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Can’t argue against that hard of a line. Guess I’m for putting kids in cages!

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
Can’t argue against that hard of a line. Guess I’m for putting kids in cages!

So, more deflection and refusal to address the substance of the argument.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Seriously, the US needs a better political system. What about representative democracy with more than two parties?

Absolutely.

What is the political difference between China and the US? One party.

Reminder: ignoring in-thread moderator instructions = OT forum suspension.

Just so we are clear “agree with me or you are evil” type arguments are not going to fly in this thread. If you want to post ITT you need to hold yourself to higher standard. if you can’t then take a break. Thanks!

 Peregrine wrote:

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
I have no fear of the possibilty I’m wrong on some of the things I feel. Being wrong on Dakka isn’t something I’ll lose sleep over. I’ve made my feelings known. Alot of you disagree. Some appear to think I’m the problem. So be it. I’ll continue to take action in the ways I feel is best for myself and my country. Maybe I’m just the guy on the beach screaming at the approaching hurricane. An exercise in futility. But I’ll take that over compromise.

So do you actually have any evidence for your position to dispute the evidence that you are wrong, or just stubborn determination not to admit that you're doing something wrong?

And yea, I guess I’m an a-hole for not shedding tears over the children. I feel bad about it, but don’t tell me I’m somehow endorsing it because I’m voting third party.

I'll tell you that because it's the truth. You have three choices here:

1) Vote for the party putting children in cages.

2) Vote for the other party.

3) Stay home on election day (or vote third-party, which is exactly equivalent to staying home on election day) as a statement that you don't care enough to take even the most minimal action against putting children in cages.

Anything but a D vote is endorsement of Trump's policy of putting children in cages. If you're in agreement with that policy, fine, but don't pretend that your voting choices are anything but a passive endorsement of it.

I have no problem with anything that is happening at the boarder in regards to children or families. Unwanted alien invaders will not be treated well. The process will likely be scary - hopefully scary enough to the point they wont try to do it again...(they will try again). Lets get real here...no one is even getting hurt (and anyone that does - it's their fault). Call me an A-Hole but I really don't care - every single parent knows what they are getting into attempting to come here illegally. It is entirely on the criminal here.

"but the kids - they are crying"
Had a 2 kids crying in the new Jurassic park Movie I watched over the weekend. It ruined the whole experience for me. Anyways - sometimes kids cry even when they are at a movie about freaking dinosaurs. Kids cry...It's not the end of the world.

Also lets completely ignore the fact that Dems have done a complete 180 on illegal immigration and these policies were in place under Obama as well. AND trump has put some legislation into place to keep families together during the deportation process.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
I have no fear of the possibilty I’m wrong on some of the things I feel. Being wrong on Dakka isn’t something I’ll lose sleep over. I’ve made my feelings known. Alot of you disagree. Some appear to think I’m the problem. So be it. I’ll continue to take action in the ways I feel is best for myself and my country. Maybe I’m just the guy on the beach screaming at the approaching hurricane. An exercise in futility. But I’ll take that over compromise.

So do you actually have any evidence for your position to dispute the evidence that you are wrong, or just stubborn determination not to admit that you're doing something wrong?

And yea, I guess I’m an a-hole for not shedding tears over the children. I feel bad about it, but don’t tell me I’m somehow endorsing it because I’m voting third party.

I'll tell you that because it's the truth. You have three choices here:

1) Vote for the party putting children in cages.

2) Vote for the other party.

3) Stay home on election day (or vote third-party, which is exactly equivalent to staying home on election day) as a statement that you don't care enough to take even the most minimal action against putting children in cages.

Anything but a D vote is endorsement of Trump's policy of putting children in cages. If you're in agreement with that policy, fine, but don't pretend that your voting choices are anything but a passive endorsement of it.

I have no problem with anything that is happening at the boarder in regards to children or families. Unwanted alien invaders will not be treated well. The process will likely be scary - hopefully scary enough to the point they wont try to do it again...(they will try again). Lets get real here...no one is even getting hurt (and anyone that does - it's their fault). Call me an A-Hole but I really don't care - every single parent knows what they are getting into attempting to come here illegally. It is entirely on the criminal here.

"but the kids - they are crying"
Had a 2 kids crying in the new Jurassic park Movie I watched over the weekend. It ruined the whole experience for me. Anyways - sometimes kids cry even when they are at a movie about freaking dinosaurs. Kids cry...It's not the end of the world.

