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ITT- "Don't care. Got mine." from all the usual crowd.

Quelle fething surprise.

I hope Vostroyans come back in plastic. They are the most pure 40k regiment, the perfect mix between the weirdness of warhammer, historical influence, and their own character, not "Historical but in space" (As steel legion, Krieg, Mordian, etc...) or "Movie parody" (As Catachan, Cadia, Tallarn, etc...)

Armageddon has a great part of the lore, they might even get their own faction in a near future.

Steel Legion metal infantry discontinued? -Good riddance!
Make way for cool plastic guardsmen and give the Steel Legion the attention it deserves.

Edit: oh, realised the steel legion still up. Darn. Nevermind.

 Peregrine wrote:
Why would you want to play in GW stores?

I hate myself, sir!

I think plastic Vostroyans will literally end me.

Back when we were filling out the GW survey all my suggestions were about updating the model range with something like 3 boxes and 2 upgrade sprues per regiment. I am really hoping they were going to do this anyway.

 Fayric wrote:
Armageddon has a great part of the lore, they might even get their own faction in a near future.

Steel Legion metal infantry discontinued? -Good riddance!
Make way for cool plastic guardsmen and give the Steel Legion the attention it deserves.

Edit: oh, realised the steel legion still up. Darn. Nevermind.

That is a conundrum. With all of the rumors surrounding an upcoming Armageddon campaign, one would think the Steel Legion would be no longer available in preparation for a plastic release of all the regiments. That is unless they plan to axe the Steel Legion in the upcoming campaign. I would be highly surprised if they did considering Cadia just got destroyed, Elysians are now OOP, & if you look at the galaxy map Armageddon is like right next to Terra. If Armageddon falls, the IoM is basically done. If the imperium cannot hold their own doorstep they have no hope of securing the rest of their borders.

Well, that s a shame. Thanks for the news nevertheless. I just had to buy vostroyan for a friend, a pity. I am ok with gw managing their stock and all. But why they do not put it on last chance to buy ? This I cannot agree with.

 Peregrine wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Nope. Either you bother to buy something or not. It's that simple. If you don't get it before it is gone, 6hen it wasn't important after all

So every 40k player should buy several copies of every single model the day they pick up their first starter set, and if they don't do so then it wasn't important and they can't complain?

Yeah, I'm with Peregrine on this one. Not everyone has the disposable income to buy everything right away. And what about the players who last month decided "I want to start a new army, I'll start Vostroyans and build them up over the next few months." Or the new player who decided that was the faction they were going to play after playing some starter games? As far as miniatures not being that important after all, as this is a hobby you can make that claim about literally anything, but they are still something people want. I understand discontinuing the models, but it would have been courteous to give people a bit of warning.

I think GW is in the process of doing a line clean-up for 40K, like they did for Fantasy around AOS’s release. I’m wondering if beside some of these metal minis being dropped if we may see some existing lines go away.

What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

 Stormonu wrote:
I think GW is in the process of doing a line clean-up for 40K, like they did for Fantasy around AOS’s release. I’m wondering if beside some of these metal minis being dropped if we may see some existing lines go away.

What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

The regiments?

That's basically it.

 Stormonu wrote:
I think GW is in the process of doing a line clean-up for 40K, like they did for Fantasy around AOS’s release. I’m wondering if beside some of these metal minis being dropped if we may see some existing lines go away.

What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

I am pretty sure you are right.

EDIT : more importantly GW is going to thrash away a lot of old ex metal kit as Incubi or Banshee.
But I do not think they could consider throwing an integral faction

 reluxor wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
I think GW is in the process of doing a line clean-up for 40K, like they did for Fantasy around AOS’s release. I’m wondering if beside some of these metal minis being dropped if we may see some existing lines go away.

What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

I am pretty sure you are right

Why? Because he said Tomb Kings and Bretonnia?

There really isn't that much fat to trim in regards to 40k. They've been taking care of it over the years. With Fantasy, we literally lost factions all at once because they were ceasing to exist in-game.

I suspect new Regiments that would clash with the aesthetics of the old ones are coming.

Waiting around is a pain though, this could take years.

 Ginsu33 wrote:
I suspect new Regiments that would clash with the aesthetics of the old ones are coming.

Waiting around is a pain though, this could take years.

Honestly? I've been thinking for awhile that the removal of the Solar Auxilia from FW's range is because we're going to see something similar to that in concept/design from GW in plastic. The stuff from Rogue Trader seems to be a step in that possible direction.

With Guilliman being back and seeming to want to return to 'the good ol' days' I could see him doing something like that.

Sooo.. no one has been able to get so much as a peep from GW on this issue?

 Phobosftw wrote:
Sooo.. no one has been able to get so much as a peep from GW on this issue?

We've gotten answers. There was a whole thread in 40k general with the Facebook screencaps of emails.

They're donezo. They could come back at some point as a Made to Order range.

 kestral wrote:
Third party companies will probably pick up the Vostorian look, or at least I hope so, because they were awesome!

god damn that would make me a happy clam. I've been hoping someone would make me some heads I can stick on units that come with cadian crew for a while.


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 Commissar Benny wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Armageddon has a great part of the lore, they might even get their own faction in a near future.

Steel Legion metal infantry discontinued? -Good riddance!
Make way for cool plastic guardsmen and give the Steel Legion the attention it deserves.

Edit: oh, realised the steel legion still up. Darn. Nevermind.

