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I raise my eyebrow at anyone that says the Robocop reboot was good. It simply wasnt. Period. End of! Id rather watch the 3rd Robocop movie then that and thats because Id at least laugh my ass off at how bad it is.
   
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I rather enjoyed it.

Took the central premise, updated with modern technological developments.

It's not as entertaining as the original - but also far from being a bad film.

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Yeah... Dredd was phenomenal because it embraced all the dark and gritty violence that the Stallone version shied away from.

Robocop reversed that theory, and removed the intensity and high stakes of the original in order to get the PG13. It did not work. His main weapon went from machine pistol to a taser! A taser! Rabble rabble rabble.

This hook reminds me of the Last Starfighter. Kid finds gizmo and attracts the notice of aliens. It's totally, almost painfully 80s. I'd love to see it pulled off, but I think the only way is if the kid gets so hardened by his struggles that he becomes a Predator and embraces their lifestyle. I'd buy that for a dollar.

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Oh- and if the kid has some awesome shades. You can't run an 80s style movie without awesome shades, pulled up on your forehead while you look down at the Macguffin.

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The RoboCop remake was cinematic gruel. It's the movie Verhoeven was parodying twenty seven years earlier, with the added twist of being milquetoast.

The first Predator was a schlock film elevated to classic status by a tight script and Arnold's performance. Predator 2 was just schlock. Predators delighted in the schlockiness of the series but pulled off some very smart scenes. This film will probably compete with P2 for bottom of the pile.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
The RoboCop remake was cinematic gruel. It's the movie Verhoeven was parodying twenty seven years earlier, with the added twist of being milquetoast.



This guy gets it!

You can't remake a parody and be serious abnout the parody premise. I know in our modern world parody is hard to pull off, since reality is often more parody than the parody. It is a parody-dox.

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Sums it up very well. This was my thought when they announced Jurassic World - regular dinosaurs aren't interesting enough to sell so we'll make x-treem ones ... wait is that the plot of the movie or the background of how the movie was written? Same thing with RoboCop remake - what if we remove everything that made it human for the sake of corporate profits ... again, are we talking about the character or the IP?

   
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New Trailer:




Some sort of Alpha Predator or something. Not sure how I feel about this movie.

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Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?
   
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Still looks kinda meh

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


Canon had the females be the bigger gender, from what I remember. It was 20 years ago when I last read any Predator fiction.

I think canon is out the window though, if I remeber the premise of this movie.

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 nels1031 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


Canon had the females be the bigger gender, from what I remember. It was 20 years ago when I last read any Predator fiction.

I think canon is out the window though, if I remeber the premise of this movie.


Canon has always been nebulous at best. Different writers have done different things and the avp movies (particularly the first one) threw most of it right out the window.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


spoilers for the comics, even though it was like 30 years ago:

Spoiler:
The very first AvP ever was a comic crossover, and the plot for that was juvenile Predators hunting on a planet which had been seeded with xenomorphs via an an autonomous drone - queenless xenomorphs being considered easy "training" prey. The Predators were not aware humans were also present on the planet, and crash-landed on arrival. The Predator elder was incapacitated. The young Predators then engaged on an unauthorized hunt of the Humans (in the lore, hunting Humans was considered a high honor and had to be earned). When the elder Predator came to, he executed the young predators who had engaged in dishonorable hunts (taken trophies from children, etc).

The elder predator eventually teams up with an honorable human who had helped save him to destroy the human colony (turns out, there was a Queen after all and so the xenomorph population was out of control).


Some elements of this have made it into movies, but man, if they had adapted the original 4 part comic faithfully it would have been amazing.

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 Ouze wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


spoilers for the comics, even though it was like 30 years ago:

Spoiler:
The very first AvP ever was a comic crossover, and the plot for that was juvenile Predators hunting on a planet which had been seeded with xenomorphs via an an autonomous drone - queenless xenomorphs being considered easy "training" prey. The Predators were not aware humans were also present on the planet, and crash-landed on arrival. The Predator elder was incapacitated. The young Predators then engaged on an unauthorized hunt of the Humans (in the lore, hunting Humans was considered a high honor and had to be earned). When the elder Predator came to, he executed the young predators who had engaged in dishonorable hunts (taken trophies from children, etc).

The elder predator eventually teams up with an honorable human who had helped save him to destroy the human colony (turns out, there was a Queen after all and so the xenomorph population was out of control).


Some elements of this have made it into movies, but man, if they had adapted the original 4 part comic faithfully it would have been amazing.


The book version by S.D. Perry is better than the comic and goes into a lot of interesting detail on pred society.


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 Ouze wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


spoilers for the comics, even though it was like 30 years ago:

Spoiler:
The very first AvP ever was a comic crossover, and the plot for that was juvenile Predators hunting on a planet which had been seeded with xenomorphs via an an autonomous drone - queenless xenomorphs being considered easy "training" prey. The Predators were not aware humans were also present on the planet, and crash-landed on arrival. The Predator elder was incapacitated. The young Predators then engaged on an unauthorized hunt of the Humans (in the lore, hunting Humans was considered a high honor and had to be earned). When the elder Predator came to, he executed the young predators who had engaged in dishonorable hunts (taken trophies from children, etc).

