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They should put it in Minnesota. Right across the street from Fantasy Flight's game store/cafe/restaurant/bar.

So Warhammer Cafe - a bunch of young women dressed as 40k characters serving tea?

Or am I going the wrong direction with this?

If the locals don't refer to it as 'Waaaaaghbucks' then I can't see the point in anything anymore.

 ScarletRose wrote:
So Warhammer Cafe - a bunch of young women dressed as 40k characters serving tea?

Or am I going the wrong direction with this?

You’re thinkings Of Shootas

It'll be like those cat cafes people visit to play with cats, only this will have hardcore Warhammer player roaming around and stealing the sandwiches

 ScarletRose wrote:
So Warhammer Cafe - a bunch of young women dressed as 40k characters serving tea?

Or am I going the wrong direction with this?

We also need dudes in power armour obv.



"HERE IS YOUR DRINK CITIZEN."

 BrookM wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:
So Warhammer Cafe - a bunch of young women dressed as 40k characters serving tea?

Or am I going the wrong direction with this?

We also need dudes in power armour obv.



"HERE IS YOUR DRINK CITIZEN."

Barista SM: What will you have citizen?!

Gamer: Um, chai tea, please?

Barista SM: WRONG! You will have this. *slides a cup across the counter*
*drinks*

Gamer: *sips* UGH! why is this coffee salty?

Barista SM: It is made from gamer tears from over several decades, and Folgers.

If you go in dressed as a Commisar, will a staff member be your Jurgen?

 Desubot wrote:
Its a cool old idea.

Its basically the bunker but has been renamed to something much less......gamery?

Everything comes around again for GW eventually. Since they're back to producing and selling board games and supporting stores and events, it makes sense that the bunker concept would return also.

I guess GW wants some HQ2-style suspense about the location.

Or they’re trying to judge reaction, and where from.

Could lead to additional ones dotted around?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Or they’re trying to judge reaction, and where from.

Could lead to additional ones dotted around?

I could see that.

The biggest problem I have with this is when they say cafe do they really mean cafe as in coffee shop style?
Or are they really thinking a small counter with 3-4 pots of coffee and a vending machine with snacks in it? Sort of like something you would see at a gas station.

My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

Throwin in the bid for Toronto and all the board game hip folks that enjoy fair-trade coffee in this corner of North America. Can't bring a cafe to North America without opening a location in the Great White North eh? Besides, Canada, unlike Cadia, still exists.

 Galas wrote:
My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

The biggest danger - it gets used as a cheap daycare for smelly children. It happened to an internet cafe I went to - $20 for a full day pass = cheaper than a babysitter.

 Galas wrote:
My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

Oh I don't doubt the pull of coffee, I drink it every day.

I just doubt their use of the word cafe.

Some places use the term cafe very loosely and what they provide is not at all what the word implies. I am just wondering if this will be the same situation?

Daedalus81 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

The biggest danger - it gets used as a cheap daycare for smelly children. It happened to an internet cafe I went to - $20 for a full day pass = cheaper than a babysitter.

Small children are very dangerous, yes. 10 years should be the younger a child can be there without adult supervision. But at the end of the day it depends of the child. My little cousin played Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition with my when he was 10 years old. I know guys with 15 that are like a children when it comes down to have respect for others and to know how to behave.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Or they’re trying to judge reaction, and where from.

Could lead to additional ones dotted around?

My guess is that this one is about proof of concept rather than finding the 'ideal' spot across the entire country.

Sounds cool! Unfortunately the closest cities to me that I could see this even being somewhat viable would be Dallas, Austin, and maybe Denver.

Another vote for Seattle (or slightly north).
I don't know if it fits their MO any more, but they used to find crowded marketplaces and move in. It would be a bit trickier in this case, but the Seattle market has a handful of these gamer cafes and they seem to be doing well here.

I think it may actually be less risky than a normal store for them. Rather than having to depend entirely on sales from the games themselves, having a cafe allows you to even out the income flow with transactions that aren't tied to specific games or model releases. It also (hopefully) serves as a way to monetize people meeting there for a game, without actually charging for table space.

