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 Ghool wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
I'm surprised Degenisis Clan Wars isn't doing better. The design work looks super slick and the art is incredible.

If I had the money I'd be pretty tempted.

Any theories as to why it isn't performing better?

Too many open projects still to be delivered? At minimum $100 per project, and what has it been, 5-6 projects opened in the past 6 months? And several from 2-3 years ago still to be fulfilled.
There comes a point where your target audience becomes saturated with products and either doesn’t want or need any more, or the customers funds are being stretched too thin.
I assume the reason CMON went to Gamefound was the ability to have more than 5 open projects.
KS won’t let them run more campaigns the 5 AFAIK.

I personally have way too many games with minis. It will take a lot to get me to buy another one.
I assume I’m not alone in that?

Yeah, that is a good point. I'm out of money after backing ASOIAF Tactics and Dead Keep.

Still waiting on Death May Die to deliver... and Mordred (probably a mistake to back that one)

 Gallahad wrote:
I'm surprised Degenisis Clan Wars isn't doing better. The design work looks super slick and the art is incredible.

If I had the money I'd be pretty tempted.

Any theories as to why it isn't performing better?

Well, it seems to fit into the HATE niche, and while the minis look slick and I love the terrain, I already have HATE, Dark Eden, Dark Age and Gaslands. I really don't need/want another game of that theme.

Perhaps if I was a fan of the series, it would mean a lot more to me, but as for now I just plan on buying a terrain pack at the inevitable Miniature Market clearance sale.

I'd have been interested, but the shipping on CMON projects has just priced me out (for a while now)

nowadays it's got to be retail with cheaper/free shipping even if i miss out on some of the KS extras (especially since i'm not in a position to grab everything

Like Marvel Zombies, DCeased is getting a direct to retail version in October

We are pleased to introduce this as the direct-to-retail core box for DCeased: A Zombicide Game featuring exclusive character designs and never-seen-before missions!
Coming October ‘24!

> Any theories as to why it isn't performing better?

More guess than theory here...

Too many dungeoncrawlers already out there, including CMON's Massive Darkness games. Paul Bonner is popular amongst hobbyists, but I dunno if any boardgamers really care about the artist when they buy a game. You're not getting a truckload of mini's like you do in some CMON games. And, of course, none of the "excitement" of your typical CMON crowdfunding. I'm not actually seeing a running total, either, so dunno how much of a success or failure the project is -- nor the usual excitement crowdfunding has when it makes a lot of money.

DC Super Heroes United is live and well funded for anyone interested

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/dc-heroes-united

Cardhaus Asmodee Sale. Includes Clearance items of other companies. Didn't see ASOIF boxes? Picked up Trudvang for $35.

https://www.cardhaus.com/

Brotherhood without banners coming to the ASOIF game.

Brotherhood without Banners are looking very exciting.

The game is great, the minis are great, the price is great, so you can be sure I'll be adding this faction to my collection.

So interesting info from the Game Classy podcast,

CMON is planning to sell some of the IPs they hold for $12 million

(https://www.tipranks.com/news/company-announcements/cmon-limited-eyes-major-intellectual-property-deal)

what is it going to be ? It can't be the marvel stuff as that's licenced not owned, it seems cheap for Zombicide (and would they sell that anyway as it's their banker). Could it be one or more of the IPs they own but seem to have given up on like Wrath of Kings or Dark Age (or Anystr and Hel which they recently picked up from Mythic)

be interesting to know what it (they?) are

Smog, Dark Age, Wrath of Kings, B-sieged, Kaosball, some Mythic stuff(but that was too recent).

Anything else I miss?

Not sure if they own or licence dust but the promised game hasn’t appeared in the last couple years so may be an IP they are abandoning. All they have released is the graphic novel which came with some models and game cards for unreleased game which appeared to be a simple reskin of Zombicide.

They've also run KS for

Massive Darkness, Cthulhu Death May Die, Arcadia Quest, were all moderately successful

Blood Rage, Ankh, Rising Sun again moderately successful and good games but i don't see them as marketable IPs they're more loved for Adrian Smiths (the designer) name/talents

Rum & Bones, Xenoshyft fairly minor

Hate (? not sure it this is owned or licenced),

and it wouldn't surprise me if there are more IPs they've picked up but not used like the ones the got from Mythic

Big Changes at CMON
Looks like there are big changes coming to CMON, according to notices posted to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, where the company’s shares are traded. The big news is that CMON has entered into a non-binding Memorandum of Understanding to sell some of the company's intellectual properties for $12 million, a considerable chunk. The company is seeking to enter into a definitive agreement by the end of October.

A second announcement reveals that Chief Operating Officer David Preti, who’s been COO since 2019 and with the company since 2016, will be resigning that role effective in March 2025. Preti had also been an executive Director of the company; that role is changing immediately to non-executive Director, for which he has a three-year contract.