The elder predator eventually teams up with an honorable human who had helped save him to destroy the human colony (turns out, there was a Queen after all and so the xenomorph population was out of control).


Some elements of this have made it into movies, but man, if they had adapted the original 4 part comic faithfully it would have been amazing.


That the one on the Desert Planet where the Predator teams up with the woman that eventually goes off to live with the Predators, or a different one?
   
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Not sure if it was a desert planet (I seem to recall the humans being corporate ranchers) but yes that’s the one.

Dont think that concept has any relevance here, however. This movie has some kind of evolution gimmick.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
Not sure if it was a desert planet (I seem to recall the humans being corporate ranchers) but yes that’s the one.

Dont think that concept has any relevance here, however. This movie has some kind of evolution gimmick.


Ok, yeah thats the one I wanted the AvP movies to be when they were first announced.

On topic though, yeah it does seem from the previous trailer, that evolving themselves is a thing. Even with out the Super Predator at the end, the Predator shown hunting looks more like the Super Predators from Predators in appearance (equipment wise), while the one in Mexico looks like an OG Pred.
   
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The juveline predators in the AvP comics were roughly similar in size to the adult ones.

This one seems absolutely massive, towering over the other predator as though it's Godzilla or something. What's wrong with just the regular Predators, which after all just one of hunted down and wiped out an elite special ops team, only being stopped by Arnie at his absolute 80's bicep-size peak?

Again you can almost picture the corporate board room talk "We've already done bigger predators. If we make these even more massive ones this film is likely to make even more money."

Agreed that the basic plot sounds poor and can see myself getting annoyed by the kid that will no doubt do the classic "I won't do what anyone tells me, will get other people killed/maimed, but somehow not get skinned alive myself, which most people watching this film probably want to see happen." Also the male lead had a smug, vaguely irritating grin on his face in every scene in that trailer. And I'm guessing now he probably won't end up as a skull-trophy either.

Am already finding reasons not to like this film

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Its not even out and we have barely seen anything.

The predator trilogy has been consistently good to great. Im willing to give this movie its fair shake.


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The reason the Predators keep getting larger is because Space Marines keep getting bigger and they don't want to look weedy by comparison.


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 Ouze wrote:
The reason the Predators keep getting larger is because Space Marines keep getting bigger and they don't want to look weedy by comparison.



I wonder if the kids puts on the armor and mutates into super predator.

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 Frazzled wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
The reason the Predators keep getting larger is because Space Marines keep getting bigger and they don't want to look weedy by comparison.



I wonder if the kids puts on the armor and mutates into super predator.


*Shudder*



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Well, the second trailer was a bit better than the first, but I'm still ruefully pessimistic about the film we're going to get.
   
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If they can't do a good one I just want them to stop.

I want a (new) good Predator movie so badly. Predators was definitely an improvement over the AVP movies. But go back to what worked. One badass predator wrecking people in terrifying ways.

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 SickSix wrote:
If they can't do a good one I just want them to stop.

I want a (new) good Predator movie so badly. Predators was definitely an improvement over the AVP movies. But go back to what worked. One badass predator wrecking people in terrifying ways.


Outside of a couple of the guys in the suits not knowing how to move like a predator predators is probably the second best predator movie. It certainly has less plot hole/mistakes than 2. And 2 is also great imo.

Forget avp. Avpr is pretty decent. Great predator though.

Preds have only had 1 blemish in the first avp movie. I dont understand the lack of faith in another one.


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I liked the AvP movie overall myself, better than the second one actually.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
I liked the AvP movie overall myself, better than the second one actually.


You are not alone aparently! Again, this opinion never ceases to amaze me! It has worse acting, worse special effects and the titular monsters behave the least like the creatures they are supposed to be.


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 Ouze wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Looks to me it's less "Alpha Predator", more "Adult Predator". Canon was always that the juveniles were the ones who were out on their first hunts against humans/xenomorphs, right?


spoilers for the comics, even though it was like 30 years ago:

Spoiler:
The very first AvP ever was a comic crossover, and the plot for that was juvenile Predators hunting on a planet which had been seeded with xenomorphs via an an autonomous drone - queenless xenomorphs being considered easy "training" prey. The Predators were not aware humans were also present on the planet, and crash-landed on arrival. The Predator elder was incapacitated. The young Predators then engaged on an unauthorized hunt of the Humans (in the lore, hunting Humans was considered a high honor and had to be earned). When the elder Predator came to, he executed the young predators who had engaged in dishonorable hunts (taken trophies from children, etc).

The elder predator eventually teams up with an honorable human who had helped save him to destroy the human colony (turns out, there was a Queen after all and so the xenomorph population was out of control).


Some elements of this have made it into movies, but man, if they had adapted the original 4 part comic faithfully it would have been amazing.


I've got that comic, first edition.
Spoiler:
The heroine was a Japanese lady who teams up with the lead Predator to save the planet from being overrun and then becomes an honorary Predator.

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Having a human earn the respect of and team up with a Predator is a common theme in several of the AvP stories, which is why that part of the first movie doesn’t bother me at all but was rather expected.

Also the acting has to be Really bad before I take notice of it. Very rarely will that ever be a complaint from me.

 
   
 
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