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2020/07/28 02:47:02
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
so if im reading the reanimator right if there are multiple reanimators i can bump RP rolls from a 5+ to a 3+ if i had two target the same unit? Or am I missing something obvious that makes it so it doesn't stack?
It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case.
2020/07/28 05:51:13
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Yeah I’ve had the pain of building a Necron half of an Indomitus set and will be painting it all before I build the other half I got haha. I don’t think I can stand building all those warriors again.
2020/07/28 06:21:41
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Oberron wrote: so if im reading the reanimator right if there are multiple reanimators i can bump RP rolls from a 5+ to a 3+ if i had two target the same unit? Or am I missing something obvious that makes it so it doesn't stack?
hmm. For aura's there's flat out prevention in core rules. But this isn't aura.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2020/07/28 11:42:57
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Oberron wrote: so if im reading the reanimator right if there are multiple reanimators i can bump RP rolls from a 5+ to a 3+ if i had two target the same unit? Or am I missing something obvious that makes it so it doesn't stack?
hmm. For aura's there's flat out prevention in core rules. But this isn't aura.
I'm pretty sure the same ability can't stack twice. Even if they forgot to add that into the new rule book, it's almost certainly RAI. You can still get a 3+ reanimate with cryptek and reanimator (2+ with orb of eternity). I watched the Tabletop Titans Indomitus game and he had a single warrior left, brought back basically the whole squad (was in a building so he could fit them all by using higher). levels too.
Yeah, I'm painting this first lot before I build anymore, my poor hands need a break.
2020/07/28 12:10:35
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
I actually think Mephrit might end up being worth a second look. I think the addition of the Skorpehk line of models isn't going to make us all that much stronger in melee. I think melee is still going to be a trap for us.
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
2020/07/28 12:32:08
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
iGuy91 wrote: I actually think Mephrit might end up being worth a second look. I think the addition of the Skorpehk line of models isn't going to make us all that much stronger in melee. I think melee is still going to be a trap for us.
Yeah I agree, unless Novokh has some super buff we aren't awesome at melee.
I think that we actually have decent melee which people don't expect as when you think if necrons you think gauss etc so its good to take 1 unit of heavy hitting melee units. but we can never go toe to toe with a melee focused army
2020/07/28 12:48:04
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Oberron wrote: so if im reading the reanimator right if there are multiple reanimators i can bump RP rolls from a 5+ to a 3+ if i had two target the same unit? Or am I missing something obvious that makes it so it doesn't stack?
hmm. For aura's there's flat out prevention in core rules. But this isn't aura.
I'm pretty sure the same ability can't stack twice. Even if they forgot to add that into the new rule book, it's almost certainly RAI. You can still get a 3+ reanimate with cryptek and reanimator (2+ with orb of eternity). I watched the Tabletop Titans Indomitus game and he had a single warrior left, brought back basically the whole squad (was in a building so he could fit them all by using higher). levels too.
Yeah, I'm painting this first lot before I build anymore, my poor hands need a break.
If you can find rule please tell me. I'm not memorizing everything. I went through the one on online by GW and it only denied multiple aura of same name.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2020/07/28 15:23:41
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Any thoughts on running a pair of Cryptothralls with Szeras? It would certainly improve his survivability...or does it just make him even more of a target?
Oberron wrote: so if im reading the reanimator right if there are multiple reanimators i can bump RP rolls from a 5+ to a 3+ if i had two target the same unit? Or am I missing something obvious that makes it so it doesn't stack?
hmm. For aura's there's flat out prevention in core rules. But this isn't aura.
I'm pretty sure the same ability can't stack twice. Even if they forgot to add that into the new rule book, it's almost certainly RAI. You can still get a 3+ reanimate with cryptek and reanimator (2+ with orb of eternity). I watched the Tabletop Titans Indomitus game and he had a single warrior left, brought back basically the whole squad (was in a building so he could fit them all by using higher). levels too.
Yeah, I'm painting this first lot before I build anymore, my poor hands need a break.
If you can find rule please tell me. I'm not memorizing everything. I went through the one on online by GW and it only denied multiple aura of same name.
Well the rule is normally attached to the aura itself in the wording along the lines of " x benefit along as unit Y is near a model with <this aura>"
Look at the overlord's MWBD ability. It specifically says a unit can't be targeted more than once by it but no such line is on the reanimated. If this turns into a big deal ill post in ymdc but it was something I thought could be useful yo point out.
It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case.
2020/07/28 23:09:20
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Thoughts on running a triple Plasmancer list?
Make one warlord with a Lightening Felid and Thrall of the Silent King to range boost everything.
Trying to figure out what else to run alongside them, 6 mudrer buckets, Scarabs, and Wariths?
Run Novokh.