Also lets completely ignore the fact that Dems have done a complete 180 on illegal immigration and these policies were in place under Obama as well. AND trump has put some legislation into place to keep families together during the deportation process.

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

If their choice is “stay in a place where your kids are getting murderers” , I think we can make our choice better than “come here and get your kids taken away from you”.

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
I have no fear of the possibilty I’m wrong on some of the things I feel. Being wrong on Dakka isn’t something I’ll lose sleep over. I’ve made my feelings known. Alot of you disagree. Some appear to think I’m the problem. So be it. I’ll continue to take action in the ways I feel is best for myself and my country. Maybe I’m just the guy on the beach screaming at the approaching hurricane. An exercise in futility. But I’ll take that over compromise.

And yea, I guess I’m an a-hole for not shedding tears over the children. I feel bad about it, but don’t tell me I’m somehow endorsing it because I’m voting third party.

I've screamed in the middle of a hurricane. Does that count?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Some polls have shown that Orientals are starting to flip at an increasing rate from voting primarily Democratic. Obviously Orientals don't make up a huge demographic, but then again they may not be alone.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

I don't think that's gonna matter. Whatever ball has started rolling, other countries in North and South America don't feel far enough away.

In other news, it would appear a summit is fast approaching: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/28/donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin-to-hold-summit-helsinki-in-july
Expected outcomes? Desired outcomes?

 SkavenLord wrote:
In other news, it would appear a summit is fast approaching: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/28/donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin-to-hold-summit-helsinki-in-july
Expected outcomes? Desired outcomes?

Yeah, *that* makes me feel a lot better. Oh, and North Korea has apparently started upgrading one of it's nuclear facilities.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/28/north-korea-upgrades-nuclear-research-facility-despite-trump-kim-summit-satellite-images-show/741015002/

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

Same here. I hope you are wrong, but I don't think you are.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/06/27/milo-wants-vigilantes-start-killing-journalists-and-hes-not-being-ironic

Milo "child loving is okay" Yiannopoulos stated just yesterday:

If journalists keep lying, deceiving and manipulating the public, then they will reap the same hatred they are sowing against Trump and his voters. “Truthfully I take no pleasure in the prospect; I’d rather beat you in a debate hall than a wrestling ring. But you did this to yourselves, and you deserve what’s coming.”

And now a shooting at the Capital Gazette in Anapolis two days later. gak is coming to a head.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Some polls have shown that Orientals are starting to flip at an increasing rate from voting primarily Democratic. Obviously Orientals don't make up a huge demographic, but then again they may not be alone.

Asians. Orientals are rugs. What decade are you from?

 SkavenLord wrote:
In other news, it would appear a summit is fast approaching: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/28/donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin-to-hold-summit-helsinki-in-july
Expected outcomes? Desired outcomes?

I expect the Ukrainians to be the real winners of this summit


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 BaronIveagh wrote:

 SkavenLord wrote:
In other news, it would appear a summit is fast approaching: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/28/donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin-to-hold-summit-helsinki-in-july
Expected outcomes? Desired outcomes?

Yeah, *that* makes me feel a lot better. Oh, and North Korea has apparently started upgrading one of it's nuclear facilities.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/28/north-korea-upgrades-nuclear-research-facility-despite-trump-kim-summit-satellite-images-show/741015002/

Noooooooo, say it ain't true, Trump looked him deep in the eyes and saw Kim was a good man and we could all sleep soundly again! How could this have so incredibly unexpectedly not have worked!

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Hate ot burst your bubble, but Generation Z is turning out to be the most conservative generation in decades.

As the Democrats keep moving to the left, they will alienate those center left democrats they count on to win elections ala PA, MI, WI.

 Supertony51 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Hate ot burst your bubble, but Generation Z is turning out to be the most conservative generation in decades.

As the Democrats keep moving to the left, they will alienate those center left democrats they count on to win elections ala PA, MI, WI.

See I looked that up, and you aren't really telling the whole truth there buddy

Gen Z are idiot middle schoolers who seig heil to be ironic. I do not hold any stock in polls that claim to determine the leanings of 14-year-old children.

 Verviedi wrote:
Gen Z are idiot middle schoolers who seig heil to be ironic. I do not hold any stock in polls that claim to determine the leanings of 14-year-old children.

Pretty much, Gen Z is just starting to become adults, posting frog memes online doesnt make them conservative

Though they might be more fiscally conservative, almost have to be considering how the baby boomer generation is pretty much destroying everything for Gen x, millenials and gen z.

