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This might mean I actually finish a Knight army.

Brilliant models, but not a great deal of variety between lists.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I hope for Redemptor Dreadnought levels of possability.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for that. It has Ironstrider-esque legs and those are woefully unposeable.

Looking closely at the big image, the knee joint looks promising at first but the plastic wire in the back makes it seem woefully unlikely.

Looks to me like the upper leg (thigh, knee, shin) are single pieces, the lower leg is clearly two pieces though, so there's probably a degree of possability there, may require a minor modification.

The feet (toes?) are clearly sentinel/dreadnought style flat feet on round leg stubs.

I predict more poseable than a contemptor, probably requiring crisis suit levels of cutting to do something especially impressive.

I'm not as fond of the design as I am of the Knights, but I'm excited to see them mixed in. Really super curious about their unit type and what detachments they'll fit in.

It's a Dreadnought.

Between this, Witch Aelves, and a new Cryptek, LVO has given me a lot to be excited about!

 BrookM wrote:
In the email they showed it with a different head and stubber / Ad-mech gun thing that's also on their robots:

I think that's the "Heavy phosphor blaster". S6/AP-2/3 shoots/ignores cover. It's actually a pretty ok gun.

I also realized now too that the top gun in the 1st preview looks like some kinda of meltagun?

Now I realy want to know if that Multimelta looking gun arm is a normal Multi-melta or a melta cannon of some kind.

Edit:
Playing around in some art programs scaleing the two guns to figure out scale. The Torso is alittle shorter then a Kastelan's total height. Then the yes of the model is LOOOOOOOONNNNG legs.

Hopefully the Armigers are going to have more options that are not just versions of weapons already carried by IK.

Pretty cool model.
I hope they are quite cheap so you can take like maybe 2 IKs and then 4-5 of these little guys (but not have them OP in on of themselves).

Looks really cool. They've pitched it as Admech so I'm guessing it'll have a stat line based off of that. I like the idea of little war glaive mechs running at the feet of the larger knight.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Hopefully the Armigers are going to have more options that are not just versions of weapons already carried by IK.

I hope they get some other gun arm options. Hopefully things that help fill out roles missing for the knights Proper. I don't play the army but a bunch of melta guns for killing tanks doesn't seem like what their army needs.... Knight players usually complain about not alot of anti-hoard options.

The melta seems good for allying into other armies.

I really like these...but it's not enough to make me want a 40K IK army.

Now, if this is just a taster, and by the time the book comes out there are at least *rules* that would let me field a single IK, a couple of these Armigers, a couple of squads of Household infantry, a Sacristan, and maybe some normal-people-size cavalry? Sure, I'd be up for that. And no, Imperial Soup doesn't count, not the way keywords & traits & relics etc all work in 8th.

But "OK, you can have *slightly* smaller giant battle walkers" only makes me interested to see whether or not the Armigers make it into Adeptus Titanicus, ie the scale of game the big stuff actually belongs in as anything other than the odd centerpiece.

Cog pauldrons? COG PAULDRONS?

TAKE. MY. MONEY.

Warjack much?

Huh? Apart from being a bipedal robot, I don't see it. Less so than the Paladin, the Contemptor Dreadnought or the Chaos Desolator, that have all also been compared to Warjacks.

This totally took the wind out of my sails in terms of getting a Custodes army. I really look forward to seeing more of what these guys have. But if they are Ghostkeel sized, I am getting three of them.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Huh? Apart from being a bipedal robot, I don't see it. Less so than the Paladin, the Contemptor Dreadnought or the Chaos Desolator, that have all also been compared to Warjacks.

It's topheavy like one, with the exaggerated shoulders and hunched look. Hmmm...I do have some Juggernauts lying around that I could convert..

I much prefer the second head shown, the one eyed one just looks a bit wrong.

Hoping for other weapons options than the mega melta and chainsword, and more importantly 30K rules for them.

If we're lucky there'll be a selection of heads like the many face plates included with the regular Knights. Perhaps even, dare I say, some themed towards a Cogboy alliance, while others are more chivalric in look and feel.

I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

Will you look at that. And here I am slowly converting Stormfiends into mini-Knights for my Death Guard...I guess I won't need to run them as Helbrute count-as when they're done. The weapons would fit great, too.

Sigh. This is going to ve an expensive year.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

I am hoping for more like Redemptor-sized. Regular Dreadnoughts are a bit on the small side. My question is what role will they have? Fast Attack? Heavy Support? TROOPS?! And my next question is, will there be an HQ variant like what is being done with Custodes? Otherwise there really isn't a way to run these dudes in an All Knight list or detachment.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

I am hoping for more like Redemptor-sized. Regular Dreadnoughts are a bit on the small side. My question is what role will they have? Fast Attack? Heavy Support? TROOPS?! And my next question is, will there be an HQ variant like what is being done with Custodes? Otherwise there really isn't a way to run these dudes in an All Knight list or detachment.

I didn't want Dreadnought sized, I said dreadKNIGHT sized. So, yeah, about the same size as a Redemptor like you said. I think we are on the same page there. If they do make an Imperial Knights codex I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a special character Knight. They all ready have two in the background and in previous rules to use. Just include them.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

I am hoping for more like Redemptor-sized. Regular Dreadnoughts are a bit on the small side. My question is what role will they have? Fast Attack? Heavy Support? TROOPS?! And my next question is, will there be an HQ variant like what is being done with Custodes? Otherwise there really isn't a way to run these dudes in an All Knight list or detachment.

My hunch is you take them as 1-3 per Lord of War Slot. That way you can feild them in your existing Knight Household Armies.If you were to make them heavy support it would mess up the whole Knight army comp without adding a new Force Org.

