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GW Cafe? Gamers drink beer and monster. If it is for moms, does GW really think they will really want to eat there just because it is a place to bring the kids? (I do not think moms really chow down at chuck e cheese)

I understand why GW would want to go into the market though. People who shop at starbucks readily pay much higher than market price for things.

Speak for yourself. I'm a tea and wine drinker. If it turns out to be a sort of cross with Bugman's and a well kept store, it could work very well. Pub style food with a large, open gaming area, could be a good place to waste an afternoon and evening.

So...will the coffee cost 5 times the normal price and take them 5 years to serve it to you, twice as long if you're a sisters player?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So...will the coffee cost 5 times the normal price and take them 5 years to serve it to you, twice as long if you're a sisters player?

So a typical Starbucks then?

Anyone making comment on the prices should take a trip down if they can, you'll be very surprised.

Just don't go in the GW side of the shop, I've never seen staff drilled for the hard sale more than there, it's awful.

Tannhauser42 wrote:
Have you ever actually driven to Dallas? Just wanted to make sure your estimate of 6 hours is based on experience.

Many a time. It takes 6 - 6.5 hours to get from my hometown (Amarillo) to just about anywhere in DFW unless you get there at rush hour.

mononides wrote:

....Dallas......?

Corporate offices are already there, one of the largest gaming communities in the country, and DFW is the largest city in one of the most populous states. Also, the cost of living is significantly lower in Dallas than other cities of similar size in the country. That means operation costs will be lower.

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Anyone making comment on the prices should take a trip down if they can, you'll be very surprised.

Totally agree.

The beer is well kept, the portions are plenty bordering on generous, the food is decent quality (certainly beyond most Pub Grub). Heck, they even cook the burgers to your liking.

This isn't 'hot water and instant coffee, charge a fiver'. This is legitimate fare they give a damn about.

So a typical Starbucks then?

Only if they stubbornly misspell your name.

Although if they do go the Starbucks route, they could introduce dumb names for different coffee sizes too. Primaris could be a large and Astartes for a small.

XuQishi wrote:

So a typical Starbucks then?

Only if they stubbornly misspell your name.

Barista: Double-Abbadon Black for Alpharuss? Oh, Sorry, Alpharius?

Entire Cafe: I AM ALPHARIUS

Barista: Goddamn nerds....

 ChargerIIC wrote:

XuQishi wrote:

So a typical Starbucks then?

Only if they stubbornly misspell your name.

Barista: Double-Abbadon Black for Alpharuss? Oh, Sorry, Alpharius?

Entire Cafe: I AM ALPHARIUS

Barista: Goddamn nerds....

Oooo, I so want this to be a thing!

Have an exalt. And maybe send it to the Warhammer World suggestion box...

 Kirasu wrote:

Chicago is where most international shipping goes first
Texas is texas with a gak of military people
Southern california has people + income (lots of navy and marines)
north east has lots of geeks with disposable income
Flordia+Georgia has a lot of people, money and tech as well (again lots of military)

Interesting. You reckon military folks are a significant section of GW's customer base in the US, significant enough that it should substantially affect GW decision making?

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Anyone making comment on the prices should take a trip down if they can, you'll be very surprised.

Just don't go in the GW side of the shop, I've never seen staff drilled for the hard sale more than there, it's awful.

Am I missing something? AFAIK There's literally one entrance into Warhammer World and you have to go through the GW store.

I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

That's actually one of my own biggest beefs, even as an adult, about dealing with gamers in general. I don't have kids so I can only imagine how frustrating it can be for parents.

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

I'm a lucky fella, people here keep it civil even in heated moments in tournaments, etc... maybe because normally when we play the stores have many other customers that aren't into warhammer, and are playing MTG, or just painting, and theres normally girls and kids.
But I agree, I have gone to one of those "boys-club" stores and... no more. (And I say this as someone that couldn't be more offensive when its with his friends in private. But as adults we know how to behave in public spaces)

 BrotherGecko wrote:

Nvs wrote:
The US is a big place. Where will it be?

My interest in the hobby died off significantly after the Games Days left and they shuttered the HQ store in Maryland.

Awesome! But where is it?

......don't be west coast don't be west coast don't be west coast....

Sorry, adding my chant to nullify yours...

......please be west coast please be west coast please be west coast....

Thebiggesthat wrote:Anyone making comment on the prices should take a trip down if they can, you'll be very surprised.

Just don't go in the GW side of the shop, I've never seen staff drilled for the hard sale more than there, it's awful.

That's not the experience I had with the staff while I was there.

Tokhuah wrote:I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

Maybe Im just lucky in that, I've never had such an experience or witnessed such a thing in any of the game stores I've been to, ever. Swearing is always at a minimum, and sexual talk is next to non-existent.

Also nice sweeping generalization of people's life experiences, projecting former issues much?

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

I feel your pain. Seems like there's a whole community of gamers that believe that FLGS should be some kind of safe space for 30 year old males of a certain racial line that don't like differences. Had games interrupted last monday by someone downstairs loudly elucidating why women should be banned from the hobby lest they infect us with their political correctness. I could see the woman manning the register just headdesk quietly.

There aren't many of them, but darn these guys are loud.

ChargerIIC wrote:

XuQishi wrote:

So a typical Starbucks then?

Only if they stubbornly misspell your name.

Barista: Double-Abbadon Black for Alpharuss? Oh, Sorry, Alpharius?

Entire Cafe: I AM ALPHARIUS

Barista: Goddamn nerds....

I appreciated that hearty chuckle.

