KS.
For my .02, I like the commissar's pose. She's hurling herself backwards while John Woo'ing it into the approaching foe. I do think the pose would be served better if her back foot were off the ground, in mid backpedal, but overall I like the concept.
You've got a lot of boobplate, but mostly it's not excessive and they're otherwise appropriately armored so I can dig it. I mean, yeah, "not Slaanesh Noise Marine" is in a bikini, but Slaanesh, right? I would like to see an alt head for her with some wicked sonic themes to it, though, and I'd love to see some more angles on her blaster now that you're offering it separately.
I'm very likely in for at least a few of these.
2018/03/07 20:47:40
Subject: Re:HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
HeresyLab wrote: Ouch I wasn't aware of BTP issues, I used them many years ago for some of my units, good service and results were as expected.
I have nothing to partner with them to be honest apart of having them paint one of my models.
I have contacted several painters to get my models done before the KS, I just wanted to give my backers an option to have them painted.
I asked pretty much all of the ones I used if they were interested in offering a deal, and BTP was kind enough to offer such service not only to his clients but to the backers of this KS.
I gave them my word on this offer and I will maintain it, is up to the customer to use them or not, I was trying to add some value to the KS.
I will pay more attention next KS.
I just hope that it doesn't lead to any problems for your customers or yourselves. Still best of luck and I hope to pick some models up when they hit retail.
On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire.
2018/03/08 01:01:40
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
HeresyLab wrote: Ouch I wasn't aware of BTP issues, I used them many years ago for some of my units, good service and results were as expected.
I have nothing to partner with them to be honest apart of having them paint one of my models.
I have contacted several painters to get my models done before the KS, I just wanted to give my backers an option to have them painted.
I asked pretty much all of the ones I used if they were interested in offering a deal, and BTP was kind enough to offer such service not only to his clients but to the backers of this KS.
I gave them my word on this offer and I will maintain it, is up to the customer to use them or not, I was trying to add some value to the KS.
I will pay more attention next KS.
Thank you for clarifying that.
"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
"GW are hard to parody, as they are sometimes so stupid that the best in comedy couldn't beat them at their own game..." - Paradigm
2018/03/08 13:23:21
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
Please consider having another pre order option outside of KS at the conclusion of the campaign. All of my problem projects are first time creators so unfortunately I can no longer back first timers through that platform after seeing their version of accountability in action.
Alpharius Walks wrote: Please consider having another pre order option outside of KS at the conclusion of the campaign. All of my problem projects are first time creators so unfortunately I can no longer back first timers through that platform after seeing their version of accountability in action.
I already do. On my site heresylab.com there is a store item priced $1.00 that will grant you access to the pledge manager later
ingtaer wrote: They are at least in some form of partnership as the kickstarter is offering to have the minis be painted by BTP.
As for what is wrong with BTP just whack blue table painting controversy into google and have a read. The short of it is though they have behaved dishonestly and unethically in their treatment of members of the community.
omg, I never heard of this, just went and found the video of the models...Imagine my surprise when I found out that I am a professional grade painter! I used to paint people's armies if they'd let me play them for campaigns, back in the day, and I'd have been embarrassed do the work BTP was doing for free. Wowza.
2018/03/13 17:56:56
Subject: HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
Just got so busy with the KS and forgot to post updates here. Didn't expect such a fast growth. Over 1200% the first week and funded in 24 minutes... hard to keep up.
Liking the minis quite a lot - probably will back. Consider beefing up Cataryna though - that narrow waist is pretty extreme given she is wearing power armor - otherwise really like her face etc.
2018/03/26 21:05:09
Subject: Re:HERESYLAB - New Miniature Company - Kickstarter LIVE!
Which is good timing, I got my models from the first KS a few days ago - they are beautiful - I can't wait to get them painted up.
I think there was a bit of a delay with getting the models out, a PC breaking down and a delay form the supplier I think - but I think it was worth the wait in the end.
There was also a mixup with some options that were just STL files. They were labelled as such, I just completely missed it. It was pretty much my own fault, but HL have been very responsive so far to reaching a suitable arrangement.
All in all - would definitely back again. There were some teething problems sure, but I believe how you react to those problems is what matters.
I also selected the STL files instead of minis. I don't think they were as clearly labeled as Heresylab claims, because I remember trying to figure out what the catch was with the different price, worried it meant they were metal.
Which is good timing, I got my models from the first KS a few days ago - they are beautiful - I can't wait to get them painted up.
I think there was a bit of a delay with getting the models out, a PC breaking down and a delay form the supplier I think - but I think it was worth the wait in the end.
There was also a mixup with some options that were just STL files. They were labelled as such, I just completely missed it. It was pretty much my own fault, but HL have been very responsive so far to reaching a suitable arrangement.
All in all - would definitely back again. There were some teething problems sure, but I believe how you react to those problems is what matters.
THX
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I also selected the STL files instead of minis. I don't think they were as clearly labeled as Heresylab claims, because I remember trying to figure out what the catch was with the different price, worried it meant they were metal.
Either way, the minis that arrived look good.
BobtheInquisitor - I agree maybe not so clear - marked all files as STL and File Only for several in the title and for all in the description. But I am fixing them all as fast as I can. I will pay much more attention next KS.
Again thanks for the support and hope you like the product you received.
This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2018/08/31 19:32:02
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