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2019/02/20 23:20:33
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
You can do max Wraiths + Cloaktek with the reroll charges warlord if you want a brutal first turn charge, but if they're Nephrekh you probably don't even need it to land that charge if you use the advance+charge strategem.
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
2019/02/21 02:02:34
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
I think the call makes sense in the context of the FAQ they were basing it on, but I would imagine if a large event like LVO rules it that way you might run into the same issue if you plan on going to other events. Just be aware of the possibility
2019/02/21 02:04:46
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
I think the call makes sense in the context of the FAQ they were basing it on, but I would imagine if a large event like LVO rules it that way you might run into the same issue if you plan on going to other events. Just be aware of the possibility
I heard something similar with Imotekh using Phaeron's Will and only being allow 2 MWBDs based off of the wording of the stratagem.
2019/02/21 03:14:49
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
You do you for FLGS games. But if you play at any large ITC tournaments, the ITC ruling at LVO is probably going to stick. Further, the call was based on the ITC head judge asking the devs (you know, on account of them being playtesters for GW), so unless you're saying ITC has a reason to lie about it, it's a pretty clear window into GW's intent.
2019/02/21 04:02:59
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
I think the call makes sense in the context of the FAQ they were basing it on, but I would imagine if a large event like LVO rules it that way you might run into the same issue if you plan on going to other events. Just be aware of the possibility
I heard something similar with Imotekh using Phaeron's Will and only being allow 2 MWBDs based off of the wording of the stratagem.
That's actually totally lame, because my favorite thing I was doing was using 3×3 Heavy Destroyers with him and popping that strat to really get things going.
2019/02/21 04:33:23
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I hope some of my wacky ideas and thoughts have been useful I know that you all are teaching me alot! I am especially thankful for vict0988, ihatenids, iguy91, torblind, and draco765 as their comments really had an impact on the changes I made.
Spoiler:
1999 points Sautekh (10 command points)
Battalion Detachment
HQ Imotekh
2 MWBD to combo with the stratagem to make the immortals average 18 strength 5 hits. Also his staff may be able to trigger the first wound with 3 str 6 -3 shots.
Cryptek Aybssal Staff Chronometron Cloak
Aybssal Staff plus cloak should equal a wound on a unit even with the faq thanks draco for mentioning that. Also giving my Destroyers a 5++ in games in which I do not go firs seems like a good idea.
Lord Voidreaper Res Orb
He makes the lychguard unit hit hard re-rolling 1's to wound is very good considering your going to have the option to be str 7 with the stratagem. The unit on the charge will hit on 2+ because of MWBD and have str 7 re-rolling 1's that is alot of damage and the lord can use Entropic Strike to cause 3 wounds
Troops
5xImmortals Tesla
5xImmortals Tesla
5xImmortals Tesla
The ability to produce mass amount of str 5 hits through MWBD and Methodical Destruction is good on average that is 18 hits for the combo.
Elite
Nightbringer
Gaze of Death is a shooting attack that can trigger Methodical Destruction easily. In combat 2+ followed by a 2+ for d6 wounds is amazing well worth the points.
10xLychguard Sword & Shield
The squad is durable and hit hard with the Lord, the sole purpose of this unit is to control the middle of the field or the most important objective.
Fast Attack
5xDestroyers (1)
5xDestroyers (1)
Large squads of Destroyers and Extermination Protocols don't leave home without it, I understand Silent King! This unit can easily trigger Methodical Destruction because they don't need it due to Extermination Protcols.
Air Wing Detachment
Flyer
Doomscythe
Doomscythe
Doomscythe
I am in love with the Doomscythe! The Deathray is going to help with tough units like Imperial Knights. The last list had tesla carbines all over the place, this llist has tesla destructors all over the place! Instead of str 5 shots I have str 7 shots when combine with Methodical Destruction you trigger 2-3 (2.6) tesla shots thats 13 str 7 hits! You can spread the love around with 6 different targets if you want
Is this one better?
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I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
You do you for FLGS games. But if you play at any large ITC tournaments, the ITC ruling at LVO is probably going to stick. Further, the call was based on the ITC head judge asking the devs (you know, on account of them being playtesters for GW), so unless you're saying ITC has a reason to lie about it, it's a pretty clear window into GW's intent.
