Imperial Knights Codex / New Knight models / IK: Renegade game returns - June 2018 - see 1st post

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**gendoikari87**

Cmon gw I want more armiger info!

**changemod**

gendoikari87 wrote:
Cmon gw I want more armiger info!

Depressingly, we get this instead:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/31/imperial-knights-building-your-champion/

**Daedalus81**

changemod wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
Cmon gw I want more armiger info!

Depressingly, we get this instead:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/31/imperial-knights-building-your-champion/

Depressingly?

Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

**changemod**

Basic units are the foundation, I can worry about the glittery decorations on top later.

**casvalremdeikun**

Now. If there is a relic that gives your Knight a better save, hello invincible Knight!

**gendoikari87**

Daedalus81 wrote:
changemod wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
Cmon gw I want more armiger info!

Depressingly, we get this instead:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/31/imperial-knights-building-your-champion/

Depressingly?

Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

what’s hilarious is that 4++ is a warlord trait any of them can take (except armigers I’m assuming) and there’s that relic so you can go 3++,2++ (with rotate) or two 4++ knights with one getting a 3++ each turn

**Buckybits**

BrookM wrote:
Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Has anyone noticed a release date for Renegades? If I want it I need to budget appropriately.
It should be up for pre-order this weekend.

It is. My friend's store put up a pre-order thing Wednesday with discounts for reserving.

**Justyn**

Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

How are you planning on getting two warlord traits, much less on the same model.

**casvalremdeikun**

Justyn wrote:
Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

How are you planning on getting two warlord traits, much less on the same model.

Dominus class Knights already have a 4++ allegedly. There is allegedly also a relic that gives +1 to Invulnerable Saves. So it can be done.

**Justyn**

Sounds more like wishlisting to me. I'd take a large scoop of salt with that.

**gendoikari87**

Justyn wrote:
Sounds more like wishlisting to me. I'd take a large scoop of salt with that.

nope, the relic is called sanctuary. It’s from the old knights codex

**Platuan4th**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Justyn wrote:
Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

How are you planning on getting two warlord traits, much less on the same model.
Dominus class Knights already have a 4++ allegedly. There is allegedly also a relic that gives +1 to Invulnerable Saves. So it can be done.

Pretty sure this article puts that rumor to rest. They specifically mention putting Ion Bulwark on a Valiant, which would be useless if a Valiant already has a 4++.

**Stus67**

The last paragraph in that post makes it sound like multiple freeblades can be warlords, but I think they just worded it weird and meant any one freeblade can be a warlord.

**ph34r**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Justyn wrote:
Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

How are you planning on getting two warlord traits, much less on the same model.
Dominus class Knights already have a 4++ allegedly. There is allegedly also a relic that gives +1 to Invulnerable Saves. So it can be done.

These guys also have 4++:, by default

**aracersss**

so if common knights are Questoris class & heavy knights are Dominus class, what class are armiger?

**casvalremdeikun**

Platuan4th wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Justyn wrote:
Adamantium Knight and a 4++...holy shiiiiiiiiiii...

How are you planning on getting two warlord traits, much less on the same model.
Dominus class Knights already have a 4++ allegedly. There is allegedly also a relic that gives +1 to Invulnerable Saves. So it can be done.

Pretty sure this article puts that rumor to rest. They specifically mention putting Ion Bulwark on a Valiant, which would be useless if a Valiant already has a 4++.

On one hand, you are probably right. On the other hand, it is GW...

**BrookM**

Great preview, really looking forward to the full Freeblade rules.

**Cephalobeard**

Agreed on looking forward to Freeblade rules. Ever since it was mentioned I've grown to be in love with the Lancer idea.

Curious what additional information we're going to get in regards to Stratagem/Household rules.

**gendoikari87**

Utilizing rotate ion shields for a 3++ at bs 4 you need 63 lascannon shots to down a knight

**LunarSol**

I cannot fathom the Freeblade being worth it, but there's some silly fun to be had there I suppose.

**changemod**

LunarSol wrote:
I cannot fathom the Freeblade being worth it, but there's some silly fun to be had there I suppose.

People will minmax the crap out of freeblades the moment their full rules are leaked on Friday night. You’ll get people suggesting monobulld freeblades for different knight patterns within the hour.

**drazz**

aracersss wrote:
so if common knights are Questoris class & heavy knights are Dominus class, what class are armiger?

Armiger class.

Warglaive and Helverin are the sub-classes.

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changemod wrote:
LunarSol wrote:
I cannot fathom the Freeblade being worth it, but there's some silly fun to be had there I suppose.

People will minmax the crap out of freeblades the moment their full rules are leaked on Friday night. You’ll get people suggesting monobulld freeblades for different knight patterns within the hour.

Definitely.

A SuperHeavy detachment from a Household with a single Freeblade on the side. Yeah, I can see that.

**Justyn**

These guys also have 4++:, by default

The Warlord trait does not improve Invulnerable saves, it confers a 4++ vs shooting. Even if there is a Artifact that does improve Invulnerable saves it probably works the same way, conferring a 4++ rather than improving an existing save.

**GoatboyBeta**

FW should just nick some of the alternate weapon designs from the Freeblade game to use as relics.

**ph34r**

Justyn wrote:
These guys also have 4++:, by default

The Warlord trait does not improve Invulnerable saves, it confers a 4++ vs shooting. Even if there is a Artifact that does improve Invulnerable saves it probably works the same way, conferring a 4++ rather than improving an existing save.

That is good to keep in mind.

**Galas**

I'm totally gonna buy a normal Knight to go with my Armiger, make him a Freeblade and call the duo Don Quixote and Sancho.

**cuda1179**

If you can give Warlord Traits or Relics to an Armiger, that could be interesting. An Armiger that can only be wounded on a 4+ would be good for a fast-moving harassment unit. That and I think they'd get more mileage out of it than a larger knight.

**Justyn**

I wonder if you can have Freeblade Armigers. Having a bunch of crazy Freeblade Armigers running around with different abilities and drawbacks would be fun.

**BrookM**

IIRC the fluff blurb found in Forgebane mentions that Armigers will join their masters, even when they become Freeblades.

**LunarSol**

changemod wrote:
LunarSol wrote:
I cannot fathom the Freeblade being worth it, but there's some silly fun to be had there I suppose.

People will minmax the crap out of freeblades the moment their full rules are leaked on Friday night. You’ll get people suggesting monobulld freeblades for different knight patterns within the hour.

Two negatives for a positive seems way too debilitating to me. I guess it depends on how exactly the Ld roll works with multiple negatives, but both the must charge and BS 6+ seems really debilitating and if the others are similar seem far too likely to lose you a game.