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Pretty excited for those Knight rumors. I've always been on the edge of getting an Imperial Knight because of how many points they take up, but I think the Armigers are super cute and can be a great ally in lots of lists!

God, if you give me Russ costed Armigers I'm going to buy so many Armigers.

Gorkamorka could just be a battle box for orks like forgebane, rather than the old game. And my wallet would implode if both knights and titans are released in august.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gorkamorka could just be a battle box for orks like forgebane, rather than the old game. And my wallet would implode if both knights and titans are released in august.

That would be interesting if that was the case. Hopefully with a new buggy kit in the same way we got a new Knight kit in Forgebane.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gorkamorka could just be a battle box for orks like forgebane, rather than the old game. And my wallet would implode if both knights and titans are released in august.

Then why give it the name?

At best it's a full campaign system with a box featuring the new buggie/trakk, and a prelude to a larger Ork release.

At worst it's a one-and-done Shadow War-style release that just reprints the old base Gorkamorka rules and leaves it at that.

Just part of their commitment to rerelease of specialist games. If anything I think it will be a variant of Necromunda rules. But back on track, I still think it's odd they didn't reveal more this last weekend. Might have to get some Van Saar just to build some knight pilots

Bringing relevant rumors:

Terrain is like tech priest with the ability to re-load, heal, and max out weapon shots for a Knight. Amrigers get Dakka with 2 amped up guns, and character gets a laser weapon like a Chimera, but you know, bigger.

Oh and if you like wolves, you will love the new knight character.

Codex fixes two problems with the Armiger, high points and weak to hordes in combat. Both new Armigers will cost less that a leman russ, and chainreaper will gain a multi-attack ability. Helverin gets dakka that taken over several models leaves any other walker’s firepower in the dust.

A couple of thoughts:

--Reload? I'm fairly certain that currently no knight weapons need to reload...

--Maxed shots sound promising on the battle cannon.

--(less-than) Leman Russ-priced Armigers; that's a price drop of over 100 points, right?

I have been thinking, a full Knight Army is pretty much 4 Knights (with two Armigers the same price as 1 Knight). And, that's not a very viable army. If the army could go 5 Knights (with three Armigers costing the price of 1 Knight), suddenly it looks a lot different, and potentially usable.

Well if armigers are cut in price, and Knights are cut proportionately where after all cuts 1 standard knight is still equal to 2 armigers... then we're at a point where we're back to being able to take a reasonable number of Knights.

Alas...

Re: Reload - the Castellan has a pair of missiles on its carapace, these may be one-use only.

The biggest question is.. when does the codex come out?

We don't know as of yet.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Alas...

Lol, wut?

What's the point of playing with Space Marine-sized Knights and Dreadnought sized Titans? Might as well just play with Space Marines and Dreadnoughts.

Knights are fun if you have some regular Guardsman or Marines on the table for scale comparison. Otherwise, it's just an anatomically less interesting 28-30mm miniature with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Alas...

Lol, wut?

What's the point of playing with Space Marine-sized Knights and Dreadnought sized Titans? Might as well just play with Space Marines and Dreadnoughts.

Knights are fun if you have some regular Guardsman or Marines on the table for scale comparison. Otherwise, it's just an anatomically less interesting 28-30mm miniature with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Disagree. Especially if it's an entirely different game with a different scale. Cause it's supposed to feel different.

That's saying "Why would I play a super-battle robot game, when I could play with toy soldiers instead, just cause they're the same size?"

 Carnikang wrote:

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Alas...

Lol, wut?

What's the point of playing with Space Marine-sized Knights and Dreadnought sized Titans? Might as well just play with Space Marines and Dreadnoughts.

Knights are fun if you have some regular Guardsman or Marines on the table for scale comparison. Otherwise, it's just an anatomically less interesting 28-30mm miniature with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Disagree. Especially if it's an entirely different game with a different scale. Cause it's supposed to feel different.

That's saying "Why would I play a super-battle robot game, when I could play with toy soldiers instead, just cause they're the same size?"

Dunno. If the mechanics turn out to be a lot better than some other GW games, sure, why not.

But the feeling for the scale is lost precisely because you have loads and loads of 'big stompy' guys killing their uniqueness and the game lacks "human scale" for comparison and PoV/immersion (not to mention completely missing all the tongue-in-cheek humour, grim-darkness and caricature that makes 40K 40K, with a game seemingly ported from the worst FW-stick-up-their-butt-let's-try-to-make-40K-serious-crazy-days)

Thus the meme above seems spectacularly il-chosen, given how boring Adeptus Titanicus is shaping up to be. Thus far, it looks like any random mid-tier Kickstarter-thingy with some sci-fi robots/soldiers/something.

This thread is not about AT

Edit- Warhams is right, not really a place for it. My bad.

 drazz wrote:
Terrain is like tech priest with the ability to re-load, heal, and max out weapon shots for a Knight. Amrigers get Dakka with 2 amped up guns, and character gets a laser weapon like a Chimera, but you know, bigger.

