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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That's my shiny new toys on the way!

I am fast nearing 40 and am very excited having got my notification email about my incoming Knights. The Renegade set is just too good a deal to pass up on.

Have we seen any reviews of the datasheet cards? I just wish these were available for all armies as a useful reference guide.

I just turned 38, and I’m still nearly weeing myself with excite!

I’ve always loved Knights, but having three different classes is really something else!

And I still can’t wait to see what Forgeworld offers for these kits! I’m dubious of my skills for assemble large resin kits (especially with ball joints...), so haven’t invested in the non-hybrid kits they offer. The Dominus chassis in particular makes me keen to see!

I have a feeling GW will have plans for the Armiger and Dominus classes so FW may be restricted in what they are allowed to do for them beyond cosmetic stuff(which would be most welcome). But hopefully they will be allowed to go wild with the Questoris frame.

Live-action trailer is badass.

I get why Armigers don't give up command points. That said, I don't understand why they didn't add more command points per detachment for Knights. 6 for a super heavy detachment instead of three would be better I think. That would start you with nine and you could add to it if you wanted with other detachments.

Also, I'm confused. I thought that the imperium keyword wasn't enough for a battle forged army any more as per the beta faq, so how are people getting more command points with guard added to Knights?

The army can be battle forged through any key word. A detachment must have the same key word except Imperium, Chaos or Eldar. So your entire army can be linked via Imperium but your detachments must have internal consistency without that key word.

Picked mine up already. After building 5 quest or is hulls, the domino's does take a while. But it does look good.

Just awaiting the Postie

Which is irritating, because I’ve got stuff to do!

Either/Or wrote:
Is the storm spear middle launcher still the go-to carapace weapon? Worth taking the AA autocannons?

I think Spear is still the go-to choice. Icarus is decent if you are expecting flying targets. Remember you can use the "Skyreaper Protocols" stratagem to gain rerolls vs flying targets if you need to. This is probably more useful that the situationally useful Icarus.

Ironstorm is handy if you want to bombard infantry that your opponent has hidden out of LOS like objective grabbers. It also works quite well with House Raven as you can reroll 1s including number of shots.

But overall, Stormspear would be my default choice.

I think GW made a tactical mistake with the revised Renegade box; they should have included the sacristan forgeshrine sprue. With how daft the rules are for it, it might be the only way they shift those things to anyone but completionists…

Also, I has my stuffs! Dark Sphere have really picked up their preorder game lately.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

gungo wrote:
even with 6 armigers and 3 knights and 12cp this is still not that conpetitive of a list. You are better off with a soup list that contains Guard which is not really hurt by the current restrictions. Furthermore the rule of 3 and point limits basically make this list completely inflexible. You can only field exactly 3 units of Warglaives consisting of 1 model and 3 units of helligers consisting of 1 model and one of your knights needs to be a gallant and no dominus class knights to even fit under 2k. That’s hardly removing any other list building option.

Rule of 3 doesn't stop it - points will.

Even then:

Knight
Helverin
Helverin

Knight
Warglaive
Warglaive

IG Battlaion

That would have been 14 CP instead of 8. There are a lot of REALLY powerful stratagems and i'm not sure they should have unfettered access like that.

yes this is a better list then a pure knight list as I said before. The fact is people will still create similar lists with the curent restriction and it’s still not all that great especially with 2 knights and a barebone battalion. The lance rule it’s basically pointless and trying to solve an issue that doesn’t exist. Also going from 8 to 14 is hardly unfethered access.

Got the Renegade box.

Now how to split that Warden sprue between my brother and I?!

And what'd be a good count-as for Chaos Armigers if I fsll for the stompy robots allure? FW superheavy dreads have so much dakka, Fiends are so daemonic.

Got me Darksphere order. But Wargames Armoury’s seems to remain in transit :(

My stuff ain't shipping 'til Tuesday.

Long weekend in Oz ya see.

One of each Dominus class, one box of Helverins, four Warglaives I've been saving from Forgebane, two copy's of Renegade and the Codex. My wallet hates me, but it should scratch the stompy death robot itch until Titanicus launches.

Worried for a bit there I couldn't pick up my stuff, the GW store employee being sick today, but they brought in someone else to keep the release rolling, so dodged a bullet there.

Quite chuffed with the massive pile of boxes, paints and whatnot.

But first, sit down and read the codex.

My order is shipping finally. Won't be here until next Friday.

For those still curious: A Castellan or Valiant cannot take duplicate arm weapons or triple carapace-mounted weaponry.

The fluff itself is brought more up to speed with current events and it's pretty clear that Andy Clark has had a hand in the writing if you're familiar with his novels.

 BrookM wrote:
For those still curious: A Castellan or Valiant cannot take duplicate arm weapons or triple carapace-mounted weaponry.

The fluff itself is brought more up to speed with current events and it's pretty clear that Andy Clark has had a hand in the writing if you're familiar with his novels.

That is a bit unfortunate, since I would like triple cannons on a Valiant to shore up it's long distance firing, but oh well. At least now I don't have to wait until the bits hit eBay.

Has anyone else's Renegade box arrived without the instructions for making the Galvanic Magnavent? I am not fussed as I plan on freestyling it anyway but just wondering if it was just a mispack or it just comes without instructions.

I caved and bought a Castellan as well, double missiles and a single cannon for me...that saves a whole 11 points.

Just checked my box, no instructions either, I think it was the same for the previous Renegade set, no instructions for the building either.

 BrookM wrote:
Just checked my box, no instructions either, I think it was the same for the previous Renegade set, no instructions for the building either.

My copy of the previous Renegade box had instructions for the buildings.

Damn it, that's two for two for me then. I had to build those buildings using the pictures on the box and the site.

R

Koatga wrote:
Codex [link]

You might want to take that down. Posting links to pirated rules attracts the winged monkeys from GW's legal team.

Did someone say pirates?

Please do NOT post these things here.

 BrookM wrote:
Damn it, that's two for two for me then. I had to build those buildings using the pictures on the box and the site.

Cheers for the confirmation BrookM, seems like an odd thing to skimp on but given the inherent value of the Renegade box I am not too fussed.

Have built my Castellan, am very impressed with the sprue design and layout. Just wish they could have snuck a few extra faceplates into the kit.

So far I've only built my shrine and a single Helverin, loving it so far.

Did a quick view of the codex, not a lot of new fluff as expected, though a pair of new Freeblades are shown off, including an Armiger with a kickass WWI German fighter inspired carapace paint job.

The tapestry of glory has some neat bits in there, I especially liked the "Here be Dragons" bit.

Also spotted a massive goof by the writers / editors: the sample armies shown (1x Questoris, 1x Dominus, 1x Armiger, and the big Terryn one) state that with the armies listed you get 6 and 9 CP's respectively, despite including Armiger(s).. derp!

Sound like the no-cp for Armigers may have been a relatively late change (after somebody realised that you could perhaps spam out rather more than anticipated if you only brought them)

 Binabik15 wrote:
Got the Renegade box.

Now how to split that Warden sprue between my brother and I?!

And what'd be a good count-as for Chaos Armigers if I fsll for the stompy robots allure? FW superheavy dreads have so much dakka, Fiends are so daemonic.

Does it come with updated Chaos rules?

That’s my Valiant and Helverins built.

Both very nice kits, and incredibly little wastage on the Valiant.