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Wow, do they not have a clue about scale. "A short hop away"? What? Is it even near any destination spot that determined GW fans can use as a pretext for a trip to Texas?
Also, as a Californian, the name "Grapevine" kicks in my fight-or-flight nerves and breaks me into a cold sweat.
It's right next to DFW Airport, so there's that. And it's central to the metroplex, so it works locally too. I'm sure more than location came into the decision though.
is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less. (But at the same time USA is bigger than Europe so yeah, probably I'm lookin at that map with the wrong scale-glasses )
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It seems like a sensible choice. If they put it in La or new York it would be a considerable journey for those on the other coast, and as someone who is used to 12 hour flights, 3 or 4 hours does seem like a short hop. Grapevine is probably a pretty cheap place to go too. If this is successful they can add another on each coast and a fourth in Chicago. That would have America pretty well covered.
Now they just need to open a cafe in Japan.
Whumbachumba wrote: It's right next to DFW Airport, so there's that. And it's central to the metroplex, so it works locally too. I'm sure more than location came into the decision though.
Are there any famous museums, amusement parks or national monuments within an hours' drive?
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less.
'Middle of the U.S.' doesn't mean much when a large potion of the population is located on either coast. It would be better centrally located to the largest portion of the population as possible, and that's about a thousand miles to the northeast.
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Whumbachumba wrote: It's right next to DFW Airport, so there's that. And it's central to the metroplex, so it works locally too. I'm sure more than location came into the decision though.
Are there any famous museums, amusement parks or national monuments within an hours' drive?
Could we game in the basement of the Alamo?
Six Flags over Texas in Arlington. Perot, Nasher, Dallas Museum of Art, Kimbell, and more. Then there is all of downtown Ft. Worth and Dallas, with places like Dealey Plaza and the 6th Floor Museum to visit. Most of these places are within an hour with normal traffic.
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less. (But at the same time USA is bigger than Europe so yeah, probably I'm lookin at that map with the wrong scale-glasses )
Well, as an example for me that'd be about a 4 hour flight ranging in about $200, or a 32 hour drive from Seattle, WA. So... yeah, not gonna happen since I'm not making that much of a trip for just that. A lot of non-US folks don't understand just how damn big this place is.
Whumbachumba wrote: It's right next to DFW Airport, so there's that. And it's central to the metroplex, so it works locally too. I'm sure more than location came into the decision though.
Are there any famous museums, amusement parks or national monuments within an hours' drive?
Could we game in the basement of the Alamo?
Six Flags over Texas in Arlington. Perot, Nasher, Dallas Museum of Art, Kimbell, and more. Then there is all of downtown Ft. Worth and Dallas, with places like Dealey Plaza and the 6th Floor Museum to visit. Most of these places are within an hour with normal traffic.
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less.
'Middle of the U.S.' doesn't mean much when a large potion of the population is located on either coast. It would be better centrally located to the largest portion of the population as possible, and that's about a thousand miles to the northeast.
Which means that the other Coast has to fly much farther across the states to reach this place.
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less.
'Middle of the U.S.' doesn't mean much when a large potion of the population is located on either coast. It would be better centrally located to the largest portion of the population as possible, and that's about a thousand miles to the northeast.
Which means that the other Coast has to fly much farther across the states to reach this place.
I'm not sure that makes much of a difference. Once a plane flight becomes a necessity, does the distance really matter? I would honestly prefer to have to fly all the way to the other coast than have a shorter flight to an area I could never convince my wife to visit. It's not like most people can afford the time or money to fly out to visit Warhammer Cafe at all, anyway.
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less.
'Middle of the U.S.' doesn't mean much when a large potion of the population is located on either coast. It would be better centrally located to the largest portion of the population as possible, and that's about a thousand miles to the northeast.
Which means that the other Coast has to fly much farther across the states to reach this place.
Never said it was perfect, it just happens that is where it would be within a one day drive (11 hours) of the largest portion of the U.S. population (approximately 50%). Ideally the U.S. needs at least two, one centrally located for the majority of the East Coast and Midwest and one for the West Coast.
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2018/02/08 00:39:58
Subject: Re:Warhammer Cafe, coming to North America.
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I live in Fort Worth, so Grapevine is an easy place to go for me. I wonder where in Grapevine they'll put it. They used to have a store in Grapevine Mills Mall that did well, until GW inexplicably decided to pull their stores out of all high-traffic areas. It'll probably be somewhere close by to there, with all the other shops and hotels like the Gaylord and Great Wolf Lodge. If they plop it in the mall itself, I hope they install an outside entrance so it can stay open beyond when the mall closes.
Hopefully it will have more than just coffee and snacks. If they go all in and make it like Bugman's and make it a bar and grill, it could do even better. But, I can see problems with trying to have a games store that also serves alcohol on the side. Problems with the permits, licenses, and parents who think a game store is a place to dump their children but ohmygodthedevil'sbrewisservedthere.
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2018/02/08 00:42:18
Subject: Re:Warhammer Cafe, coming to North America.
Galas wrote: is that a good place? At least it seems is on the middle of USA. More or less.
'Middle of the U.S.' doesn't mean much when a large potion of the population is located on either coast. It would be better centrally located to the largest portion of the population as possible, and that's about a thousand miles to the northeast.
Which means that the other Coast has to fly much farther across the states to reach this place.