What I'm saying is the rule is very clear, so short of GW changing it in the next FAQ, which very well may happen, any ruling otherwise is a house rule in direct contradiction with the rule that is actually written.
2019/02/21 06:49:06
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
The Nightbringer can't activate MD as you need to wound using a Sautekh unit. C'tan have no Dynasty.
Crypteks can't have both a Close and Chromo. It's wargear, so one or the other.
Res orb seems like a good idea. But by the time it's most useful your unit of Lychguard will probably be dead. So, that's a wasted 35 points imo.
Instead of 2 Destroyers. Have you thought about adding Tomb Blades?
Lastly, since you have an air wing detachment of 3 Doomscythes. Have you found/read the Doomscythe stratagem that let's you do 3d3 Mortal wounds on a 4+ (3+ for units with 5+ models, 5+ for charcters)?
Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote: You can do max Wraiths + Cloaktek with the reroll charges warlord if you want a brutal first turn charge, but if they're Nephrekh you probably don't even need it to land that charge if you use the advance+charge strategem.
I wouldn't describe a charge from Wraith as brutal. Maybe if they're charging Primaris marines or bikes. Their damage output just isn't that good, it's their speed and durability which make them decent. The only brutal charges Necrons can do are from buffed up Lychguard or Flayed ones.
As others have said, the LVO ruling may be an indication of GWs intent, but it's just a house rule for now. Does anyone know how they ruled disembarking from a Mono/Nightscythe on turn 1?
2019/02/21 10:59:27
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
listylist88 wrote: Now that we've had a chance to test the units since CA can we further discuss the competitive viability of the Triarch Stalker?
I very recently acquired one in a job lot but the work required to repair it will be quite significant.
In my view it's points price as a standalone unit looks somewhat lacking even after the significant drop.
Targeting relay is decent ability though and quantum shielding is very welcome.
If you had access to every Necron unit in the codex would you include a Stalker in your 2000 points lists?
It's a strong companion to both battallions of Immortals and DDAs, basically a pocket Nihilakh Dynastic Code. It's one of our few sources of 36" range with the Heavy Gauss or a flamer profile with the Heat Ray. For 125 points I think it's a bit of a steal.
Because of it's buffing potential I find my opponent tends to treat it as a priority target which can be useful if you're trying to draw attention from other units.
Lastly, because of it's size [and lack of base] it can be useful for screening
2019/02/21 11:42:37
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I have yet to have a game where my Triarch Stalker survives past T4, because most of the people in my area know exactly what they do...
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2019/02/21 11:50:50
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
IHateNids wrote: I have yet to have a game where my Triarch Stalker survives past T4, because most of the people in my area know exactly what they do...
Also it's an easy thing to shoot at. Easier to bring down (if unsure, people shoot at the things that are easier to kill). It's physically big and shooty and does things for your army, if you have no more sophisticated plans then just shoot that thing. Killing something like that can'e be too wrong?
They may not be in position to take on your DDAs, which have more wounds, shoot at fulls trength anyway with the stratagem, and are likely out of range. They won't bother yet with your reanimationg -1-to-hit tomb blades, destroyers are already dead, this guy is perfect to shoot at.
2019/02/21 11:52:42
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
CKO wrote: I hope some of my wacky ideas and thoughts have been useful I know that you all are teaching me alot! I am especially thankful for vict0988, ihatenids, iguy91, torblind, and draco765 as their comments really had an impact on the changes I made.
You're welcome
My comments below in Red. not because issues, because contrast....
1999 points Sautekh (10 command points)
Spoiler:
Battalion Detachment
HQ Imotekh Can't fault this one, Imo is very good at the minute.
2 MWBD to combo with the stratagem to make the immortals average 18 strength 5 hits. Also his staff may be able to trigger the first wound with 3 str 6 -3 shots. Hopefully not, because his short range means he's already too far forward if you can do this. I find him better as a finisher than an initiator.
Cryptek Aybssal Staff Chronometron Cloak SOmebody beat me to this, but you can't take both :( I'd say Cloak & Staff, as that will be a very easy way to proc the stratagem (plus mortal wounds)
Aybssal Staff plus cloak should equal a wound on a unit even with the faq thanks draco for mentioning that. Also giving my Destroyers a 5++ in games in which I do not go firs seems like a good idea.