While I'd love for it to include Dark Age and Wrath of Kings, that asking price seems a bit steep for...just about anything/everything that it could be?

Thought the wording of the news certainly makes it seem like it's for sure happening?

So maybe it really will be for all of the non-licensed properties?

Sworn Knights to go along with the Brotherhood without banners which is getting a starter set in December.

https://www.cmon.com/products/brotherhood-without-banners-starter-set/

Those Brotherhood knights look so good. Great dynamic sculpts. I can't wait.

Cthulhu Death May Die: Forbidden Reaches announced - The big mini is Godzilla.

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/dmd-forbidden-reaches





Also the Super Fantasy Brawl Reborn preorder is live

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/super-fantasy-brawl-reborn?ref=explore-creator-page

Gotta say, I don't love that they are starting another Death my Die season kickstarter before fulfillment of their last one.

Yeah, I gotta say, this is the straw that broke this fan's back. Despite Death May Die Fear of the Unknown being in retail for a month+ they haven't even booked the containers for backers rewards here in the USA, and they are already marketing the next one!

I'm a huge fan of CMON games. All my favorite games are produced by them. I spend absurd amounts of money on their products. I doubled up on a CDMD: Fear of The Unknown because the sculpts are so perfect for me. I have nearly $1k of outstanding product from Kickstarters I'm expecting from them.

I'm done backing CMON Kickstarters.

As it’s a preview it could still be a few months before it goes live so they any be waiting for the last KS to deliver.

The Godzilla old one looks to be the same promo model from this years cons so is no where near as big as the models base suggests. More in line with a regular boss model.

If this means mere mortals can get the SDCC exclusive Godzilla without paying Ebay scammers $250+ then I am at least interested...

That said CMoNs "More is more" design mentality gets really old. Even their best games just get soooooooo overdone that at some point I just check out. Marvel United is a perfect example of reaching a saturation point where it just isn't possible to play all 300+ characters etc.

It really depends on the ip. As a guy with many bookcases of Marvel Omnibus books I can say there are still characters and character variants I would want in another season. As a huge HP Lovecraft fan who has read all of the material, many of the Lovecraft Circle writers, add played a lot of Call of Cthulhu I don’t think that Mountains of Madness needed anything besides a tile set. Maybe heroes in winter clothes miniatures if you wanted to get crazy. I don’t know what news gods or monsters are left? It seems like they would really be scraping the barrel on a third campaign.

Looks like Massive Darkness is coming back for another go too

They also announced Marvel Invasions not much details yet though it looks like it could be along the lines of the Zombicide games but there is no Zc branding.

More Marvel miniatures I don't need, but damn it, I'm probably in

No KS for this, if they get it out I'll just overpay at my LGS.

This is actually the Marvel game I was clamoring for the in the first place. I’ve been saying since Marvel Zombicide that the basic Zombicide style game play would fit a lot of Marvel bad guys perfectly. Secret Invasion is perfect you can have Skrulls trying to replace bystanders and Superskrull versions of heroes as the abominations. I think it might be good to add a horde controller villain like the necromancer in black plague as well. Soooooo many other things I hope they do: Inferno vs demons lead by goblin queen and Mr Sinister, brood, Ultron leading his drones, Thanos with hordes of outriders, Hydra, AIM, Annihilus with his Annihilation Wave. Also super amped we are getting classic costumes this time around. I’m almost hyperventilating this is my dream project. Hopefully we get Marvel Zombicide crossover cards. If the game is good AND it gets me tons more new Marvel characters or classic looks to add on to the Zombicide collection for use in Marvel RPG this will be my campaign of the year.

From the ASOIAF Tactics (i.e. GOT skirmish) campaign...

"While our original delivery estimate was February 2025, the complexity and ambition of this project have led to adjustments. We are now targeting a delivery around Q3 2025 to ensure the final product meets the standards you expect and deserve."

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/a-song-of-ice-fire-tactics/updates/43


And a new campaign for a minis heavy dungeon crawler RPG board game hybrid has started:

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/massivedarkness-shadowreach

giant groundhog!!

The current MD campaign is sluggish to say the least. It's so lackluster, that me, the biggest fan of Massive Darkness in the world, is considering dropping my pledge and just waiting for retail.

That's how badly they're running the campaign.

 Ghool wrote:
The current MD campaign is sluggish to say the least. It's so lackluster, that me, the biggest fan of Massive Darkness in the world, is considering dropping my pledge and just waiting for retail.

That's how badly they're running the campaign.

That's quite surprising. I'm still incredibly salty at CMON for doing the dirty on Dark Age so haven't followed them closely since then, but my impression was they gave up their own minis IPs to focus on massive crowd funding projects. So that they are ballsing that up too is a bit sad I suppose.