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ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
This is what we officially have from GW:
Yup, plastic Sisters of Battle are on their way. For reals.
Emperor willing, the Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas will be ready to take the fight to the renegade, the heretic and the unbeliever in 2019.
Now of course there is precious little chance of GW having a major model release for an army not already covered in a codex, possibly with a number of new kits that don't yet have rules at all, not also getting a shiny new codex to go with it. But, officially, we have no word of that.
I for one hope to see the sisters expanded and get new units- in particular:
Artillery. These can be crewed weapons like the rapier or heavier guns like crewed mortars with a gothic theme. A kind of rocket trebuchet would be cool, but the sisters crewing their own flame-based artillery and burning down the fortresses of the heretics fills an important holy crusader aesthetic.
HQ retinue expansion- a dark eldar style retinue or IG style command squad full of unique sisters- sisters hospitaller, dialogus etc- maybe someone trained to spot heresy or who had served with the inquisition and has forbidden insights, historian types who catalog the actions of the righteous and can call on specific examples or tactics.
Expanding Seraphim- either additional weapons options or new tactics/strategems/acts
Elites- Celestians with rosarius and combiweapons, pallisades?(shooty, not cc 2+4++) Imagine a unit of hardened veterans with the entire treasury of the ministorum emptied to buy their armour and gear- what would they have? Heavybolters with special ammunition, suspensors? Heavy flamers with blessed fuel?
Spotter sister for organ gun/artillery- similar to IG master of ordinnace/AoS engineer guy
Centerpiece altar/shrine/siege engine vehicle- monolith/landraider style, provides passive bonuses and active stuff like additional CP/acts of faith
I think everyone will agree that the focus should be on the actual Sisters units both model and rules wise. I just wish some Ministorum stuff is included as well, like it has been since their very first codex.
I'm just happy to get more models - my regular sister squads are tired of me taking their special weapons to form Dominions.
And I don't mind a mix of other Ministorum types in the army as well. I picture the SoB as a church army with the Sisters as the stars. Hopefully we'll at least get Frateris Militia again (or even Redemptionists - my 50+ robed religious nutcases haven't really had a job since the 2001 Chapter Approved army list stopped being legal).
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
Galas wrote: I would like for a female priest model, just like the penitent engine has male and female variant.
They may change the fluff in the next codex but the priesthood is currently exclusively male. Both the 2nd edition sister of battle codex (page 33) and the 6th edition Scoin codex said that the most faithful male students from the Schola Progenium join the priesthood while the most faithful females join the sisterhood.
I think if we get a new priest model it will be based on the artwork which appeared in the gathering storm book and imperial agent codex from 2017. He always stood out to me as GW tend to base their artwork on models yet they completely redesigned the priest in these two books.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
Galas wrote: I could link here some short comics of Flick the Thief about that same theme but they aren't appropriate for this forum.
Right, please don't. But rest assured I have seen some of them and it's not quite what I had in mind.
Although the Schola clearly isn't a good basis to discuss what belongs in a Sisters book, it does remind me of the "non-militant" Adepta Sororitas orders and I wonder if they could be represented on the table as a unit rather than as a individual characters.
I want all the sororitas options and as many Ministorum options as they see fit the give us. I also hope that they can balance the army in such a way that it’s playable with only Sisters if that’s what people want.
It’s fine if some people only want to collect Sisters. Personally I want to be able to make a full on crazy Ministorum army with Sisters, Arcos, priests, penitents, crusaders, the works.
The only issue I have with the people saying that they hope there are only Sisters and no Ministorum in the codex, is that it can sometimes come across as, “I hope you don’t get what you want”. I’m certain it’s never intended that way though.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: it can sometimes come across as, “I hope you don’t get what you want”
It's more like, this is such a potentially fragile thing that it's not clear if anyone will get what they want. This kind of goes back to why this "announcement" left me cold.
I think it would be neat if they did something really unique with the Penitent Engine kit. Specifically, have it build either two PEs with options or one larger centauroid walker with multiple “crew” and extra arms etc.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
SoB in plastic 2019 "emperor willing" and beta codex rules in chapter approved 2018
ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
SoB in plastic 2019 "emperor willing" and beta codex rules in chapter approved 2018
That's all we got. Everything in this topic is just speculation and wishlisting trying to milk those few notices into something meaningful. I can say that they did put a big emphasis in their trailer on 'Plastic Sisters of Battle'. Not 'plastic ministorum' or 'plastic ecclesiarchy'.
Beta rules in Chapter Approved also makes it sound like the release of the Codex might be much later in 2019, latter half at least. That would give people enough time to playtest the codex and give feedback for the final print. I doubt it would be a beta codex in December followed by the print release in January or even February. That stuff takes time to manufacture too.
However... that does make me think, if we have beta rules, how are we supposed to use them without models? Are we to use the models that we have? That would imply that the Sisters would be getting updates to existing models rather than anything new. Unless GW releases the models early in 2019 for us to use and then holds off on the Codex until it's complete...
I think "beta codex" could mean "we don't want to print a real codex but we said something about getting a book out for every army by the end of 2018," i.e., just an update for 8e rather than some kind of open playtest for the actual dex coming out sometime in 2019, Emperor willing.
