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Not a bad bunch, I like the House Krast one, while limited, it is super-fluffy as they are specialised in taking down large foes.

But yeah, the Stratagems and Relics will also be a big influence on best picks. I hope we can expect at least one relic tied in with the Ion Shield.

I like how none of them stand so much out as being the best choice and their usability really depends on the loadouts of your Knights. Ofcourse the big question now is what their warlord traits and relics will be. But I am really glad that atleast the Housholds are all decent and not one can instantly be seen as the best.

Krast knight with a fist is a pretty scary prospect to another knight. Much better than a Chainsword.

Griffith seems a little pointless next to Mortan, why go for one more attack when you can double the number of hits you get? Other than the obvious reason that one of the warlord traits duplicates the Mortan bonus (or at least lets you reroll ones), so you can have both...

Knight Barons are going to be scary things, though I wonder how much of a trap it is risking that one VP for three buffs to a Knight at no points cost.
Interesting that none of the Mechanicus aligned ones have abilities that work well with Knight of the Cog. Surprised no one had a +1 Strength boost.

 Arlen wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Advance and shoot will be very, very good especially if the dual ranged Armiger option is a heavy weapon. Zipping them around 15-20inches and shooting on their cheaper platform will be quite formidable.

no just no. Dual ranged means no CC weapons. so why ever care about advancing?

Because mobility. having 1-6 extra inches could make the difference when trying to get them near an objective.

We also do not know the other house abilities. But if there is no ranged specific one, then I really think this is a great way to add a lot of mobility to a ranged knight.

The fact that this needs to be explained is astounding.

The thermal spear has a range of 36" and movement of 14" and it's already assault.....

"especially if the dual ranged option gives a heavy weapon"

Yes, you're correct. If the scenario mentioned was an entirely different one than I mentioned, that is.

I was quite specific.

Honestly, I'm disappointed with Cadmus' doctrine and hope our Warlord Trait and/or Relic is decent.

Cadmus is a bit weird, but seeing as their society is built around hunting down tribes of mutants on their homeworld with the one who kills the most becoming the High King for the next term, it would make sense from a fluffy point of view that they'd be excellent fodder bullies.

are the rumors of the valiant scratched by now?

Going by the spikeybits rumours the Valiant is a alternate build of the Castellan kit.

Hawkshroud house rule+an IG battalion with Vostroyan Firstborn regimental doctine=“Only the best of supplies and materials for the forces from <insert feudal planet>.”

 Apple Peel wrote:
Hawkshroud house rule+an IG battalion with Vostroyan Firstborn regimental doctine=“Only the best of supplies and materials for the forces from <insert feudal planet>.”

Watch everyone not bringing a truck-load of anti tank bawl their heretic eyes out

If you're not in a tournament setting and locked into a list..who WOULDN'T bring a truckload of anti-tank against a knight list?

By the same reckoning, who wouldn’t bring hordes of anti-infantry fire against Orks?

No knights next week https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/20/20th-may-pre-order-preview-inspire-your-warband/

https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/knights-playable-again-point-change-rumors.html

Sadly knights not Down that much but armigers down to ~ 160

How credible is this mass of rumours? It seems very vague as to whether knights are soon or months away.

Further, the AoS release could either be really long or really short depending on whether it’s just a core box and a rule book, or if it’s a big mass release of lots of independent boxes of the previewed stuff. Relevant, because it could effect the knight release window.

zamerion wrote:
No knights next week https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/20/20th-may-pre-order-preview-inspire-your-warband/

On the bright side its another week to save up for Knights?

changemod wrote:
How credible is this mass of rumours? It seems very vague as to whether knights are soon or months away.

Further, the AoS release could either be really long or really short depending on whether it’s just a core box and a rule book, or if it’s a big mass release of lots of independent boxes of the previewed stuff. Relevant, because it could effect the knight release window.

The trailers for AoS V2, Nighthaunts and new Stormcast all give June as a date. So if Knights don't arrive in the first few weeks of next month then we could be looking at July or even later

So the regular knight only gets a 25 point decrease? I certainly hope they upgraded the chassis for such a low decrease.

Such as the same Ion shield as the FW stuff.

I’m wondering how this new terrain piece is going to work, and whether or not it will be worth it. I don’t particularly relish the idea of taking a fortification detachment of any kind while also taking a battalion of IG for bodies. I need points in one direction or the other.

That's an Armiger price I'm comfortable with.c'mon, GW. Lemme run Six of them.

 Apple Peel wrote:
I’m wondering how this new terrain piece is going to work, and whether or not it will be worth it. I don’t particularly relish the idea of taking a fortification detachment of any kind while also taking a battalion of IG for bodies. I need points in one direction or the other.

Good. Anything that makes it so people can't just " I need a battalion of IG cause I dun want to play my army" is a good thing. Gets people off of my IG's back.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
That's an Armiger price I'm comfortable with.c'mon, GW. Lemme run Six of them.

You can take three in a unit, so that will be easy.

 Apple Peel wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
That's an Armiger price I'm comfortable with.c'mon, GW. Lemme run Six of them.

You can take three in a unit, so that will be easy.

He's referring to the points cost, as people felt the Armigers were overpriced.

For being a way to 'bring bodies' into the mix and giving a cheaper way to field a Superheavy Detachment with all 3 LOW slots filled? They were priced just right.

I approve all of these point changes. Hopefully the Rapid-Fire Battlecannon goes down too. That thing is just too much at 100 for it and a Heavy Stubber.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
That's an Armiger price I'm comfortable with.c'mon, GW. Lemme run Six of them.

You can take three in a unit, so that will be easy.

He's referring to the points cost, as people felt the Armigers were overpriced.

For being a way to 'bring bodies' into the mix and giving a cheaper way to field a Superheavy Detachment with all 3 LOW slots filled? They were priced just right.

I have six sets of Onager legs on deck for when the Codex comes out, for Armiger conversions. I'm excited for any positive news they get.

How would you plan on combining those two? Onager legs unless you convert them have a super-huge footprint, while the Armiger's base size is fairly small.

They fit fairly fine within the footprint of the base.

You can also make yourself a sort of super-sentinel using the Armiger legs and upper body of an onager.

For accurate measurements:

ARMIGER base is 100mm, an Onager is a 130mm base. With a small amount of converting they should fit without too much of an issue, or by simply giving the base some height, allowing them to "climb" up part of it, for effect. Should be fine.