Never said it was perfect, it just happens that is where it would be within a one day drive (11 hours) of the largest portion of the U.S. population (approximately 50%). Ideally the U.S. needs at least two, one centrally located for the majority of the East Coast and Midwest and one for the West Coast.
A better question is what percentage of the population within area's actually purchases GW products.
Dallas area is fine. It's one of the largest metros in the country in a large high population multi-metro state. Dallas area has quite a bit to do and it's a day trip to several neat things from the Dallas area. And of the 4 most likely locations (DC Area, LA area, Chicago area, and Dallas) it's by far the best cost wise, travel wise, wage wise, and has the added benefit of being near their HQ.
I expect a Chicago one at some point along with an east and west coast one. I expect the middle of the country to get them first just due to how well their stores used to do in those areas as well as the cost to benefit ratios they provide.
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Hulksmash wrote: Dallas area is fine. It's one of the largest metros in the country in a large high population multi-metro state. Dallas area has quite a bit to do and it's a day trip to several neat things from the Dallas area. And of the 4 most likely locations (DC Area, LA area, Chicago area, and Dallas) it's by far the best cost wise, travel wise, wage wise, and has the added benefit of being near their HQ.
I expect a Chicago one at some point along with an east and west coast one. I expect the middle of the country to get them first just due to how well their stores used to do in those areas as well as the cost to benefit ratios they provide.
All good points. probably the cheapest real estate they could get near a major international airport hub. Same goes for wages I would imagine. Flights in and out would be relatively cheap for most, as it is a major layover/connection hub and is fairly centrally located.
For anyone who is into FFGRPGs, Star Wars in particular, GamerNationCon is held near the Dallas/Ft. Worth area (Plano, IIRC) every Feb/March (I think they are on number 4 or 5 now?). It is put on by the nice folks over at the Order 66 Podcast... For me, at least, this would be an incentive to make the trip (once the Cafe is established, of course) and hit both in the same weekend...
We’ve got a quick update for you today on the Warhammer Cafe.
Since we announced the Cafe last week, we’ve been inundated with emails and Facebook messages asking us where exactly this great new Warhammer venue will be making its home. Well, you need wonder no longer.
The Warhammer Cafe will be located in Grapevine, Texas.
We thought long and hard about where to open the first Warhammer Cafe, and Grapevine ticked a lot of boxes. For one, there’s a fantastic Warhammer community already in Texas, and we thought they could make great use of a hub for their hobby activity. For another, Grapevine is superbly connected to the rest of Texas – particularly Austin, Dallas and Fort Worth – and indeed, most importantly, to the rest of North America, thanks to the Dallas Fort Worth International Airport. Chances are, wherever you are in the United States, you’ll only be a short hop away.
Next up, we need an exceptional manager to run the venue – and the hunt begins today! If you think you’ve got what it takes to run the greatest Warhammer venue in all of North America, then check out the ad and drop us an application.
When you take over a new operation in Dallas this week 10 min from Grapevine. WIN
Whumbachumba wrote: It's right next to DFW Airport, so there's that. And it's central to the metroplex, so it works locally too. I'm sure more than location came into the decision though.
Are there any famous museums, amusement parks or national monuments within an hours' drive?
Could we game in the basement of the Alamo?
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2018/02/08 03:59:22
Subject: Re:Warhammer Cafe, coming to North America.
Not exactly local, but I could hitch a ride on Large Marge’s rig for a portion of the journey.
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2018/02/08 04:19:40
Subject: Re:Warhammer Cafe, coming to North America.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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Dallas / Ft. Worth is a major hub. Close to command and control US to monitor and large enough to support a location.
With that said, how many people will fly there?
It's not a day trip. So you have to commit to a weekend meaning flight + hotel + food + other costs. It's like going to a convention if you do not live within a 100 miles.
We’ve got a quick update for you today on the Warhammer Cafe.
Since we announced the Cafe last week, we’ve been inundated with emails and Facebook messages asking us where exactly this great new Warhammer venue will be making its home. Well, you need wonder no longer.
The Warhammer Cafe will be located in Grapevine, Texas.
We thought long and hard about where to open the first Warhammer Cafe, and Grapevine ticked a lot of boxes. For one, there’s a fantastic Warhammer community already in Texas, and we thought they could make great use of a hub for their hobby activity. For another, Grapevine is superbly connected to the rest of Texas – particularly Austin, Dallas and Fort Worth – and indeed, most importantly, to the rest of North America, thanks to the Dallas Fort Worth International Airport. Chances are, wherever you are in the United States, you’ll only be a short hop away.
Next up, we need an exceptional manager to run the venue – and the hunt begins today! If you think you’ve got what it takes to run the greatest Warhammer venue in all of North America, then check out the ad and drop us an application.
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Of course it's Texas, is there really any other choice?
That's about a 30 min drive depending on traffic, so I can get behind it!
Why, I could pop across, visit the Cafe, shoot JR, all in time to wake up in the shower and find the whole adventure was a dream!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I’m now particularly intrigued to see what it looks like.
I mean, Warhammer World is a decent enough place to visit. But this is of course intriguingly monickered ‘cafe’.
That it’ll have gaming facilities of some kind seems a given. But will it be a hall capable of holding Tournament finals in? Or are they ceding that to the ‘private sector’, given the sheer scale of things like the Las Vegas Open?
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