I alway try to buy something at my FLGS when we are playing there, but sometimes there's just nothing that I need and I end up buying a soda or something. An option like this would allow me to financially support my store a bit more even when I've got all the models/paint/brushes I need at the moment.

Sounds like it is going to be in Dallas, since that is where the retail HQ offices are.

 Galas wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

The biggest danger - it gets used as a cheap daycare for smelly children. It happened to an internet cafe I went to - $20 for a full day pass = cheaper than a babysitter.

Small children are very dangerous, yes. 10 years should be the younger a child can be there without adult supervision. But at the end of the day it depends of the child. My little cousin played Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition with my when he was 10 years old. I know guys with 15 that are like a children when it comes down to have respect for others and to know how to behave.

Guys... There is nothing dangerous about kids.
Seriously, it would be good to get more children into the hobby. Or else there isn't going to be a 40k anymore in 10-20 years. Kids are fun if you know how to interact with them. But if you think they are annoying, just ignore them.

Da Butcha wrote:
I think it may actually be less risky than a normal store for them. Rather than having to depend entirely on sales from the games themselves, having a cafe allows you to even out the income flow with transactions that aren't tied to specific games or model releases. It also (hopefully) serves as a way to monetize people meeting there for a game, without actually charging for table space.

I alway try to buy something at my FLGS when we are playing there, but sometimes there's just nothing that I need and I end up buying a soda or something. An option like this would allow me to financially support my store a bit more even when I've got all the models/paint/brushes I need at the moment.

That’s a fair point. And I honestly don’t know if the wider Hobby currently caters to that?

After all, if you’ve got younger peeps showing up, somewhere for the parents to grab a cup of tea and a nice bit sit down is money in your pocket they’d likely spend round the corner?

It may only be say $10 a head, but if you get ten a day, that soon adds up over the year. And I’d say the cost and number I used may be conservative, depending on the other facilities they offer gamers.

It will be in LA: Where everyone needs to be, but nobody wants to be.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Galas wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
My local Great Mall put a Starbuck store in his lower floor, just at the side of one of the entrances, with windows to the exterior, etc...
It EXPLODED in customers, and it was a very high number of them even before.

Don't underestimate how physycally and socially addicted people is to coffe. If the "Cafe" part of the "Warhammer Cafe" is good enough, people could just enter for coffe. And then is a matter of time until they start playing warhammer.
Is the kind of business parents go to let their childrens play where they are speaking for hours.

The biggest danger - it gets used as a cheap daycare for smelly children. It happened to an internet cafe I went to - $20 for a full day pass = cheaper than a babysitter.

Small children are very dangerous, yes. 10 years should be the younger a child can be there without adult supervision. But at the end of the day it depends of the child. My little cousin played Warhammer Fantasy 6th edition with my when he was 10 years old. I know guys with 15 that are like a children when it comes down to have respect for others and to know how to behave.

Guys... There is nothing dangerous about kids.
Seriously, it would be good to get more children into the hobby. Or else there isn't going to be a 40k anymore in 10-20 years. Kids are fun if you know how to interact with them. But if you think they are annoying, just ignore them.

Oh I totally agree. But theres a balance to be made. Adults can totally be as bad or worse than children in behaving in social spaces. But at the end of the day we all know theres children that... well. The problem in those cases is not the children, is the fathers.

 BaconSlayer wrote:
Sounds like it is going to be in Dallas, since that is where the retail HQ offices are.

I'd be 100% okay with that. 6hrs isn't too far to drive for a special event.

 EnTyme wrote:

 BaconSlayer wrote:
Sounds like it is going to be in Dallas, since that is where the retail HQ offices are.

I'd be 100% okay with that. 6hrs isn't too far to drive for a special event.

As long as you do it in the eight months before they determine it isn't sustainable...

Memphis. in the gigantic closed off gaming space of the Battle Bunker.

I mean they already pay for the space and aren't using it.

One of our local GW Stores just announced it would be in Dallas. Not certain if they jumped the gun or are screwing with us

 BaconSlayer wrote:
Sounds like it is going to be in Dallas, since that is where the retail HQ offices are.

If I was going to hazard a guess, that'd be mine too.