Or go totally different for a new style army to go with the big refresh?
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2020/07/28 23:26:20
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Blndmage wrote: Thoughts on running a triple Plasmancer list?
Make one warlord with a Lightening Felid and Thrall of the Silent King to range boost everything.
Trying to figure out what else to run alongside them, 6 mudrer buckets, Scarabs, and Wariths?
Run Novokh.
Or go totally different for a new style army to go with the big refresh?
Anything that can lock things up basically forever and then watch the plasmancers zap things while holding objectives and eat popcorn
It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case.
2020/07/28 23:33:10
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
IanVanCheese wrote: Given that the codex isn't out until October, I think it's a safe bet that the Doomstalker and Lokhust Destroyer are coming out before then. That's why they have points listed in the Indomitus section - they needed to put them somewhere.
Not necessarily, I had heard a rumor (forget where) that those units where planned for indomitus but were cut in order to make the price more appealing.
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Neknoh wrote: What guns do I put on my indomitus warriors?
I have 40 old school warriors already, so I am going for the gauss reapers. I also like the look of sautehk still. Being able to rapid fire the reapers at full range as well as gauss blasters on my tomb blades and immortals up to 18" is going to be nasty. It also makes the flayer arrays better now that they won't want to get very close since you cannot rely on fall back and shoot from fly and need the warden.
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So got to play first game of 9th. I had indominatus overlord, skorpek lord, 2x10 immortals, 10 reaper warriors, nightbringer, heat ray stalker, doomsday ark, 3 destroyers, 3 scarabs. 1500 pts.
Got penned to my quarter by fabius's creations with tons of jump packs(19"+charge talons etc), venom crawlers(I hate those buggers), maulerfiend, bunch of fast hard hitting solo models etc. Probably should have sent scarabs to center objective to get 3 vp's and maybe roadblock his big walker character.
Triarch stalker was damn awesome. Got to get more of these once SOMEBODY sells them for sensible prices. 100£+ for painted one is not feasible for me.
Infantry sucked but maybe misused them a bit. Though was hard to stay away range of those talons if I don't want to just hunker at my quarter. Other immortal unit and warriors got locked to venom crawler charges, kill 2-3 immortal, I fall back, reapers shoot, repeat. My infantry kept coming back, he kept regenerating, nobody made any progress except his thin their ranks tally counter.
Need fast tough objective holders. Nihilikh wraiths sounds like just the thing.
Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW I have 10 lychguard with shields. Thinking of adding warscythe unit as well(one of the few things I can buy...). How do they work in 9th ed in your opinion?
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2020/07/29 10:44:50
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Triarch stalker was damn awesome. Got to get more of these once SOMEBODY sells them for sensible prices. 100£+ for painted one is not feasible for me.
I don't know how practical this is for you, but a while back I had a go at converting a Triarch Stalker out of an Annihilation Barge and a lot of Tyranid bits:
Spoiler:
Partially I was messing around with the idea of a bio-mechanical army, and partially I just enjoy creating random crap like this. The pictures above are fairly old (painting was and still is WIP), and I've been trying since to merge the paint-schemes more so that there isn't such a contrast between the Tyranid and Necron bits. Hopefully you get the idea, though.
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2020/07/29 10:47:09
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
vipoid wrote: How are Triarch Praetorians looking in 9th?
Also, am I right in thinking that there's no cost or downside to just taking Particle Casters on every Wraith now?
I don't know how practical this is for you, but a while back I had a go at converting a Triarch Stalker out of an Annihilation Barge and a lot of Tyranid bits:
Don't have tyranid bits and seeing how bad at converting I am not sure I could pull it off...Any idea WHAT bits? Might come expensive seeing I would need to buy full tyranid kits for that...
As for wraiths yes currently no reason whatsoever to not take...but not expecting it to last that way through codex. Would at least not spend money on that atm.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2020/07/29 11:03:06
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
iGuy91 wrote: I actually think Mephrit might end up being worth a second look. I think the addition of the Skorpehk line of models isn't going to make us all that much stronger in melee. I think melee is still going to be a trap for us.
I think you're right...to a point. Mephrit and Suatekh both look pretty good in the new Codex, though we have no idea what the new protocol rules are. For melee, I think 9th is going to require some melee threats in most armies because you're going to need to remove enemies from objectives and threaten charges to lock things up/slow them down. I think Skorpekhs are pretty good for that as they're tough and dangerous to a wide range of tough enemies. I think you're right that you don't want to go overboard though. Necrons can't compete with the actual close combat armies out there but we can take a couple of surprisingly good units to help round out our army.
2020/07/29 11:51:14
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
tneva82 wrote: Triarch stalker was damn awesome. Got to get more of these once SOMEBODY sells them for sensible prices. 100£+ for painted one is not feasible for me.