Lord Voidreaper Res Orb Not worth losing the command point for a second relic. Voidreaper isnt sufficiently better on something that isnt for dedicated CC. Normal Warscythe will do you fine, if not take a Hyperphase sword himself to keep him cheap. Might be worth switching him out for an Overlord with a Voidscythe (still not the relic version), because "only" hitting on a 3+ isn't terrible
He makes the lychguard unit hit hard re-rolling 1's to wound is very good considering your going to have the option to be str 7 with the stratagem. The unit on the charge will hit on 2+ because of MWBD and have str 7 re-rolling 1's that is alot of damage and the lord can use Entropic Strike to cause 3 wounds
Troops
5xImmortals Tesla
5xImmortals Tesla
5xImmortals Tesla
The ability to produce mass amount of str 5 hits through MWBD and Methodical Destruction is good on average that is 18 hits for the combo. Yep. Many pew pews
Elite
Nightbringer I have a soft spot for this guy, and he's pretty good. Antimatter Meteor is outstanding regardless of source, and them you can play about. I like Time's Arrow, but thats just me. Good choice, but again, no strat.
Gaze of Death is a shooting attack that can trigger Methodical Destruction easily. In combat 2+ followed by a 2+ for d6 wounds is amazing well worth the points.
10xLychguard Sword & Shield
The squad is durable and hit hard with the Lord, the sole purpose of this unit is to control the middle of the field or the most important objective. again, yep
Fast Attack
5xDestroyers (1)
5xDestroyers (1)
Large squads of Destroyers and Extermination Protocols don't leave home without it, I understand Silent King! This unit can easily trigger Methodical Destruction because they don't need it due to Extermination Protcols. Correct on both counts. a Cloaked Cryptek chaperoning two units of 5, marking things with the Staff to be lit up by the not-destroyers, it'll do some serious damage.
Air Wing Detachment
Flyer
Doomscythe
Doomscythe
Doomscythe
I am in love with the Doomscythe! The Deathray is going to help with tough units like Imperial Knights. The last list had tesla carbines all over the place, this list has tesla destructors all over the place! Instead of str 5 shots I have str 7 shots when combine with Methodical Destruction you trigger 2-3 (2.6) tesla shots thats 13 str 7 hits! You can spread the love around with 6 different targets if you want Doom Scythes are one of the best DPS units we have at the minute. if you abuse you stratagem, you have hideous output, and they can nuke a castle on their own if you get lucky. And, even without the strat, they're still holding our second hardest-hitting gun in the codex.
Is this one better?
Massively. This si fairly close to one of my own TAC bases of a list.
Might I suggest bulking one unit of destroyers to 6, as they're going to be lit up to hell anyway it might help them survive, and then if you wanted to be hideous, drop the now-4 Destroyers to take a Guass Stalker to sit with Imotekh & the Immortals (leaves enough spare points to upgrade the Lord to an Overlord as I suggested, and then *also* take a unit of scarabs to sit with your Cryptek and the Destroyers. You know that massive amount of bullets that can hit a Strategem-Marked target? imagine them re-rolling 1s....
Either cry laughing, cry for feelign bad, or laugh evilly, up to you
IHateNids wrote: I have yet to have a game where my Triarch Stalker survives past T4, because most of the people in my area know exactly what they do...
Also it's an easy thing to shoot at. Easier to bring down (if unsure, people shoot at the things that are easier to kill). It's physically big and shooty and does things for your army, if you have no more sophisticated plans then just shoot that thing. Killing something like that can'e be too wrong?
They may not be in position to take on your DDAs, which have more wounds, shoot at fulls trength anyway with the stratagem, and are likely out of range. They won't bother yet with your reanimationg -1-to-hit tomb blades, destroyers are already dead, this guy is perfect to shoot at.
Essentially this.
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2019/02/21 13:54:37
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
You do you for FLGS games. But if you play at any large ITC tournaments, the ITC ruling at LVO is probably going to stick. Further, the call was based on the ITC head judge asking the devs (you know, on account of them being playtesters for GW), so unless you're saying ITC has a reason to lie about it, it's a pretty clear window into GW's intent.
1. The FAQ says stratagems and persistent effects. Neither apply to MWBD or VoD. If their intent was to cover anything that is setup again on the table, or only lasts a single game turn, it would have been worded as such.