CS Goto Knight incoming?

 drazz wrote:
Codex fixes two problems with the Armiger, high points and weak to hordes in combat. Both new Armigers will cost less that a leman russ, and chainreaper will gain a multi-attack ability. Helverin gets dakka that taken over several models leaves any other walker’s firepower in the dust.

I hope they don't just fix the Armiger's high points. Knights aren't what they used to and generally too expensive in 8th ed.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Alas...

Lol, wut?

What's the point of playing with Space Marine-sized Knights and Dreadnought sized Titans? Might as well just play with Space Marines and Dreadnoughts.

Knights are fun if you have some regular Guardsman or Marines on the table for scale comparison. Otherwise, it's just an anatomically less interesting 28-30mm miniature with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Basically 40k is a horrible mess, even with the new edition so starting afresh with EVEN BIGGER (or smaller as the case may be) robots trumps the Knights Codex for me.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Basically 40k is a horrible mess, even with the new edition so starting afresh with EVEN BIGGER (or smaller as the case may be) robots trumps the Knights Codex for me.

That is fine. There‘s an audience for everything, I suppose. Just replace the word „gamers“ with „me“ or „Kid Koyoto“ next time you try to meme

Especially if its the odex Imperial Knights discussion, not the AT discussion. I have 0 interest in AT, but I dont go over there to hate among the people who look forward to that release.

This is what I see when I click that spikeybits link:



And I can't click past it. So... can anyone share the rumour in a non-eye-bleeding format?

 Mymearan wrote:
This is what I see when I click that spikeybits link:

Spoiler:

And I can't click past it. So... can anyone share the rumour in a non-eye-bleeding format?

There's a "no thanks" link hidden in the popup just above (and of the same colour) as the rim of the base of the mini. Had a hard time finding it, too.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Basically 40k is a horrible mess, even with the new edition so starting afresh with EVEN BIGGER (or smaller as the case may be) robots trumps the Knights Codex for me.

That is fine. There‘s an audience for everything, I suppose. Just replace the word „gamers“ with „me“ or „Kid Koyoto“ next time you try to meme

Especially if its the odex Imperial Knights discussion, not the AT discussion. I have 0 interest in AT, but I dont go over there to hate among the people who look forward to that release.

I think so long as there's more than one distracted gamer out there it's accurate

If I were GW I'd worry that all these releases are cannibalizing themselves, I thought I'd get into Knights but now not. Thought I'd do Shadow War but now there's N17 and Kill Team. I don't know who has time. Of course in so doing they're convincing me not to check out other companies so there's that.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


I think so long as there's more than one distracted gamer out there it's accurate

If I were GW I'd worry that all these releases are cannibalizing themselves, I thought I'd get into Knights but now not. Thought I'd do Shadow War but now there's N17 and Kill Team. I don't know who has time. Of course in so doing they're convincing me not to check out other companies so there's that.

But it‘s not. Prior to your post, people were discussing changes to Armigers, reliability of rumours, characters in the Codex.

People weren‘t even distracted by actually interesting alternative releases like AoS 2. Ed., Blood Bowl Dark Elves or new 40k-themed coffee mugs, much less the AT dud.

From spikybits too:

Update: Sources tell us to expect Knights by the second week of June 2018

So maybe preorders 9?

AoS2.0 its in june too, and and I think remember that 16 is a red date.

So 3 weeks available. ,Maybe 2 for knights and 1 for kill team?

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


I think so long as there's more than one distracted gamer out there it's accurate

If I were GW I'd worry that all these releases are cannibalizing themselves, I thought I'd get into Knights but now not. Thought I'd do Shadow War but now there's N17 and Kill Team. I don't know who has time. Of course in so doing they're convincing me not to check out other companies so there's that.

But it‘s not. Prior to your post, people were discussing changes to Armigers, reliability of rumours, characters in the Codex.

People weren‘t even distracted by actually interesting alternative releases like AoS 2. Ed., Blood Bowl Dark Elves or new 40k-themed coffee mugs, much less the AT dud.

"The AT dud" lol, now who's projecting their personal opinion onto everyone else. Aye pal, so much of a "dud" that they've spent well over a year completely reworking their initial plan to just bash out some rules and a few resin Titans into a full plastic release

 BrookM wrote:
Re: Reload - the Castellan has a pair of missiles on its carapace, these may be one-use only.

Could also be something like the double shooting rule that Leman Russes get, just tied to the scenery piece.

Calling Adeptus Titanicus a dud?

Them's such fightin' words, you might as well have spilled wor lass, and called wor pint a puff!

It's not even released, and I can feel the collective froth for it from here.

And yes, I'm still getting more Knights for 40k.

BACK ON TOPIC NOW PLEASE.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Re: Reload - the Castellan has a pair of missiles on its carapace, these may be one-use only.

Could also be something like the double shooting rule that Leman Russes get, just tied to the scenery piece.

This would be wonderful if it were to happen, it would make the now rather overpriced weapon options for regular Knights a bit more appealing.