I done told you all lol.
I'm waiting for the codex before I invest in more, they may get dunked back into oblivion but for now they're fantastic for their points.
As to melee being a trap, kinda, but no. Melee as a charge up the board and eat everything is a trap, but having significant melee threats to counter charge while you hold the midboard is going to be key I think. Considering that 3 Skorpekhs will ruin most peoples days and only cost 120pts, having a unit or two of them hiding behind cover near the mid-board is a pretty great deterant towards people coming near the rest of your stuff.
2020/07/29 19:52:33
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Tomb Blades [5 PL, 105pts] . Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
+ Heavy Support +
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
++ Total: [99 PL, 2,000pts] ++
Criticism welcome but like I said this is a mostly casual list made of of Indomitus.
Main thing I'd say is drop the plasmacytes. With 3 man units, the maths is less favourable. With a bigger squad, losing a Destroyer is less of a hit, and if you have a full 6-man squad then you still get more attacks than if you hadn't popped the plasmacyte even if one dies. It's just not worth the risk in three man units.
Other main thing, bring more scarabs. You have two sets, so 12 bases. You should be bringing 12 bases. They're pound for pound the best unit in our book. I'd scrap the tomb blades and plasmacytes, and spend all those points on scarabs. Looks fine otherwise.
2020/07/30 01:26:07
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Tomb Blades [5 PL, 105pts] . Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
+ Heavy Support +
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
++ Total: [99 PL, 2,000pts] ++
Criticism welcome but like I said this is a mostly casual list made of of Indomitus.
Main thing I'd say is drop the plasmacytes. With 3 man units, the maths is less favourable. With a bigger squad, losing a Destroyer is less of a hit, and if you have a full 6-man squad then you still get more attacks than if you hadn't popped the plasmacyte even if one dies. It's just not worth the risk in three man units.
Other main thing, bring more scarabs. You have two sets, so 12 bases. You should be bringing 12 bases. They're pound for pound the best unit in our book. I'd scrap the tomb blades and plasmacytes, and spend all those points on scarabs. Looks fine otherwise.
You don't have to use the plasmacytes ability though. It could just be 15 points to tank a lascannon or thunderhammer.
2020/07/30 01:39:56
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Tomb Blades [5 PL, 105pts] . Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope
. . Two Tesla Carbines
+ Heavy Support +
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 180pts]
++ Total: [99 PL, 2,000pts] ++
Criticism welcome but like I said this is a mostly casual list made of of Indomitus.
Main thing I'd say is drop the plasmacytes. With 3 man units, the maths is less favourable. With a bigger squad, losing a Destroyer is less of a hit, and if you have a full 6-man squad then you still get more attacks than if you hadn't popped the plasmacyte even if one dies. It's just not worth the risk in three man units.
Other main thing, bring more scarabs. You have two sets, so 12 bases. You should be bringing 12 bases. They're pound for pound the best unit in our book. I'd scrap the tomb blades and plasmacytes, and spend all those points on scarabs. Looks fine otherwise.
You don't have to use the plasmacytes ability though. It could just be 15 points to tank a lascannon or thunderhammer.
Yeah, exactly. Someone else also did the math somewhere that even if you lose a model, since you still gain the buff you are still around 90% combat effective.
I would never use the plasmacyte ability. Its insane to lose a model for a minor buff. Also makes the unit easier to kill, no more RP. I would only use it as an ablative wound.
2020/07/30 09:13:19
Subject: Re:Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Hey all, still trying to get my bearings for 9th and plan out future lists. Does this list seems somewhat viable at 2k? The idea would be to tale objectives with obsec wraiths and tomb blades supported by DDAs. Not sure on the best relic, warlord trait, or even best HQ choices for this list though
EDIT: There's also no chance I will get games in before October so I'm trying to base this roughly on the new codex rumours/spoilers, although I do realize that we don't know that much so lists may have to change upon release
p5freak wrote: Wraith dont have obsec. They will in october.
I should clarify, there's no chance I will be getting games in before the new codex drops so I'm trying to base my list plans roughly on that. Granted lists might have to change after it is released since we don't have all the details but I'm trying to iron out a rough outline of what to buy/hobby towards in the meantime. Edited original post to reflect that.
2020/07/30 10:36:57
Subject: Necrons NEW 8th ed. Codex tactica - [please post lists under spoilers]
Anyone noticed that lychguard qith szarekhan dynasty trait is perfect for protecting chars?
All MW for protecting chars can be ignored on 5+.
And if they fire at the lychguard they have and even better 4+ or 3+ with stratagem
Necrons
Imperial Knights
Orcs and Goblins
Tomb Kings
Wood Elves
High Elves 
4000 pts
12PL 
4000+
Thousand Sons 4000+