Fango wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

Nvs wrote:
The US is a big place. Where will it be?

My interest in the hobby died off significantly after the Games Days left and they shuttered the HQ store in Maryland.

Awesome! But where is it?

......don't be west coast don't be west coast don't be west coast....

Sorry, adding my chant to nullify yours...

......please be west coast please be west coast please be west coast....

You've cursed it to the mid-west!! You Fool!!!

Pegasus Hobbies hired the loudest such man and put him in charge of their wargaming section. It's almost performance art at this point. most people probably assume he's being ironic.

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
I feel your pain. Seems like there's a whole community of gamers that believe that FLGS should be some kind of safe space for 30 year old males of a certain racial line that don't like differences. Had games interrupted last monday by someone downstairs loudly elucidating why women should be banned from the hobby lest they infect us with their political correctness. I could see the woman manning the register just headdesk quietly.

And everyone on the bus clapped

I hear about these things a lot. Yet in all my years of gaming in several cities across the United States, I've never seen this. And yes, I have doubts. And I almost believe in bigfoot. The nicest way I can say this is that I think you're both leaving out some significant facts, but I've been wrong before. Forgive me if I take what you say with a grain of salt, but believe me when I say that if these instances are as you say- then it says a lot about your gaming community not having the sack to deal with it.

I'll say this, and I don't really worry that it's offensive- I've seen two kinds of people complaining about this thing. Shrieking drama queen outrage fetishists say that gaming is 'hostile to women'. Noodle-armed, stinking, rude gooniebeards that are outright repulsive to the opposite sex complain that 'something' is running off the women (totally not them, though, right?). Meanwhile, every other well-adjusted adult (male, female, and whatever combo you feel like) are just enjoying the games and having fun regardless of our differences.

It's almost as if gaming communities are outright hostile to toxic people that aren't there to play games, but for more sinister purposes. I can honestly say that a lot of the people that come out claiming that gaming has made them feel 'unwelcome' are the exact sort of troublemakers I WANT to feel unwelcome.

Yes, there's pigs and pervs and bigots. If you're seeing this regularly, in truth, you probably need to stop rolling your eyes and nodding silently and DO something.

I complain about kids, primarily the ones that have selfish scumbag parents that don't do parenting, and get buttmad and expect the rest of the establishment to just tolerate it. The kids may not know better, but the 'parent' does. You don't take a mean-ass uncut pit bull to a dog park if he hasn't been properly socialized. I know it sounds awful to compare kids to dogs, but the whole 'you are responsible for the behavior and dealing with it' still stands.

But we've sidetracked.

$15.00 per hour minimum wage + absurd taxes = There's not a snowball's chance in hell this will be on the west coast.

My bet is Chicago or Baltimore / DC area. My luck however, it'll be Chicago. SOoo... Congratulations Chicago!

 oni wrote:
$15.00 per hour minimum wage + absurd taxes = There's not a snowball's chance in hell this will be on the west coast.

My bet is Chicago or Baltimore / DC area. My luck however, it'll be Chicago. SOoo... Congratulations Chicago!

Thats what I was thinking i'm amused anyone think a place like this could last in the west coast...LA or California in general. It's too expensive here, in my time in LA i've seen numerous gaming stores close down. Only one left within driving distance now is the westminister place, which used to be a battle bunker and a good store...but now it's been downsized and communities have died off over time. I see no point in driving half an hour to get there to pay full price plus CA sales tax at the westminister store, screw that...ain't gonna happen. Not gonna pay that when there are half as many tables as there once were and specialist games aren't supported very well in store. I have nothing positive to say abouts GWs presence in los angeles.

I might be missing something, but I was reading it as there would be several of these places.

"The Warhammer Cafe will also act as a hub for the Warhammer hobby in North America, hosting guests from the Design Studio..."

I'm betting this hints that it will be centralized and close to a major airport. This would also point towards Chicago as it's central and O'Hare is one the busiest airports in NA.

I suspect the first one will be close to an established GW location. The US is different than the UK in that many locations are not a 4 hour train ride away.

The first location will be an experiment that needs close monitoring...then expansion if successful.

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

Kids can be a handful. But it tends to be some of the adult clientele that are the object lessons for why I'd never want to own a game store. And yeah, I had girlfriends give me the "I want to leave NOW" look in certain stores. Now, my wife generally avoids going in them, but most of the places I frequent these days are a little friendlier, I think.

I'm sure the Cafe will be a friendly place for all ages.

 gorgon wrote:

 Tokhuah wrote:
I cannot believe people complain about kids in this thread. The real issue is misanthropic ADULT gamers who think it is cool to swear and talk about sexual stuff they have never experienced while gaming. My wife and kid went into a GW store with me once and were disgusted at the so-called adults. It was literally a hostile environment for families. The positive take-away was that my wife came to a better understanding why gamer culture is generally girlfriend challenged.

Kids can be a handful. But it tends to be some of the adult clientele that are the object lessons for why I'd never want to own a game store. And yeah, I had girlfriends give me the "I want to leave NOW" look in certain stores. Now, my wife generally avoids going in them, but most of the places I frequent these days are a little friendlier, I think.

I'm sure the Cafe will be a friendly place for all ages.

when was the last time you saw kids(someone more than likely less than 17 years old) hanging out in a starbucks or an actual coffee house? personally, never.

 Just Tony wrote:
I wonder how they would feel about my brother and I coming there and playing 6th Ed. WFB?

For what it's worth Warhammer World allows people to play any GW game, in or out of print.