Elbows wrote:The BMP and vehicles similar to it are armed enough to support an infantry advance, but are not intended to "attack" armour, or heavily defended installations. Just some
MG's and autocannons to put some enemy heads down, tackle some bunkers and generally assist in a light infantry action. Many have defensive anti-tank weapons which can be used in a pinch, but they're not going out and hunting down enemy armour. It's more of a "oh gak, a tank appeared!" kind of thing.
A BMP approaching might not be a threat to a tank, but to an entrenched infantry unit, or a light reconnaissance vehicle, a couple of sandbag bunkers, etc....the BMP is a threat.
Something like a Rhino is more about moving faster than walking, and carrying extra ammo, water, and food with you in the process...and if it stops some small arms fire or shrapnel? Bonus. Two entirely different concepts. Hence why the Rhino does precisely what it does. Does it have a place on the
40K tabletop? Not terribly, no. It would have realistically dropped its marines off half a kilometer behind the engagement, but it's a cool model kit and is oddly survivable in the game.
Agreed but marines are meant to be independent try telling the marine that a tank appearing is ok the preds will deal with it. What preds? oh those ones that are supprting the advance and are vastly outnumbered by the enemy.
I get what your saying but the enemy is going to deploy there
AT all over the place, there not going to deploy it specifically to counter the tank threat.
I.E. Oh look a rh1n0 and all we have is this
AT missile should we shoot?
Nah lets wait till those guys in really tough armour with exploding bullets get out
then we'll shoot, because you know missiles cost money , and we don't.
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=Angel= wrote:Jazzpot1707 wrote:
I think this is more
GW not knowing much about the military.
From what i have read (though anyone with any experience please correct me) you dont want to fight in an IFV. You look like a tank, you shoot almost like a tank but you have nowhere near the armour and when they shoot you there going to treat you like a tank.
Guard deployment usually means that if the enemy have the
AT to trouble the chimera's front, there will be a battletank somewhere near you to draw fire. Enemy gunners will be trying to stop the battlecannons, siege guns and 11 barrels of hell. Any
AT they waste one the chimera is a bonus- the Russes and holy Baneblades will be that more survivable.
If the guard are deploying on such a small scale that an armoured platoon is heading in unsupported, its likely the enemy don't have long range antitank.
The marines don't deploy with the guard there independent. The marines would deploy like a barely supported armoured platoon. (what 10 Rh1nos, 3-5 preds, a few vinds. and whrilwinds if there lucky a landraider or 2)
I agree that you will shoot at the biggest threat but when the only threat is an IFV (as it was in iraq) or a poorly armoured APC (one that could be holed by a H.bolter or an autocannon which wont make a dent in a pred.)
You will shoot.
This all says to me it doesn't matter if you can get to the battlefield but if you can't survive that initial salvo without losing 1K of battlefield experience your a poor
transport
To be fair neither fit the marines bill. That's why i said they use 100 instead of 10
They have the capacity just change everything 1 company to 1
legion company (1000 marines i think on average)
My point is there enemys know about the marine is spread all over the propaganda
ETC.
so why wouldn't they shoot those guys in there paper armour vehicle that shoot EXPLODING BOLTS and deal with the armoured threat that really couldn't deal with A simple guided
missile team (no explosive round) later.
