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 Galas wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Arachnofiend wrote:
I feel like the Escher heads would look reaaaaally weird on Cadian bodies... It's a completely different aesthetic.

Um, not really:

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I stand corrected! That's a great piece of art.

Nothing in this picture feel 40k, she looks like a colonial marine from Aliens more than anything else

She is part of the Necromunda's Lucky 7th

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Not everything in the Imperium is gothic with skulls everywhere. Necromunda has a very defined aesthetic that match the one of this regiment.

New plastic Guardsmen like this please?

Thanks.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think the 20 or so SoB true believers are inevitably going to be the most disappointed with eventual rerelease of SoB.

Whilst that is inevitable, and has already been demonstrated within the first few pages of this thread, I really don't think GW is going to abandon the core aesthetic of the Sisters of Battle.



This is just what Sisters look like to everyone here, and to all the 40K players out there. Everything in that picture is intrinsic to what makes Sisters Sisters. To remove that in favour of a complete redesign would seem foolish to me.

That would make an excellent cover to the eventual Codex Sisters.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
That would make an excellent cover to the eventual Codex Sisters.

It already was in 6th Edition.

And since they've reused covers from several 6th/7th codex's for their 8th counterparts, I fully expect them to use that art again.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think the 20 or so SoB true believers are inevitably going to be the most disappointed with eventual rerelease of SoB.

Whilst that is inevitable, and has already been demonstrated within the first few pages of this thread, I really don't think GW is going to abandon the core aesthetic of the Sisters of Battle.



This is just what Sisters look like to everyone here, and to all the 40K players out there. Everything in that picture is intrinsic to what makes Sisters Sisters. To remove that in favour of a complete redesign would seem foolish to me.

I see core elements staying but just like Primaris are space marines but also not space marines I see SoB breaking from being just nuns with guns or "not space marines" space marines. Guns might look different or power armor could get changed a little. I just don't see them porting the current SoB into plastic with some better detailed faces.

I see it also happening in their rule designs such as having an 4+ save and be closer to Tempestus. I see some units not making it into 8th edition, like the chainsword ladies.

I think GW will eventually redesign all of it's factions in the way they have with AoS. I personally think Primaris we're just a small step, Death Guard another and I think SoB will be the first big one as they are changing their medium.

Just my opinion right now, of course.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised by a PA super sister in the new book.

But Primaris are a different thing in the fluff. Whilst I may personally believe that they are the first step to ditching the entire existing Marine line and starting over we have no proof of that beyond conspiracy theories and educated guesses.

So, for now at least, the Primaris are a different thing. A new thing. Something that goes alongside the existing Marines.

What you're theorising is the wholesale removal of all existing Sisters imagery and its replacement with something else. I cannot see them doing that, especially not after Celestine & Friends.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think the 20 or so SoB true believers are inevitably going to be the most disappointed with eventual rerelease of SoB.

Whilst that is inevitable, and has already been demonstrated within the first few pages of this thread, I really don't think GW is going to abandon the core aesthetic of the Sisters of Battle.



This is just what Sisters look like to everyone here, and to all the 40K players out there. Everything in that picture is intrinsic to what makes Sisters Sisters. To remove that in favour of a complete redesign would seem foolish to me.

I see core elements staying but just like Primaris are space marines but also not space marines I see SoB breaking from being just nuns with guns or "not space marines" space marines. Guns might look different or power armor could get changed a little. I just don't see them porting the current SoB into plastic with some better detailed faces.

I see it also happening in their rule designs such as having an 4+ save and be closer to Tempestus. I see some units not making it into 8th edition, like the chainsword ladies.

I think GW will eventually redesign all of it's factions in the way they have with AoS. I personally think Primaris we're just a small step, Death Guard another and I think SoB will be the first big one as they are changing their medium.

Just my opinion right now, of course.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised by a PA super sister in the new book.

Unfortunately your opinion is already very much in doubt due to the release of Celestine and the Geminae not too long ago. All of which were pretty much clones of the existing sister look. They're not going to invalidate recently released plastics by redoing the range they originated from with a significantly different look.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I see core elements staying but just like Primaris are space marines but also not space marines I see SoB breaking from being just nuns with guns or "not space marines" space marines. Guns might look different or power armor could get changed a little. I just don't see them porting the current SoB into plastic with some better detailed faces.

I see it also happening in their rule designs such as having an 4+ save and be closer to Tempestus. I see some units not making it into 8th edition, like the chainsword ladies.

I think GW will eventually redesign all of it's factions in the way they have with AoS. I personally think Primaris we're just a small step, Death Guard another and I think SoB will be the first big one as they are changing their medium.

Just my opinion right now, of course.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised by a PA super sister in the new book.

Well, no offense intended but I would be extremely surprised if they did any of this. And I don't feel like Death Guard is very different from what came before…

Well, apart from all being Primaris sized...

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I see core elements staying but just like Primaris are space marines but also not space marines I see SoB breaking from being just nuns with guns or "not space marines" space marines. Guns might look different or power armor could get changed a little. I just don't see them porting the current SoB into plastic with some better detailed faces.