We should also remember the everpresent “conservative =/= Republican” argument.

I’m pretty conservative in many ways, registered Indepentent, and frequently vote Democrat.

Looking at voter registrations and exit polls for the folks born after the mid-90s says a lot more about surveys asking the if they self identify as conservative or liberal.

 d-usa wrote:
We should also remember the everpresent “conservative =/= Republican” argument.

I’m pretty conservative in many ways, registered Indepentent, and frequently vote Democrat.

Looking at voter registrations and exit polls for the folks born after the mid-90s says a lot more about surveys asking the if they self identify as conservative or liberal.

One thing SuperTony left out was the fact that gen Z believe heavily in things that are non-starters for the current GOP, making it extremely unlikely that they would get any votes from gen Z

 feeder wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
I have no fear of the possibilty I’m wrong on some of the things I feel. Being wrong on Dakka isn’t something I’ll lose sleep over. I’ve made my feelings known. Alot of you disagree. Some appear to think I’m the problem. So be it. I’ll continue to take action in the ways I feel is best for myself and my country. Maybe I’m just the guy on the beach screaming at the approaching hurricane. An exercise in futility. But I’ll take that over compromise.

So do you actually have any evidence for your position to dispute the evidence that you are wrong, or just stubborn determination not to admit that you're doing something wrong?

And yea, I guess I’m an a-hole for not shedding tears over the children. I feel bad about it, but don’t tell me I’m somehow endorsing it because I’m voting third party.

I'll tell you that because it's the truth. You have three choices here:

1) Vote for the party putting children in cages.

2) Vote for the other party.

3) Stay home on election day (or vote third-party, which is exactly equivalent to staying home on election day) as a statement that you don't care enough to take even the most minimal action against putting children in cages.

Anything but a D vote is endorsement of Trump's policy of putting children in cages. If you're in agreement with that policy, fine, but don't pretend that your voting choices are anything but a passive endorsement of it.

I have no problem with anything that is happening at the boarder in regards to children or families. Unwanted alien invaders will not be treated well. The process will likely be scary - hopefully scary enough to the point they wont try to do it again...(they will try again). Lets get real here...no one is even getting hurt (and anyone that does - it's their fault). Call me an A-Hole but I really don't care - every single parent knows what they are getting into attempting to come here illegally. It is entirely on the criminal here.

"but the kids - they are crying"
Had a 2 kids crying in the new Jurassic park Movie I watched over the weekend. It ruined the whole experience for me. Anyways - sometimes kids cry even when they are at a movie about freaking dinosaurs. Kids cry...It's not the end of the world.

Also lets completely ignore the fact that Dems have done a complete 180 on illegal immigration and these policies were in place under Obama as well. AND trump has put some legislation into place to keep families together during the deportation process.

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

Not to mention the oft repeated lie that this is a continuation of an Obama policy?

 Ustrello wrote:

 Supertony51 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Hate ot burst your bubble, but Generation Z is turning out to be the most conservative generation in decades.

As the Democrats keep moving to the left, they will alienate those center left democrats they count on to win elections ala PA, MI, WI.

See I looked that up, and you aren't really telling the whole truth there buddy

Granted this is a OP-ED, the information referenced is valid

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#60f0f4ac7878




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 Ustrello wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We should also remember the everpresent “conservative =/= Republican” argument.

I’m pretty conservative in many ways, registered Indepentent, and frequently vote Democrat.

Looking at voter registrations and exit polls for the folks born after the mid-90s says a lot more about surveys asking the if they self identify as conservative or liberal.

One thing SuperTony left out was the fact that gen Z believe heavily in things that are non-starters for the current GOP, making it extremely unlikely that they would get any votes from gen Z

From what ive read, GEN Z is both socially and fiscally more conservative.

Besides, things like Gay marriage, aren't a big issue for mainstream conservatives.

 Supertony51 wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

 Supertony51 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Hate ot burst your bubble, but Generation Z is turning out to be the most conservative generation in decades.

As the Democrats keep moving to the left, they will alienate those center left democrats they count on to win elections ala PA, MI, WI.

See I looked that up, and you aren't really telling the whole truth there buddy

Granted this is a OP-ED, the information referenced is valid

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#60f0f4ac7878




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 Ustrello wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We should also remember the everpresent “conservative =/= Republican” argument.

I’m pretty conservative in many ways, registered Indepentent, and frequently vote Democrat.

Looking at voter registrations and exit polls for the folks born after the mid-90s says a lot more about surveys asking the if they self identify as conservative or liberal.