That is a conundrum. With all of the rumors surrounding an upcoming Armageddon campaign, one would think the Steel Legion would be no longer available in preparation for a plastic release of all the regiments. That is unless they plan to axe the Steel Legion in the upcoming campaign. I would be highly surprised if they did considering Cadia just got destroyed, Elysians are now OOP, & if you look at the galaxy map Armageddon is like right next to Terra. If Armageddon falls, the IoM is basically done. If the imperium cannot hold their own doorstep they have no hope of securing the rest of their borders.

they might, and when they do, they'll probably be about 45$ for a box of 10 figures, because that's just what GW miniatures cost now and that is a totally sane price for a squad that amounts to 2.8% of a standard tournament army.

 Stormonu wrote:
What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

Mini marines.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

Mini marines.

I still think that's coming down the road, but not until they have Primaris replacements in place for the existing kits - stuff like the Rhino, Bikes, Centurions/Terminators and the like. My guess is a year after they've finished with the first pass of the 8E codex line.

For now, it looks like the subfactions for the Guards are on the chopping block, and possibly the Inquisition models might get wiped/thinned next.

 Stormonu wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
What would be the equivalent of Tomb Kings and Brettonia for 40K?

Mini marines.

I still think that's coming down the road, but not until they have Primaris replacements in place for the existing kits - stuff like the Rhino, Bikes, Centurions/Terminators and the like. My guess is a year after they've finished with the first pass of the 8E codex line.

For now, it looks like the subfactions for the Guards are on the chopping block, and possibly the Inquisition models might get wiped/thinned next.

Okay, let's be clear:
"Subfactions" for the Guard=Psykers, Commissars, Ratlings/Ogryns, and Scions.

What they're doing is removing regiment specific models. Regiments are technically factions--but not in the way you're plugging this nonsensical ranting.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Only true if you have infinite money. But for me I have to pick a few items each order.

Not even close. I play on a budget, probably less than yours. Last 3+ years, I've net zero spend on hobby, actually extracting funds from GW product.

You had over 20 years (Tallarn & Mordian metals were released in 1996). If it wasn't worth your time in the past 20+ years, then it wasn't important.

If it ever becomes important, eBay is over there...

 Ravajaxe wrote:
So the title pretty much sums it up. All the old (and not so old) metal infantry regiments are OOP and "no longer available" on the GW website.
Even the Armageddon Steel legion (dating from 3rd edition) and Vostroyan (dating from middle of 4th edition, which is newer than current cadians).
These were still quite complete ranges, until now. No warning, no "Last Chance to Buy" operation.

So pretty sadface for me.

Could it be, new plastic guardsmen kits in the future? Only hope can save us.

Vostroyans were the onlyIG regiment I ever liked, but I couldn’t bring myself to buy metal. I’m still hoping that GW will do them, or something very like them, in plastic one day.

 Sabotage! wrote:
they are still something people want.

... but not enough to actually buy.

And that's the problem.

If you're not buying the thing when it's available, then you have zero right to complain when it's no longer available.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Only true if you have infinite money. But for me I have to pick a few items each order.

Not even close. I play on a budget, probably less than yours. Last 3+ years, I've net zero spend on hobby, actually extracting funds from GW product.

You had over 20 years (Tallarn & Mordian metals were released in 1996). If it wasn't worth your time in the past 20+ years, then it wasn't important.

If it ever becomes important, eBay is over there...

Dafuc??

I have have the whole tallarn, mordian, old school cadian range. I was working my way of through the sister of battle range. I just 40 minutes ago put in an order for the last sister models I needed. Why? Because I am scared they will go without a last chance offer. If valhallan and vostroyan would come last chance today, I would have bought them instead. And sisters new month.
Is that so hard to get inside your brain?

And about 20 years.. I have some gakky painted valhallans from when I was a kid. But recently as an adult I have become a completionist collector. Who want completely new and unpainted models. You think I can buy GWs complete range in one single order?

I would hope that GW have proven to themselves with Necromunda that they can sell single unit plastic boxes in decent enough volumes to make IG regiments a worthwhile line.

Plastic regiments her we come.

I have no doubt they would sell far more IG regiment boxes (even better if they were dual/triple regiment styles) than Necromunda gangs. I still don't see it happening though.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
they are still something people want.

... but not enough to actually buy.

And that's the problem.

If you're not buying the thing when it's available, then you have zero right to complain when it's no longer available.

Which goes back to what I said, if they aren't selling well enough, stop selling them. The main issue I have is that they didn't give any forewarning they were discontinuing several product lines, which I'm sure leaves a fair number of people in a rather bad spot. If I had half a Vostroyan army, and planned on finishing it with parts of my next two paychecks, I'd be pretty upset, as my only option now to finish said army is to go and pay double or more on the secondary market. I personally haven't played 40k in years, and have no real plans to ever again, but dropping a product abruptly leaves a lot of players up a creek.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If you're not buying the thing when it's available, then you have zero right to complain when it's no longer available.

That's ridiculous and ridiculous and I'm going to ridicule it and there's nothing you can do to stop me from ridiculing that ridiculous assumptions.
They definitely should have put a notice saying the lines were closed to being discontinued.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ginsu33 wrote:
I suspect new Regiments that would clash with the aesthetics of the old ones are coming.

Waiting around is a pain though, this could take years.

Honestly? I've been thinking for awhile that the removal of the Solar Auxilia from FW's range is because we're going to see something similar to that in concept/design from GW in plastic. The stuff from Rogue Trader seems to be a step in that possible direction.

With Guilliman being back and seeming to want to return to 'the good ol' days' I could see him doing something like that.

This was my exact thought. They’ll consolidate the range by introducing a 40k equivalent to the Solar Auxilia.