I see it also happening in their rule designs such as having an 4+ save and be closer to Tempestus. I see some units not making it into 8th edition, like the chainsword ladies.

I think GW will eventually redesign all of it's factions in the way they have with AoS. I personally think Primaris we're just a small step, Death Guard another and I think SoB will be the first big one as they are changing their medium.

Just my opinion right now, of course.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised by a PA super sister in the new book.

Well, no offense intended but I would be extremely surprised if they did any of this. And I don't feel like Death Guard is very different from what came before…

The fact that Death Guard even exists as a separate codex and does so with larger models, new weapons, units and a stronger call back to HH era armor I would say is fairly different than a few throw away models in a single codex entry of another army.

SoB have had throwaway codexes up until now so I think it's likely they will be reevaluated coming into 8th edition. Primaris are still space marines and Death Guard are still plague marines but the redesign is still present. I just can not see them, given all their ability now, just turn the old SoB plastic and call it a day. 40k plot has advanced in 8th and I personally think if SoB are being brought into 8th that it will and should reflect that.

But I admit if people are vocal enough that SoB will probably refect the changes of Celestine and Co. that came with better technology and that SoB will mostly be a transformation into plastic more than anything.

The SoB asthetic will be what Celestine/Gem are. They will carry their classic style, but with better face/hair sculpts, slight change to paldrons, and modern (relative) bolters. I would not expect a huge change to models they put out 6 months ago...even if they're a year out. Celestine's armor is perfect in proportions.

-Seraphim will get the new packs,
-Retributors will get an overhaul to make them a bit more "heavy weapons" look.
-Celestians will likely have different helm option than the std spru
-Old excorcist will be killed off. May retain some of the grimdark organ theme, but I suspect it will be streamlined to be more like the current tanks
-Immoloator will get some basic updates, but still a rhino
-Repentias will be redone completely. I'm guessing more akin to sisters of silence in terms of stance/look, but with AoS DoK clothing style
-There *will* be a flier. GW loves fliers..I love fliers. It's going to happen.
-New HQ options will be needed. We have only 1 real named character, Ver doesn't count since she's no different than a canonness and was technically limited

 BrotherGecko wrote:
The fact that Death Guard even exists as a separate codex and does so with larger models, new weapons, units and a stronger call back to HH era armor I would say is fairly different than a few throw away models in a single codex entry of another army.

Yeah but it's basically the same design, just with more models, and better details thanks to technical advancement. It's the same as Celestine being made with better tech, but still using the same design, for Sisters of Battle. I expect something similar for Sisters, i.e. something in the direct continuity to what came before but with more models, and using the latest technology, maybe with a tiny bit of scale creep.
Which is entirely different from having Sisters with a 4+ save, losing specific units, being a wholly new army with a new look (like Primaris Marine), and being redesigned the way factions are being redesigned in Age of Sigmar.

Factions are being designed in AOS because they blew up the god darn freaking setting. [Insert furious unhappy nerd rage here.]

However, setting aside my massive discontent with certain of GW's desisions, the redesign is _required_ because those models now exist in an entirely different and almost entirely unrelated setting for an entirely different game and game system.

Mercifully [?] Warhammer 40k is the same setting, and in many ways the same system. The same level of redesign isn't needed.

 fox-light713 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I can't imagine GW abandoning the core imagery of the Sisters to appease the Tumblr/Twitter crowd.

With how loud some of "those who must not be named" people and groups can be, my fears is that GW tries to appease them by changing the SoB into something that they are not. It all starts with one very slight minor change and then just like chaos it infects and mutates from there and becomes a chaos spawn abomination.

If i'm not wrong if GW sticks to the classic aesthetic of the SoB that could realistically please the most people.



In general when 40k players think sisters of battle, that image right there is among the first things that they think of. If GW doesn't stray to far from that general aesthetic and add in some flavor and variety in the small details, bling and armor decoration that is seen in the SM, BA, and SW tactical kits. I will be satisfied and most likely it would probably satisfy the majority of players wanting plastic sisters of battle.

Just chiming in to say I love that picture.


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 BrotherGecko wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think the 20 or so SoB true believers are inevitably going to be the most disappointed with eventual rerelease of SoB.

Whilst that is inevitable, and has already been demonstrated within the first few pages of this thread, I really don't think GW is going to abandon the core aesthetic of the Sisters of Battle.



This is just what Sisters look like to everyone here, and to all the 40K players out there. Everything in that picture is intrinsic to what makes Sisters Sisters. To remove that in favour of a complete redesign would seem foolish to me.

I see core elements staying but just like Primaris are space marines but also not space marines I see SoB breaking from being just nuns with guns or "not space marines" space marines. Guns might look different or power armor could get changed a little. I just don't see them porting the current SoB into plastic with some better detailed faces.

I see it also happening in their rule designs such as having an 4+ save and be closer to Tempestus. I see some units not making it into 8th edition, like the chainsword ladies.

I think GW will eventually redesign all of it's factions in the way they have with AoS. I personally think Primaris we're just a small step, Death Guard another and I think SoB will be the first big one as they are changing their medium.

Just my opinion right now, of course.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised by a PA super sister in the new book.