Manchu wrote: I think "beta codex" could mean "we don't want to print a real codex but we said something about getting a book out for every army by the end of 2018," i.e., just an update for 8e rather than some kind of open playtest for the actual dex coming out sometime in 2019, Emperor willing.
Yeah, I could see them pulling this, and then not printing the codex or having the models ready till the very butt end of 2019.
ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
This is what we officially have from GW:
Yup, plastic Sisters of Battle are on their way. For reals.
Emperor willing, the Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas will be ready to take the fight to the renegade, the heretic and the unbeliever in 2019.
Now of course there is precious little chance of GW having a major model release for an army not already covered in a codex, possibly with a number of new kits that don't yet have rules at all, not also getting a shiny new codex to go with it. But, officially, we have no word of that.
I see people typing “Ministorium” and “Ministorum.”
Which is it? I go crazy over important stuff like this.
Ministorum.
This is actually not entirely true. While their official statement on warhammer community may have been sparse in the official studio preview at Adepticon they covered that the SoB
Will be receiving plastic kits.
That the development of those kits will be transparent i.e. they will be doing update posts as the design process comes along
That a beta version of the codex will be included in this year's chapter approved(obviously exluding new units).
Source: Was there.
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Manchu wrote: I think "beta codex" could mean "we don't want to print a real codex but we said something about getting a book out for every army by the end of 2018," i.e., just an update for 8e rather than some kind of open playtest for the actual dex coming out sometime in 2019, Emperor willing.
The impression I got was that until the Community survey they had no goddamned idea what they were going to do with SoB and then literally tens of thousands of people all said 'plastic sisters pls' and they were like 'well okay then!'
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drbored wrote: Everything in this topic is just speculation and wishlisting trying to milk those few notices into something meaningful.
Yes, 'cause Emperor forbid people discuss something they're excited about.
drbored wrote: I can say that they did put a big emphasis in their trailer on 'Plastic Sisters of Battle'. Not 'plastic ministorum' or 'plastic ecclesiarchy'.
Oh get over it. Ecclesiarchy units are part of the Sisters of Battle army. It's been that way pretty much since their inception.
ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
SoB in plastic 2019 "emperor willing" and beta codex rules in chapter approved 2018
That's all we got. Everything in this topic is just speculation and wishlisting trying to milk those few notices into something meaningful. I can say that they did put a big emphasis in their trailer on 'Plastic Sisters of Battle'. Not 'plastic ministorum' or 'plastic ecclesiarchy'.
Beta rules in Chapter Approved also makes it sound like the release of the Codex might be much later in 2019, latter half at least. That would give people enough time to playtest the codex and give feedback for the final print. I doubt it would be a beta codex in December followed by the print release in January or even February. That stuff takes time to manufacture too.
However... that does make me think, if we have beta rules, how are we supposed to use them without models? Are we to use the models that we have? That would imply that the Sisters would be getting updates to existing models rather than anything new. Unless GW releases the models early in 2019 for us to use and then holds off on the Codex until it's complete...
What do you guys think?
"Beta" rules doesn't mean a damn thing. Now I'm not expecting Sisters early in 2019, which would technically give them time to address feedback, but I have my doubts that GW will have any meaningful open playtest. I expect WIP rules at the stage they were when the deadline for Chapter Approved hit, nothing more.
We'll also have to see just how open they are about the whole transparent design thing. They might just show redone old designs until very late in the process and give us "beta" rules for units we already know, with no mention of new units so as not to give their competition a head start,
Remember, until GW proves they do things differently, they ain't.
But who knows. Maybe they'll surprise us. Emperor willing.
ritualnet wrote: I've not seen all the release information, but have they said sisters will get their own codex, or just said that they will release plastic sisters (which could be part of an Imperial Agents codex)?
This is what we officially have from GW:
Yup, plastic Sisters of Battle are on their way. For reals.
Emperor willing, the Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas will be ready to take the fight to the renegade, the heretic and the unbeliever in 2019.
Now of course there is precious little chance of GW having a major model release for an army not already covered in a codex, possibly with a number of new kits that don't yet have rules at all, not also getting a shiny new codex to go with it. But, officially, we have no word of that.
I see people typing “Ministorium” and “Ministorum.”
Which is it? I go crazy over important stuff like this.
Ministorum.
This is actually not entirely true. While their official statement on warhammer community may have been sparse in the official studio preview at Adepticon they covered that the SoB
Will be receiving plastic kits.
That the development of those kits will be transparent i.e. they will be doing update posts as the design process comes along
That a beta version of the codex will be included in this year's chapter approved(obviously exluding new units).
Source: Was there.'
Thanks for adding that.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
drbored wrote: I can say that they did put a big emphasis in their trailer on 'Plastic Sisters of Battle'. Not 'plastic ministorum' or 'plastic ecclesiarchy'.
Oh get over it. Ecclesiarchy units are part of the Sisters of Battle army. It's been that way pretty much since their inception.
Agreed. It may change, but Adepta Sororitas minis are currently found in the Adeptus Ministorum section of GW’s website.