The Other option would be for them to have a HQ, Troop, and Heavy Slot Variant so you can field a army mostly made up of them using most of the standard Force Orgs or a HQ+Heavy so you can use the Spear Head FoC.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

I am hoping for more like Redemptor-sized. Regular Dreadnoughts are a bit on the small side. My question is what role will they have? Fast Attack? Heavy Support? TROOPS?! And my next question is, will there be an HQ variant like what is being done with Custodes? Otherwise there really isn't a way to run these dudes in an All Knight list or detachment.

Maybe the codex will do something along the lines of what the 30K list did from Forge World: super-heavies with titles / ranks, or knowing GW, hamfistedly forcing certain chassis of knight into a certain slot / role.

 BrookM wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm actually hoping that these things are on the smaller end of the size estimates, somewhere around the 4.25 inches area. That would make them Dreadknight sized. Imperial knights don't need more superheavy walkers, they need point-gap fillers, something to screen for them, and rapid response. Something like the Dreadknight would do that for them.

Totally wishlisting here, but I'd love to see a variation of one with two twin-linked assault cannons for arms, and the Heavy phosphor blaster on the carapace. It would shred infantry and light vehicles.

I am hoping for more like Redemptor-sized. Regular Dreadnoughts are a bit on the small side. My question is what role will they have? Fast Attack? Heavy Support? TROOPS?! And my next question is, will there be an HQ variant like what is being done with Custodes? Otherwise there really isn't a way to run these dudes in an All Knight list or detachment.

Maybe the codex will do something along the lines of what the 30K list did from Forge World: super-heavies with titles / ranks, or knowing GW, hamfistedly forcing certain chassis of knight into a certain slot / role.

Just quick for people not familiar with the Title/Rank System. You pay points to give the knight suit a rank, witch decides what FoC slot it takes and a special Rule. Well a good system FoC shifting units is something it feels like GW has been wanting to get away from for awhile. As far as I'm aware their are no units with that mechanic in 8th. I also don't think they want to move the current knights out of the Lord of War Slots because that could be to powerful in regards to imperium soup armies.

Like I said. My hunch is prob 1-3 in a lord of war slot.

So... Yet another un-needed new model for a un-needed army. This is great.

We still have the same basic CSM from almost 20 years ago... The same old old ugly imperial guard regiments from 25+ years ago, the same imperial guard tanks from the same time, the same eldar falcon and vyper, same ork infantry, same ork vehicles... aaaand dare i say it? The same goddamned ugly sisters of battle from twenty-some or more years ago... And many other things that i cannot remember...

But GW release instead a full new army of golden dudes, and now a new (and totally needed and asked for... ) little-knight. So i guess next step is having plastic titans, so we can have the proper full "EPIC 40k in 28 mm." experience.


Seems totally fine.

 Warpspy wrote:
So... Yet another un-needed new model for a un-needed army. This is great.

We still have the same basic CSM from almost 20 years ago... The same old old ugly imperial guard regiments from 25+ years ago, the same imperial guard tanks from the same time, the same eldar falcon and vyper, same ork infantry, same ork vehicles... aaaand dare i say it? The same goddamned ugly sisters of battle from twenty-some or more years ago... And many other things that i cannot remember...

But GW release instead a full new army of golden dudes, and now a new (and totally needed and asked for... ) little-knight. So i guess next step is having plastic titans, so we can have the proper full "EPIC 40k in 28 mm." experience.


Seems totally fine.

The Chimeria and Leeman Russ tanks were redone with the 5th ed gaurd book, and are newer than the current plastic cadians. I know because I remember building the old style kits with the wheels.

Checking, that puts in back in 2009, so 9 years ago. TBH they are still great kits up to the modern standards.

The plastic cadian came out with the 3.5 codex I believe? So 2003? That makes them 15 years old, and they really show their age. The catachans older still, and OH BOY. The Catachan/Cadian command squads came out in '09 and the catachan parts don't even fit on the old catachan infantry models because of the huge gap in sculpting quality. None of the older plastic guard kits aged well AT ALL.

 Warpspy wrote:
So... Yet another un-needed new model for a un-needed army. This is great.

We still have the same basic CSM from almost 20 years ago... The same old old ugly imperial guard regiments from 25+ years ago, the same imperial guard tanks from the same time, the same eldar falcon and vyper, same ork infantry, same ork vehicles... aaaand dare i say it? The same goddamned ugly sisters of battle from twenty-some or more years ago... And many other things that i cannot remember...

But GW release instead a full new army of golden dudes, and now a new (and totally needed and asked for... ) little-knight. So i guess next step is having plastic titans, so we can have the proper full "EPIC 40k in 28 mm." experience.


Seems totally fine.

Go to any wishlisting thread, and you'll find IK players asking for exactly this along with infantry support troops.

 Warpspy wrote:
So... Yet another un-needed new model for a un-needed army. This is great.

We still have the same basic CSM from almost 20 years ago... The same old old ugly imperial guard regiments from 25+ years ago, the same imperial guard tanks from the same time, the same eldar falcon and vyper, same ork infantry, same ork vehicles... aaaand dare i say it? The same goddamned ugly sisters of battle from twenty-some or more years ago... And many other things that i cannot remember...

But GW release instead a full new army of golden dudes, and now a new (and totally needed and asked for... ) little-knight. So i guess next step is having plastic titans, so we can have the proper full "EPIC 40k in 28 mm." experience.


Seems totally fine.

Is the only thing you are capable of whining? If you are going to complain, at least keep it in one of threads instead of spreading your misery around.

Well that is an interesting kit. I too hope it's a bit smaller than the guesstimate scale photo shows. Guess it looks llke I have an excuse to built that knight that's kicking around somewhere.