If any of these things happen it would be a travesty.

Why would they want to make them closer to tempestus? That doesn't make any more sense than making them more like space marines does. And SoB only have like 6 units, we can't really afford to lose any.

Why wouldn't they continue 'Nuns with guns'? That aesthetic is a big part of why not only the line, but the models have survived this long.

Primaris and Deathguard look like space marines and deathguard, there's such a minor difference it's hard to tell an intercessor from a tactical even at arms length.

I gotta say, your suggestions here are pretty nonsensical. It's a half step short of something like 'I really think Orkz should be more svelt and have ornate, sleek armor in the future. The big brutish thing is so played out!' It's a level of silly that doesn't make much sense.

I’m sure the battle sisters will be as tall as the geminae if they were standing, and have a similar design.

These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

Good chance. What the price for 10 models now plus few pounds more for yearly inflation

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

Oh I had the same thoughts some time ago, that if they ever did do plastic SoB they would be the most expensive modern GW range. They will take advantage of the thirsty sob fans mark my words, 60-70 bucks for a 10 person battle sister squad at least.

 ncshooter426 wrote:
-Old excorcist will be killed off. May retain some of the grimdark organ theme, but I suspect it will be streamlined to be more like the current tanks
-Immoloator will get some basic updates, but still a rhino

What's wrong with the current Immolator kit? Surely all that needs is an updated design to the box, as I seem to recall the kit being pretty good.

Exorcist is a tricky one - I kinda like the pipe organ look, but I appreciate it is a little silly to some.

 Thargrim wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

Oh I had the same thoughts some time ago, that if they ever did do plastic SoB they would be the most expensive modern GW range. They will take advantage of the thirsty sob fans mark my words, 60-70 bucks for a 10 person battle sister squad at least.

So Canadian prices as normal, then? :p

 Thargrim wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

Oh I had the same thoughts some time ago, that if they ever did do plastic SoB they would be the most expensive modern GW range. They will take advantage of the thirsty sob fans mark my words, 60-70 bucks for a 10 person battle sister squad at least.

at that price there better be plenty of bling.

 Thargrim wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
These will be the most expensive plastic miniatures, mark my words.

Oh I had the same thoughts some time ago, that if they ever did do plastic SoB they would be the most expensive modern GW range. They will take advantage of the thirsty sob fans mark my words, 60-70 bucks for a 10 person battle sister squad at least.

If the 10 women SoB kit is any more than $50 a box people will grab torches and pitchforks. Especially how currently you can buy 2 marine boxes for the cost of 1 bss. The cost of the current metal sob is one of the main factors to why people don't my the models direct from GW. IRC the current marine box is...$40 and a BSS is $80

Sister of Silence is $80 for 10, so get your pitchforks ready.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Sister of Silence is $80 for 10, so get your pitchforks ready.

That Sisters of Silence box isn't meant to be the core of an army though. I'm not saying that price won't happen, but I think $50 is more likely.

 jake wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Sister of Silence is $80 for 10, so get your pitchforks ready.

That Sisters of Silence box isn't meant to be the core of an army though. I'm not saying that price won't happen, but I think $50 is more likely.

Actually it's the core of a FW army. Explains the price.

Whilst I'm sure it'll get something of a redesign, I hope they keep the overall craziness of the exorcists design, rather than moving towards something like the more pedestrain FW version


Which is nice enough, but doesn't quite hit the mark IMO.

I'd settle for the launchers being tweaked so they look a bit more for firing/facing -- something akin to the deimos pattern whilrwind.

Quite fond of the organ design myself, though is this mainly due to the excellent sculpt of the gunner's facial details, who looks simply amazing lost in the instrument she is playing.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I think the 20 or so SoB true believers are inevitably going to be the most disappointed with eventual rerelease of SoB. To me it sounds like SoB are going to get a ground up redesign if they are going to let us see the design process over the course of the year. That means to me that SoB will likely be designed to appeal to the largest group of consumers not those that have been holding on for the last 15 years.

So I would expect some new stuff out of this to include some new designs and I wouldn't expect the SoB to look like Celestine to be honest because Celestine is pre-primaris 40k and pre-8th edition. I don't expect updates to any faction in the coming years to resemble their old faction designs.

Thousand Sons came out well before Celestine, and those kits are all true scale like primaris marines. From at least that point, and likely before, GW was working toward 8th and knew exactly what they were doing. The whole triumvirate series and accompanying narrative/campaign was basically the lead-up to the fluffstification for primaris marines. Celestine is effectively an 8th edition model.

 Dysartes wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
-Old excorcist will be killed off. May retain some of the grimdark organ theme, but I suspect it will be streamlined to be more like the current tanks
-Immoloator will get some basic updates, but still a rhino

What's wrong with the current Immolator kit? Surely all that needs is an updated design to the box, as I seem to recall the kit being pretty good.

Exorcist is a tricky one - I kinda like the pipe organ look, but I appreciate it is a little silly to some.

They haven't had the clear plastic bit in production for some time, so they started casting in resin. That's fine for small batch stuff (immos are web only and often oos), but I doubt they'll keep that route if they are pushing an all-new/revamped army. Shiny sells