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 Crazyterran wrote:
Hey, the Admech can use the termite now too! :p

I guess it just goes to show that trough perseverance, dedication, and lots of bitching, you can finally get something that really should have been in your codex from day one about 4 years later.

It still absolutely blows my mind that the codex that makes the vehicles for the entirety of the Imperium has the least amount of vehicles out of all the codexes.

Much like how the largest fighting force in the Imperium can only get two mediocre infantry ranges in plastic, or how an entire branch of the Imperium is just now getting plastic models in 2019, or any other number of things that happens when GW just can't get off their stupid space marine kick

How many kits would any one Regiment require? Infanry Squad, HW Squad and Command Squad?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How many kits would any one Regiment require? Infanry Squad, HW Squad and Command Squad?

That would be my thoughts on it, HBMC - and when it comes to the HW Squad, most of the design work (the weapons) is already done. GW just need to design the crew.

Hopefully new Infantry squads (and command squads?) would feature more special weapon options, though. Going by the Cadian kit, there would be room to include a melta & plasma set of arms, at the very least.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
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Much like how the largest fighting force in the Imperium can only get two mediocre infantry ranges in plastic, or how an entire branch of the Imperium is just now getting plastic models in 2019, or any other number of things that happens when GW just can't get off their stupid space marine kick

Well seeing profits they make not really stupid. Guess they prefer profits rather than variety in model lines

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How many kits would any one Regiment require? Infanry Squad, HW Squad and Command Squad?

With the way they pack sprues now I would say they could do all 3 in one. Really you need 10 bodies (go with single bodies and legs for better poses and more sprue space), 10 las gun arms, 5 special weapon arms. Add 2 kneeling bodies (or make 2 of the 10 kneeling), and an officer body and you're done. Certainly no harder than the Empire Handgunners or Sword/spear guys.

That's certainly possible, but I'd imagine that wherever they can find a way to remove sprue redundancies they would.

For instance, the heavy weapon sprue is completely independent and could be used with any regiment type. No need to sculpt new heavy weapons.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's certainly possible, but I'd imagine that wherever they can find a way to remove sprue redundancies they would.

For instance, the heavy weapon sprue is completely independent and could be used with any regiment type. No need to sculpt new heavy weapons.

The sprue looks ropey when compared to the more solid looking standards of more modern plastics, it should really see an update in line with new guard.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Hey, the Admech can use the termite now too! :p

I guess it just goes to show that trough perseverance, dedication, and lots of bitching, you can finally get something that really should have been in your codex from day one about 4 years later.

It still absolutely blows my mind that the codex that makes the vehicles for the entirety of the Imperium has the least amount of vehicles out of all the codexes.

Much like how the largest fighting force in the Imperium can only get two mediocre infantry ranges in plastic, or how an entire branch of the Imperium is just now getting plastic models in 2019, or any other number of things that happens when GW just can't get off their stupid space marine kick

Whats even worse is the development of the Primaris line when all these other things are dying on the vine. When every range has current plastic for all their infantry, then I'd understand Primaris. Right now though? Asinine to me, hell Chaos has at least 5 other types of marine that need kits if they just had to make more.


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 Dysartes wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How many kits would any one Regiment require? Infanry Squad, HW Squad and Command Squad?

That would be my thoughts on it, HBMC - and when it comes to the HW Squad, most of the design work (the weapons) is already done. GW just need to design the crew.

Hopefully new Infantry squads (and command squads?) would feature more special weapon options, though. Going by the Cadian kit, there would be room to include a melta & plasma set of arms, at the very least.

It would be easier if GW just made an all infantry kit for each regiment that had the arms and crouching legs that could be used for heavy weapons along with all the stuff needed for Command squads in that one box, then make a single kit with just heavy weapons in it. This way you only need a single upgrade kit containing heavy weapons for all the regiments and each regiment would only need one box.

So all this talk got me to take down my 2nd edition codex and I got an answer for the Tallarn basis.

TL/DR they are Arabs from an Arab world, but Capt Wasshisname and his unit were stranded on another desert world, teamed up with local nomads, learned their ways and led them in a a guerilla war.

So yeah Lawrence of Arabia except Lawrence was an Arab dude and led a bunch of Mad Max tribesmen against psychic witches.

So yay, we're all correct!

Yep, all of the "old" IG regiments which were launched mid-90's are absolute tropes, but fun ones and I miss seeing them on the table.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How many kits would any one Regiment require? Infanry Squad, HW Squad and Command Squad?

With some careful sprue design, I think you could get it down to a sprue that has two sections to make basic infantry and one section for the sergeant and special weapons, and another sprue that has one section for command squad bits and two sections foe heavy weapons.

So, an Infantry Squad has all three sections from sprue 1. a Command squad has an infantry section and the special weapons section from psrue 1 and the command section from sprue 2 and a heavy weapon box has one infantry section from sprue 1 and the two heavy sections from sprue 2.

If it's possible to fit enough heads on the sprue, you could cover Cadians, Praetorians and Mordians with one set of kits. Catachans would need replacement torsos, arms and heads, and Steel Legion, Valhallans and Tallarns would all need to be their own sprues. Although depending on how it's done, the sprue of heavy weapons and command section bits could be made sufficiently generic as to cover all the regiments.

Thanks for that snippet, it was great to find out a little back storey for the Tallarn. Nice little bit of history.

That's the backstory for the special character (who, along with Lord Solar Macharius in the Imperial Guard codex, and a couple of characters in the Space Wolf codex, were "historical", and not living in the "present" of the setting at the time). The backstory for the planet was that millennia after being devastated during the Heresy (Tallarn was a fertile agri-world before the Iron Warriors invaded), a huge Chaos artefact was uncovered. Eldar invaded to destroy it, the Imperial forces fought back - until the daemons started coming out, at which point the Eldar and Tallarn PDF allied against the daemonic incursion and sealed up or destroyed the artefact.

Nork Deddog was long dead in his original fluff, IIRC.

And I was right, Al'rahem is Lawrence of Arabia.

Y'all gotta remember that this is a game written by Brits.

I feel obliged to post this Jes Goodwin design.





What might have been...

If GW does replace the Cadians and Catachans (who are now nearly old enough to vote) this would be a great direction for a single regiment kit.

I'm amazed it took until pg9 for that to be posted.

I don't know if anyone else sees it but those designs in the second image remind me a lot of the Skitarii kits for some reason, look at the shape and design of the armored chest piece.

I’d max my credit card to buy a whole nother Guard army if they released those Goodwin troopers.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I’d max my credit card to buy a whole nother Guard army if they released those Goodwin troopers.

You might need to call your bank then...

https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/regiments-of-the-galaxys-finest/products/hexenheim-storm-troopers-10-man-squad

while not exact, they are very close.