One thing SuperTony left out was the fact that gen Z believe heavily in things that are non-starters for the current GOP, making it extremely unlikely that they would get any votes from gen Z

From what ive read, GEN Z is both socially and fiscally more conservative.

Besides, things like Gay marriage, aren't a big issue for mainstream conservatives.

Still wrong there, or is the GOP all of a sudden in favor of pot legalization, and gun control? Also yes gay marriage is still a big issue for republican voters since they are trying to pass laws to limit it in one form or another as seen by the recent supreme court ruling and the crop of anti-gay signage etc.

 Ustrello wrote:

 Supertony51 wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

 Supertony51 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 feeder wrote:

Are you aware that this automatic detention policy has been applied to families that attempted to enter the country by legal asylum means? Not all families effected by this new Trump admin policy are border-jumpers.

You know I keep telling them that, but all we hear us 'But, Illegals!'

*sigh*

I've had this nagging feeling all day that I should get on the first plane to anywhere as something has just gone sideways spectacularly and minimum safe distance is, about, say, Europe. It's just a nagging feeling, and it might be nothing, but I think it's something. The last time I had this feeling it was the kickoff of the Syrian civil war, so that should give you an idea of how bad whatever this is, is.

End of the day Republican supporters are a minority of the population and a shrinking demographic. It will get better.

Hate ot burst your bubble, but Generation Z is turning out to be the most conservative generation in decades.

As the Democrats keep moving to the left, they will alienate those center left democrats they count on to win elections ala PA, MI, WI.

See I looked that up, and you aren't really telling the whole truth there buddy

Granted this is a OP-ED, the information referenced is valid

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#60f0f4ac7878




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 Ustrello wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
We should also remember the everpresent “conservative =/= Republican” argument.

I’m pretty conservative in many ways, registered Indepentent, and frequently vote Democrat.

Looking at voter registrations and exit polls for the folks born after the mid-90s says a lot more about surveys asking the if they self identify as conservative or liberal.

One thing SuperTony left out was the fact that gen Z believe heavily in things that are non-starters for the current GOP, making it extremely unlikely that they would get any votes from gen Z

From what ive read, GEN Z is both socially and fiscally more conservative.

Besides, things like Gay marriage, aren't a big issue for mainstream conservatives.

Still wrong there, or is the GOP all of a sudden in favor of pot legalization, and gun control? Also yes gay marriage is still a big issue for republican voters since they are trying to pass laws to limit it in one form or another as seen by the recent supreme court ruling and the crop of anti-gay signage etc.

I can't speak for the GOP or all conservatives, but most conservatives I know (18-30), myself included, take a more libertarian approach regarding Pot, and gay marriage. furthermore every study I've seen, on issues important to Gen Zer's, show maintaining gun rights as a top 5 issue. From everything I've read, Gen Z certainly isn't in favor of additional gun control.


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Heres another study, the info is analyzed by a conservative organization, but from what I can tell, the survey data is solid.

https://hispanicheritage.org/50000-generation-z-high-school-students-identify-republican/

Most of my friends identify 50% discounts on GW merch as a top 5 issue, so clearly there is some major political capital to be made there.

 feeder wrote:
Most of my friends identify 50% discounts on GW merch as a top 5 issue, so clearly there is some major political capital to be made there.

Hey, they are being frugal right lol

 feeder wrote:

 Mrs. Esterhouse wrote:
Again, criticism of one party is not defense of the other. I said nothing good about the GOP. But ok then. You want to dismiss my opinion as “shallow and wanting to be deep”, I will leave this discussion so you Ivy League philosophers can continue arguing about who’s better than who.

To be clear, I am not criticizing your opinion as shallow.

"Both sides are equally bad" arguments were pretty inane in 2016 but in the middle of 2018 they are just laugh out loud oblivious. If you want to argue you don't like brussel sprouts so it doesn't matter if brussel sprouts or cyanide are served, then expect people to point out that's an inane comparison because, well, it is.




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 cuda1179 wrote:
Some polls have shown that Orientals are starting to flip at an increasing rate from voting primarily Democratic. Obviously Orientals don't make up a huge demographic, but then again they may not be alone.

I'm not saying you're a racist, but that's an exceedingly depreciated phrase that makes what you said offensive-bordering-on-racist.

You want "Asians", not "Orientals".

In other news, it would appear a summit is fast approaching: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/28/donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin-to-hold-summit-helsinki-in-july
Expected outcomes? Desired outcomes?