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 Irbis wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
In a perfect world Chaos would have its own unique Knight frames.

*cough*

Unique frame, not upgrade kit.

If they ever bring that one Slaanesh house over we'd have some.. interesting frames that's for sure.

Reckon we'll see more of the Knights no later than Warhammerfest.

Last year we got the 40k preview at Adepticon, and first glimpse at some of the Primaris stuff, such as the Dread, at Warhammerfest.

I think the new knight is going to be a bit bigger than the current one. In that pic with the Armigers it's further away than them, and a bit out of focus. The upward angle could hide it's true height.

To be honest I'm not sure, but it would be odd if it wasn't a fair bit bigger.

I spoke to the local GW manager today when I went to get some paints. He said the new Knight would be bigger than the existing one. How much bigger he couldn't answer.

All I can think when I look at this kit is how I can't wait for some Ork player to convert up a Looted Castellan!

The main body of this new knight is different - i'm looking at mine and the angles of the support structure at the bottom of the 'body' and the upper section of the 'waist' are at different angles and detailed differently from a standard knight.

Check out the rotation eccentricity opening on the side of the 'thigh' at the top of the leg - its different too..

The more you look the more you find.

Yeah at first glance its looks a lot like a Paladin frame with different armour plates. But compering it side by side(holding a current knight up to the screen) really shows of how different it is. The preview vid is kinda conflicting on the size as its not stood directly next to other models, its always in front or behind them. The closest is some of the sector mechanicus terrain, where it seems its "chin" is just about level with the top of a Ferratonic Furnace.

It's a completely new kit, different legs, different torso.

An Emperor's Children release would be a good time for a Slaaneshi Hell-Knight to show up, since Fulgrim and the Keeper of Secrets both lack Wings so will be relatively smaller models than say Magnus or Mortarian.

Size of the Castellan, it looks about the same height, but the torso is slightly wider to accomidate the melta mounts, and where the carapace slopes down to the sides into rounded shoulder pads mounted on a basic armature over the arms, there is a much larger shoulder assembly above the arm to provide a mount for the upper turrets, with the carapace extending out flat to the sides to accommodate them.

It also has a narrower stance, with the feet both appearing to be in about a half inch from the edges compared to the paladin, making the entire knight a tad higher, so the top of the carapace will be taller than the top of the carapace on the Paladin, but less than the top of the missile pod.

But, Fulgrim DOES have wings?????

 cuda1179 wrote:
But, Fulgrim DOES have wings?????

Huh. So he does. Guess the Morathi model makes a better stand in than I thought. But that's off topic.

On topic, if Armigers come with their own decal sheet, will the Castellan come with its own as well?

 BrookM wrote:
It's a completely new kit, different legs, different torso.

They have clearly said that the knights will be one kit, from which you can make any of the variants, so it isn't completely new. It looks comparable with the stormhawk interceptor box, in that you get more parts on top of the original kit, but can still only make one model. So it'll be the same legs (minus the armour) but with a different hip joint that reposes them. Same torso, apart from the rear pieces.

The new model does look great, although the existing knights are about to get a price increase.

But the legs are NOT the same, that can be seen from the pic - The piston bits on the back of the lower leg are different, and they are integral to the leg pieces on the original model.

The side torso chassis around the arm mount is different too, as is the chest armour plate and the upper arm.

 JamesY wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
It's a completely new kit, different legs, different torso.

They have clearly said that the knights will be one kit, from which you can make any of the variants, so it isn't completely new. It looks comparable with the stormhawk interceptor box, in that you get more parts on top of the original kit, but can still only make one model. So it'll be the same legs (minus the armour) but with a different hip joint that reposes them. Same torso, apart from the rear pieces.

The new model does look great, although the existing knights are about to get a price increase.

Who said the knights will be one kit, and where did they say that?

 ImAGeek wrote:

 JamesY wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
It's a completely new kit, different legs, different torso.

They have clearly said that the knights will be one kit, from which you can make any of the variants, so it isn't completely new. It looks comparable with the stormhawk interceptor box, in that you get more parts on top of the original kit, but can still only make one model. So it'll be the same legs (minus the armour) but with a different hip joint that reposes them. Same torso, apart from the rear pieces.

The new model does look great, although the existing knights are about to get a price increase.

Who said the knights will be one kit, and where did they say that?

They didn't say it anywhere. In fact, the announcement is very clear that the faction is no longer represented by a single kit.

Edited for stupidity

No, it says they’re moving away from being a force represented by one kit. As in, at the moment they are, but there’s more kits coming for them.

You are quite right, totally misread it! I take it all back!

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
The side torso chassis around the arm mount is different too, as is the chest armour plate and the upper arm.

 Slinky wrote:
But the legs are NOT the same, that can be seen from the pic - The piston bits on the back of the lower leg are different, and they are integral to the leg pieces on the original model.

 zedmeister wrote:
Too many guns! Looks like a flippin' Great Gargant festooned with that many guns.

Lootin' time!

T

Will be interesting to see the knight variants next to each other IRL.

Not looking forward to seeing them on the other side of the battlefield though..

Given how much it reminds me of the Warlord titan, I wonder if they made this by adapting/modifying the plastic Warlord titan they're producing for Adeptus Titanicus?

There seems to be minor differences in the leg-design between the variants.

Yes indeed, I also thought it's just an upgraded torso/weapon kit, but closer inspection as has been mentioned, reveals that every single part is different. Most notably, the new knight is stepping forward with the right leg. All the greebles and metallic parts/vcables are also different.

Even the "toes" are different. In fact, I can't see a single component they share.

I'm hoping this means there's a noticeable size difference.

Yeah, everything looks the same at first glance but when you look closer, it's definitely all new.

True! Interesting!

Do we know anything about size? Will the new knight be larger?


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Dominus pattern actually, so none of that annoying unfunny gak please.

Seeing that it's a 100% new kit makes it even more "meh' that they didn't step out and do a completely alternate line of Knights with a new kit.