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Elbows wrote: Seeing that it's a 100% new kit makes it even more "meh' that they didn't step out and do a completely alternate line of Knights with a new kit.
I actually like that it is so similar- It looks like it actually came from the same STC with different inputs. The Paladin is a "General Purpose" walker with added armor plating, while this looks like you requested specifically "Defense/combat" walker. The STC takes the same design, and bulks it up a bit, gives it more firepower, but otherwise runs nearly the same design to allow for minimal differences in tooling and more shared parts for repair/construction.
I don't hate it, I just can't make myself like it. I'd have preferred the two arm weapons were substantially larger and they didn't bother with the beercanhat-canons.
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Yodhrin wrote: I don't hate it, I just can't make myself like it. I'd have preferred the two arm weapons were substantially larger and they didn't bother with the beercanhat-canons.
When I first saw it, I thought it was much larger and a titan, now that I know it's aproximately the same height as the current knight, it just seems like a throw everything at the wall and see what sticks kinda load out. The shoulder turrets are so so, the one's beside the head just seem silly.
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The fact Insaniaks picture looked "normal" speaks volumes. I'd rather get a Porphyrion.
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I will admit though, some of my love for the new Knight might be because I'm a massive Battletech fan. And giantthingsthatarejustcoveredinguns are just my thing.
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Hive City Dweller wrote: Yes indeed, I also thought it's just an upgraded torso/weapon kit, but closer inspection as has been mentioned, reveals that every single part is different. Most notably, the new knight is stepping forward with the right leg. All the greebles and metallic parts/vcables are also different.
Even the "toes" are different. In fact, I can't see a single component they share.
I'm hoping this means there's a noticeable size difference.
OTOH if they are about same size it could allow using legs between getting finally some variation with poses for paladin chassis. Take 2 kits, swap legs, have paladin/whatever in bit different pose than before. Having multiple knights with same weapons and same pose gets real old.
The only Heresy I see with that picture are the techmarines on the shoulders . Should be servitors .
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Eldarain wrote: The fact Insaniaks picture looked "normal" speaks volumes. I'd rather get a Porphyrion.
And this is kinda what I was on about. If you're going to do a another "big" and possibly "mega" knight, there are nice attractive ways to do it. Or...you can do what GW did. Tweak an existing kit and add a pile of guns. The new GW knight just looks lazy to me. It's like an evolution of an old performanc car, where it's been out for 6-7 years and a little long on the tooth, so they add some horsepower and a body kit, trying to keep it relevant.
Eldarain wrote: The fact Insaniaks picture looked "normal" speaks volumes. I'd rather get a Porphyrion.
And this is kinda what I was on about. If you're going to do a another "big" and possibly "mega" knight, there are nice attractive ways to do it. Or...you can do what GW did. Tweak an existing kit and add a pile of guns. The new GW knight just looks lazy to me. It's like an evolution of an old performanc car, where it's been out for 6-7 years and a little long on the tooth, so they add some horsepower and a body kit, trying to keep it relevant.
Whilst I really like the kit (barring the shoulder guns), I do agree with you to some extent.
What I think may really be putting me off is actually the Missiles. They’re the parts which really look like a NooBs usual ‘ALL THE GUNS’ enthusiasm. If they were instead mounted in a Launcher? Who knows. But as they are, looks a bit off.
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Eldarain wrote: The fact Insaniaks picture looked "normal" speaks volumes. I'd rather get a Porphyrion.
The new GW knight just looks lazy to me. It's like an evolution of an old performanc car, where it's been out for 6-7 years and a little long on the tooth, so they add some horsepower and a body kit, trying to keep it relevant.
I don't really get the complaining that it's got too many guns, something the size of a Knight should try to utilise as much firepower as it can manage as a lot of resources goes and bulk goes into simply all the workings to make it a functioning "mech" in the first place. I mean, it doesn't look anymore over gunned than the likes of a Baneblade, or Wraithknight that packs twin arm cannons and shoulder mounted heavy weapons.. or a Stormsurge etc etc. Why all the criticism on this?
The original IK kit was one of (the only?) GW "big" kits that I actually got excited about. All the primarchs etc have just left me cold, with extraneous swirly gak™ and just a pretty consistent list of design choices that I haven't found appealing.
This is just as appealing to me as the original, and I'm sure I'll get one to keep in the cupboard of shame alongside the other Knights I haven't finished (ok, started.*)
Love it, love everything about it.
*I have finished one, honest!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Although I do think that, given we're likely to have choices, outfitting the promo model with the head that makes it look so much like an Epic Warlord wasn't a great idea.
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I did a pretty poor overlay of the old knight over the variant using the base as reference. It seems the new knight is mainly larger due to its shoulders, but it does certainly have some more height too (if my image is in anyway accurate...)
I included a transparent version too so you can kind of see the difference in stance and head size.
Stormonu wrote: I want to see a Chaos Knight - with bat wings!
Failing that, a Knight with an assault jump pack. That ought to make the Tau players flip out...
Forgeworld 3 or 4 years ago said they intended to do a jumpack for a contemptor, which would be awesome but this idea would be even better. If it could land and do massive amounts of splash damage!
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Ctan_Overlord wrote: I did a pretty poor overlay of the old knight over the variant using the base as reference. It seems the new knight is mainly larger due to its shoulders, but it does certainly have some more height too (if my image is in anyway accurate...)
I included an opaque version too so you can kind of see the difference in stance and head size.
Just a point of order... "opaque" means "not transparent" :-)
Ctan_Overlord wrote: I did a pretty poor overlay of the old knight over the variant using the base as reference. It seems the new knight is mainly larger due to its shoulders, but it does certainly have some more height too (if my image is in anyway accurate...)
I included an opaque version too so you can kind of see the difference in stance and head size.
Well seems legs should size wise be compatible for some leg swapping. Not big enough that it would be shootable(or shooting) from behind normal knight for us if it ever gets 30k rules.
Stormonu wrote: I want to see a Chaos Knight - with bat wings!
Failing that, a Knight with an assault jump pack. That ought to make the Tau players flip out...
Forgeworld 3 or 4 years ago said they intended to do a jumpack for a contemptor, which would be awesome but this idea would be even better. If it could land and do massive amounts of splash damage!
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. Should be servitors 
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