2. The Facebook post used to support the LVO call makes claims, but shows no actual support for actual contact with actual GW developers. The person in the facebook image going around even makes a statement that is incorrect, and that is the support for their "blanket" claim.
3. The LVO is over and that ruling was for that event. It does not automatically apply to any other event.
As others have said, the LVO ruling may be an indication of GWs intent, but it's just a house rule for now. Does anyone know how they ruled disembarking from a Mono/Nightscythe on turn 1?
I have a feeling they ruled it as the equivalent to full Transport Rules. i.e. first turn disembark. That would keep in line with getting rules wrong based on the assumption that was the intent of the original FAQ change.
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2019/02/21 14:33:04
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I feel like Lychguard of in a good place right now. As others have said, they do compete with Wraith to a certain extent, but need more support. Sheild Guard are slightly more durable than Wraith (with buffs), Scytheguard are far more killy than Wraith (with buffs). Wraith will do what they do more reliably, Lychguard will have a much bigger impact on the game IF they get to do what they do.
10 Scytheguard charging out of Deepstrike with MWBD and Disruption fields can be game winning.
One point on this, if you use the veil of darkness and MWBD they ruled at LVO that you lose the MWBD buffs. So its pretty much impossible to do this anymore. You can still give the character the reroll charges warlord trait, but thats investing a lot into it.
LVO was dead wrong on the call so luckily, they are not GW and you are perfectly legit in using MWBD with the VoD.
You do you for FLGS games. But if you play at any large ITC tournaments, the ITC ruling at LVO is probably going to stick. Further, the call was based on the ITC head judge asking the devs (you know, on account of them being playtesters for GW), so unless you're saying ITC has a reason to lie about it, it's a pretty clear window into GW's intent.
1. The FAQ says stratagems and persistent effects. Neither apply to MWBD or VoD. If their intent was to cover anything that is setup again on the table, or only lasts a single game turn, it would have been worded as such.
2. The Facebook post used to support the LVO call makes claims, but shows no actual support for actual contact with actual GW developers. The person in the facebook image going around even makes a statement that is incorrect, and that is the support for their "blanket" claim.
3. The LVO is over and that ruling was for that event. It does not automatically apply to any other event.
As others have said, the LVO ruling may be an indication of GWs intent, but it's just a house rule for now. Does anyone know how they ruled disembarking from a Mono/Nightscythe on turn 1?
I have a feeling they ruled it as the equivalent to full Transport Rules. i.e. first turn disembark.
That would keep in line with getting rules wrong based on the assumption that was the intent of the original FAQ change.
I'm not disagreeing that the FAQ as written does not apply to the VoD, but my point is simply that if you are planning to go to a big event you should be aware of the fact that they might not rule in your favor on it. I love using lychguard with VoD, but if I want to go to a big event I would consider using another option unless I have cleared it with the TO first. I would rather that than simply assume they will agree with me and then round 1 realize my list is seriously hampered.
2019/02/21 15:45:25
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
IHateNids wrote: I have yet to have a game where my Triarch Stalker survives past T4, because most of the people in my area know exactly what they do...
Also it's an easy thing to shoot at. Easier to bring down (if unsure, people shoot at the things that are easier to kill). It's physically big and shooty and does things for your army, if you have no more sophisticated plans then just shoot that thing. Killing something like that can'e be too wrong?
They may not be in position to take on your DDAs, which have more wounds, shoot at fulls trength anyway with the stratagem, and are likely out of range. They won't bother yet with your reanimationg -1-to-hit tomb blades, destroyers are already dead, this guy is perfect to shoot at.
People's opinions so far have it ranking somewhere between trash and okay.
I run Sautekh spearheads to get access to hyperlogical strategist so the stalker could fit quite nicely into that providing the re-roll 1s but some other things concern me. The lack of a dynasty, having to move it turn 1 and hit of 4's with it's already limited firepower, being unable to trigger MD, it's bulky size with no access to FLY to fall back, easy to bracket.
It's boiling down to whether or not I want to pay 125 points for targeting relay and a light meat shield, maybe, but maybe not.
2019/02/21 15:59:48
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
1. The FAQ says stratagems and persistent effects. Neither apply to MWBD or VoD. If their intent was to cover anything that is setup again on the table, or only lasts a single game turn, it would have been worded as such.
This. If MWBD is considered a persistent effect, i am curious to see what a non-persistent effect is.
You can argue that the "stratagem" part should cover any way of deep striking (Relic, Stratagem, Trait, else) as a RAI, but even then, MWBD is not a persistent effect.
I think that this FAQ was intended to rule the persistent buffs combined with thing with Tide of Traitors, Green Tide, etc ... Stratagems that repop a "new" unit to full strength, losing permanent buffs in the process as they are "new". But the poor wording has a lot of collateral damage.
2019/02/21 16:13:53
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Regardless of whether the ruling is valid or not, expect every single person at a competitive event to bring it up.
Rules lawyering is the name of the game here, and who can blame them? Knowing obscure rulings and judge-arguing can give huge advantages.
It's one of many reasons why I tend to not go to large events, but it's also something GW could fix themselves with more clear rules. It's honestly pathetic how badly written the codexes are at times.
2019/02/21 16:51:50
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Odrankt wrote: The Nightbringer can't activate MD as you need to wound using a Sautekh unit. C'tan have no Dynasty.
Crypteks can't have both a Close and Chromo. It's wargear, so one or the other.
I did not notice, I am glad you caught that.
Res orb seems like a good idea. But by the time it's most useful your unit of Lychguard will probably be dead. So, that's a wasted 35 points imo.
I think my lychguard unit will not die that easily with a 3++ and a 4+ reanimation protocol roll but, the orb was a last minute thing I added due to points left over.
Instead of 2 Destroyers. Have you thought about adding Tomb Blades?
Lastly, since you have an air wing detachment of 3 Doomscythes. Have you found/read the Doomscythe stratagem that let's you do 3d3 Mortal wounds on a 4+ (3+ for units with 5+ models, 5+ for charcters)?
Yes, I love tomb blades but they are competing against Destroyers. I don't need more tesla because of all the tesla destructors I have in this list I need more teeth and Destroyers with extermination protocol provides that.
I actually forgot about that stratagem! That can be useful I am not sure how good it is though?
After looking at my list again I will probably just take away the chronometron and the res orb out to increase the size of one immortal squad to 8.
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I'm not disagreeing that the FAQ as written does not apply to the VoD, but my point is simply that if you are planning to go to a big event you should be aware of the fact that they might not rule in your favor on it. I love using lychguard with VoD, but if I want to go to a big event I would consider using another option unless I have cleared it with the TO first. I would rather that than simply assume they will agree with me and then round 1 realize my list is seriously hampered.
One would hope that they follow actual GWFAQs. Not every person who goes to a major event has access to every single Facebook page that the judge may or may not be posting their interpretations of a rule clarification that is already clear.
But considering they do not even follow actual GW Missions (which ITC people claim they helped develop), anything is possible.
2019/02/21 19:34:47
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I actually forgot about that stratagem! That can be useful I am not sure how good it is though?
It ranges from meh to game winning. The main thing is to learn when to use it and when it's more advantageous to use the death rays or split up your Scythes. I've crippled an opponent on the first turn by nuking 600+points out of their army with a single use before, I've used it to snipe out characters that I otherwise couldn't get to, to pop units that were hidden out of LOS, to get around 2-3++ inv saves, and to help knock out units that were -2 or -3 to hit. I've also dropped it in a mob of targets and rolled almost nothing but 1s and 2s.
11,100 pts, 7,000 pts
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2019/02/21 20:12:41
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
One would hope that they follow actual GWFAQs. Not every person who goes to a major event has access to every single Facebook page that the judge may or may not be posting their interpretations of a rule clarification that is already clear.
But considering they do not even follow actual GW Missions (which ITC people claim they helped develop), anything is possible.
That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GWFAQs
2019/02/21 20:18:15
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
That is why I commented in the first place, I figured it was better to let people know if they don't check the Facebook pages/use Facebook. And it obviously is not clear given the way LVO ruled and the discussion that was had in the Facebook group. In their minds they ARE following the GWFAQs
Again, that is not my point. My point is that if you go to NOVA or another large event, don't simply assume they will agree with your interpretation because clearly people have a different opinion about this
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The Deathray is going to help with tough units like Imperial Knights. The last list had tesla carbines all over the place, this llist has tesla destructors all over the place! Instead of 
The Narkos Dynasty - 15k
Iron Hands - 12k 
The Shadewatch - 3k 
Cadmus Outriders - 4k 
Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k 
7,000 pts